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Route Lhassa (Tibet)-Katmandou
by Ldlandru · 2005-08-26 · 29 replies
ok salut à tous... Je ne suis pas du style à planifier mes voyages mais là... il faut un minimum. J'aurai aimé avoir quelques renseignements sur les possibilités qui s'offrent à moi afin que je ne reste pas bloqué à Lathse... En fait, nous seront en couple et nous aimerions ne pas avoir à jouer les américains en 4x4 aprés la fin des transport "public" à Lathse. Si jamais un de vous a déjà effectuer la route de l'amitié avec des moyens de transport similaires, nous serions heureux qu'il nous fasse part de son expérience. Merci d'avance. ps: des renseignements sur l'entrée au Tibet (Golmud ou chengdu) son aussi les bienvenus. ciao
Combien sommes-nous à préparer un tour du monde?
by Mpolo57 · 2005-07-11 · 443 replies
Bonjour à Tous,

Comme nombreux d’entre vous ici, je prépare un Tour du Monde, en lisant les différents forums, je constate que nous sommes vraiment beaucoup à partir dans les 12 prochains mois, alors ce serait sympa de recenser tous les projets de tour du monde en préparation, en donnant quelques infos,

Je me lance :

Dates de départ...................................env 15 janvier 2006 Nombres de mois, années....................env 2 ans En solo, duo, voir plus ........................solo Continent par ordre de passage ..........Asie, Océanie, Amérique du Sud et Centrale, Afrique Premier pays ......................................Inde Dernier pays ......................................Israel Nombre de vols prévus ......................entre 12 et 20 Site Web de votre tour .......................oui en construction

Et le LIEU incontournable de votre tour : ( si vous arrivez à répondre )

Voila pour moi, j’attend vos merveilleux projets ....

Mpolo57

« Il arriva à la croisée de 2 chemins, et là il décida d’aller là où il n’allait pas «
Éthiopie
by Maesjl · 2005-02-15 · 19 replies
Rentrant d’Ethiopie, où je vais à peu près deux fois par an depuis six ans, je ne résiste pas à l’envie de partager mon enthousiasme.

D’abord, il faut savoir qu’il s’agit d’une « République Fédérale » et que ce nom n’est pas usurpé. En effet, ce sont des pays bien différents. En ne prenant que les quatre points cardinaux, on a :

LE NORD : le berceau du christianisme en Afrique. C’est le pays des monuments (églises enterrées de Lalibela, églises troglodytes vers Chelekot, monastères dans les îles du lac Tana, Axum la cité antique avec ses tombeaux, stèles, l’enceinte royale, Gondar avec le Campement Impérial) plus le Nil Bleu, les montagnes du Simien. Les amateurs d’histoire et de vieilles pierres se régaleront. Il faut ajouter les somptueuses fêtes de Noël et du Jour de l’An (calendrier julien) et, bien sûr, Timkat.

L’OUEST : Une nature exubérante, une succession de panorama superbes et, au bout du chemin, deux ethnies aux rites séculaires :les Nuer et les Anuak.

Installés vers Gog et le lac Tatta, les Anuak sont des agriculteurs sédentaires. Leurs villages sont disséminés dans la forêt. Passer d'un village à l'autre, sous des arbres immenses, découvrir leurs cases, leur mode de vie, est un réel plaisir. Un système de type féodal, toujours en vigueur, régit leur existence.

On découvre les Nuer dans les environs d’Itang. Ces hommes et femmes aux allures élancées sont immenses. Ils vivent dans des zones inondables et doivent donc déplacer leurs cases à chaque période de crues. Ils sont avant tout éleveurs, le soin qu'ils apportent aux troupeaux rythme leurs activités quotidiennes. Leurs traditions, leurs rites, dont celui de l'initiation des jeunes hommes, restent aussi vivants que ceux des Anuak.

Gambela sert de base pour partir à la découverte de ces peuples. Le retour par Bedele permet d'approcher la région de Kafa, ses plantations de café, ses forêts immenses puis, en passant par Jimma, de traverser le pays Gouragué.

L’EST : deux grandes directions : la dépression du Danakil (le site de Lucy) et Harar.

Aller vers le Danakil, c’est emprunter la très belle route Addis-Kombolcha. C’est ensuite bifurquer pour aller vers la Mer Rouge par une des routes les plus spectaculaires d’Ethiopie. C’est aussi visiter quelques marchés dont (le lundi) celui de Bati (41 km. de Kombolcha) le plus important d’Ethiopie après le « Merkato » d’Addis, lieu de rencontre des Afars, Oromos, Amaras, … C’est enfin le désert du Danakil et les fouilles de Hadar (3-4 millions d’années).

Sur le retour, en empruntant la route qui suit la vallée de l’Awash, on peut rejoindre la deuxième direction.

Allant vers Harar, on rencontre le parc national d’Awash, d’une superficie de 827 km.2, c’est le plus ancien et le mieux entretenu d’Ethiopie. Autrefois territoire de chasse de l’Empereur Hailé Sélassié, il abrite près de 50 espèces de mammifères (oryx, petits et grands koudou, bubales, gazelles…).

Puis la route d’Awash à Harar longe d’abord la voie de chemin de fer. A partir de Mieso, elle grimpe dans la montagne et suit pratiquement les crêtes, découvrant de magnifiques panoramas.

Flâner dans Harar, la quatrième ville sainte de l'Islam, c'est découvrir les maisons harari, leur cour intérieure, leur petit jardin et l'accueil de leurs habitants. Au détour d'une ruelle : la maison de Rimbaud, un peu plus loin : un marché très coloré et très achalandé. Cette ville mérite, à elle seule, quelques jours de visite.

Vous êtes dans le pays des Afars. Ils vivent dans une région désertique où la température peut atteindre 50 °. C’est l'un des déserts les plus inhospitaliers mais aussi des plus étranges : lacs saumâtres, eau sulfureuse, laves incandescentes, fumerolles, …

Dans cet environnement les Afars essaient de survivre avec leurs chameaux et leurs troupeaux, en perpétuelle recherche d'eau, de nourriture, de pâturages.

Tous se parent avec soin, les hommes portent le"gilé", impressionnant grand couteau courbe. Les femmes portent des coiffures complexes, tressées et décorées de perles multicolores ainsi que des vêtements chamarrés.

LE SUD : coupé en deux par la vallée du Rift, la région des grands lacs.

A l’est, touchant la Somalie, au sud d’Harar, l’Ogaden ressemble à l’image que certains ont de l’Ethiopie : un désert, le pays des grandes famines.

Mais entre cette région et le Rift, la route qui va vers le Kenya traverse la partie probablement la plus riche d’Ethiopie. En passant et selon la saison, on peut y acheter à peu près tous les fruits locaux (ananas, mangues, papayes, bananes, pastèques, …), des légumes et, bien entendu le célèbre café de Sidamo (origine du Moka).

A environ 150 km., entre la route principale et l’Ogaden, les montagnes de Bale sont le paradis des ornithologues. On y trouve des centaines d’espèces différentes dont certaines n’existent nulle part ailleurs.

A l’ouest, c’est principalement la vallée de l’Omo, qui alimente le lac Turkana. Christian Bader, dans « Les Guerriers nus », donne une bonne idée de cette région :

« Il est en Afrique une région presque aussi vaste que la France que les grandes villes et vieilles civilisations du continent n'ont fait qu'effleurer, que les expéditions dépêchées par les colonisateurs européens se sont contentées de traverser, et que les différents Etats dont elle relève aujourd'hui ne gouvernent encore que de loin. Cette région, dont les cartes les plus récentes n'offrent pour l'instant qu'une couverture approximative, comprend le sud-est du Soudan, le nord-est de l'Ouganda, le nord-ouest du Kenya et le sud-ouest de l'Ethiopie.

Dans ces lointains confins, où le temps semble s'être arrêté, coexistent près d'une quarantaine de groupes ethniques, certains fort nombreux, d'autres réduits à quelques familles, certains établis sur d'immenses territoires où ils nomadisent avec leurs troupeaux, d'autres confinés dans quelque vallée isolée où ils subsistent de chasse et d'agriculture sur brûlis. C'est sans aucun doute dans le sud-ouest de l'Ethiopie que se trouve l'une des plus prodigieuse concentration de ces peuples qui, à l'aube du XXIe siècle, continuent de donner l'impression de surgir tout droit des premiers matins du monde. »

Qu’ajouter à cela sinon que c’est la région dont je suis tombé amoureux, que parmi ces peuples (Karo, Dassanecht, Konso, Mursi, etc.) les Hamer m’ont séduit, que c’est chez eux que j’ai ma « maison » et qu’il ne faut pas me demander trop d’objectivité à leur sujet.

Bien sûr, je suis prêt à partager mes petites connaissances avec tous ceux qui envisagent de partir dans ce pays
Article sur le pseudo humanitaire
by Philobate · 2004-08-10 · 222 replies
Bonjour

Ce poste va déranger, j'en suis sûr ... Je ne suis pas le créateur de l'article et je l'ai trouvé sur un autre site internet de voyage (ouais, je sais, j'ai fait une infidélité à VF)...

Un article du journal "La Croix":

"La truelle et le crayon" par Odon Vallet

Avec l’été voici le retour des voyages humanitaires, versions ethnologiques des safaris photos. En un mois, des jeunes croient pouvoir découvrir et secourir des populations inconnues et des civilisations ignorées. Ils vont aider des gens dont ils ne parlent pas la langue et méconnaissent les mœurs. Les résultats sont consternants. Tel groupe d’étudiants construit une école au Vietnam alors que pas un ne sait manier la truelle : les murs ne tiennent pas debout. Tel autre va lutter contre le sida en Afrique avec des affichettes représentant des phallus géants : il scandalise la population. Tel autre encore fait du soutien scolaire au Togo pendant les vacances d’été : les lycéens togolais étant aux champs pour gagner un peu d’argent, les tuteurs français ne soutiennent pas grand monde. Et avec le prix d’un seul billet d’avion aller retour Paris – Lomé, on peut faire vivre quatre élèves africains pendant un an. Certains de ces jeunes amènent du matériel scolaire inutile ou mal adapté qu’il aurait été moins coûteux d’acheter sur place. D’autres offrent des cédéroms à des écoles qui n’ont même pas l’électricité. Voici trente ans, un ministre français voulait sauver l’Afrique en parachutant des ordinateurs dans la brousse. Mais des petits écoliers africains n’ont toujours pas de quoi acheter des cahiers et des crayons au bazar du coin. Les organismes sérieux, comme la Délégation catholique à la coopération, se méfient de cette charité estivale et proposent aux jeunes de vraies missions d’un ou deux ans précédés d’une solide formation. Nombre de congrégations religieuses assaillies de demandes aussi brouillonnes que généreuses, ne savent plus quoi répondre. Il serait dommage de décevoir l’altruisme des jeunes, mais il serait tout aussi regrettable de gaspiller leurs ardeurs par des efforts inutiles et de dilapider leur enthousiasme par des gestes inefficaces. Il faudra donc inventer de nouvelles formes de solidarité conciliant spiritualité, générosité, efficacité. Ce sera long et difficile si l’on en juge par le déclin de la persévérance et la montée de l’éphémère. Il y a cent ans, un missionnaire partait pour sa vie entière dans une contrée où l’attendait sa tombe. Il y a vingt ans, un coopérant partait vers un pays où il enseignait durant deux années scolaires. Aujourd’hui des étudiants partent pour un mois, soit la moitié de leurs vacances. Il faudra renverser la vapeur en se souvenant qu’un mois, c’était la durée d’un Paris – Saigon à l’époque des steamers et d’un Paris – Dakar au temps des marines à voiles."

Inutile de vous dire que je suis d'accord avec l'article ...

Philo
Vivre sur un bateau
by Grobi · 2004-04-25 · 63 replies
Bonjour a tous,

Ce qui me remplit le coeur de joie, c'est de voyager. C'est etonnant sur vf, hein???

Maintenant quand j'y reflechis un peu, je vois bien d'autres choses qui me font plaisir, mais si on me demande qu'est ce que j'ai envie faire dans ma vie, il y a que "voyage" qui me vient a l'esprit.

C'est grave? C'est bien ici qu'il faut en parler, hein ???

Je suis fou ou bien???🤪😉

La question qui vient alors c'est celle la: Vous en avez peut etre vu des meilleures, mais c'est vraiment ma question personnelle que je me pose a moi meme...

Personnellement.

La question donc, celle qui vient ensuite, la voici:

Comment on fait quand on a envie d'aller partout?😕 C'est con a dire mais j'en suis la.

Si y a quelqu'un qui voit quelque chose a dire, j'ecoute... Ouvert a toute suggestion!!!

Cependant voila ce qui me trotte dans la tete depuis quelque mois et qui m'est apparu comme une qasi-necessite cet apres midi lors d'une ballade en foret. J'habite pres d'un fleuve, ca peu paraitre bete comme ca mais sur un fleuve y a des bateaux qui remontent et des fleuves y en a partout. Hier je bouquinais quelque chose sur l'Alaska et je me suis rendu compte qu'il y a quelques milliers de kilometres ou la cote n'est accessible que par bateau ou hydravion.

Je ne veux pas parler de voyage en hydravion, mais bien en bateau...

Je m'appercois de plus en plus des avantages immenses: Pas d'avion cher qui pollue L'acces (je me demande d'ailleurs dans quelles mesures???) a la plupart des pays (peut etre pas le tibet), et a l'interieur des terres graces aux reseaux fluviales! Pas de loyers(ou du moins que du gardiennage) et le choix (en temps et en lieu) de rester ou pas. La possibilite d'explorer les pays plus a l'interieur des terres avec un point fixe quand meme! Tu peux passer ta vie en voyage et avoir quelques affaires a toi. (En effet apres quatre ans ou ma vie tient dans un sac a dos, il y a toujours plein de choses que tu abandonnes (musique, livre, outils, etc...)) Et surtout le plaisir (et ca je me l'imagine deja si bien que ca fait battre mon p'tit coeur version chiot de six semaines), le plaisir, donc, que dis je ? La jouissance de se reveiller apres quelques semaines ou quelques mois a decouvrir un pays et de te dire qu'est ce que je fais aujourd'hui???

Tiens et si je mettais les voiles pour aller voir ce qui se passe chez le voisin???

Je vais me prendre un petit dej au cafe des pecheurs (qui doit avoir un equivalent dans a peu pres toutes les langues d'ailleurs, excepte le bolivien 😕, a bon entendeur salop) dire au revoir aux potes du port et je largue les ammarres (c'est surement pas la bonne orthographe, faudrait peut etre que je commence par ca😊)

Qu'est ce qu'il y a un peu plus loin?😠

ouhhh les arbres y sont diffrerents!🙂

ouhhh la bas y a plus d'arbres!😮

Ouhh dans le coin ca a l'air marecageux!!! Je me demande a quoi ca ressemble a l'interieur???

Ouhhh Mais dis donc, dis donc, elle a l'air mignonne cette riviere qu'est ce tu penses de passer une nuit ou deux avec nos potes les moustiques???😏

Bref excusez les elucubrations de fin de semaines. La question, la vraie c'est celle-ci:😐

Est ce que certains d'entre vous on fait leur voyage ou plutot on decide de vivre sur un bateau pour avoir leur dose???

Pourriez vous m'ouvrir les yeux, il y a surement des defauts auxquels je n'ai pas pense.😠

Sinon ca coute combien un vingt metres???
Ah les préjugés!
by Ouais · 2004-03-24 · 170 replies
Qui n'a jamais entendu des préjugés grotesques et qui vous ont fait marrer!!!!!!!!!!!

Voici quelques petits préjugés donc j'ai eu l'honneur d'entendre: Mais au burkina ils ont de l'electricité? Ils doivent tous dormir dans des huttes en bois! En syrie mais ils vont tous te fusillier. Mais il n'y a pas de routes au maroc tu vas te perdre!

Si vous avez eu echos de quelques prejugés n'hesitez pas a les mettre !!
Kyrgyzstan: Practical Information 2026
by Attila · 2026-07-04 · 24 replies
Recent information about this country is scarce, so I’m starting this post in addition to my travel journal to help fill the gap.

- Which airline from Europe?

Turkish Airlines seems like an excellent option. The price is very reasonable (just over 500 €), the layover isn’t too long, the in-flight comfort is decent (great movie selection), and the planes are modern. Plus, the price automatically includes 30 kilos of luggage, which is perfect for campers.

The downside: the outrageous prices at Istanbul Airport.

- Bishkek Airport

The airport is under full reconstruction. It’s chaotic. There are SIM card vendors upon arrival, but no currency exchange or ATMs in the baggage claim area. You’ll find those in the departures section, which means you have to exit and re-enter under the current setup.

Personally, I pre-booked a VTC with my hotel for the transfer to the city. (Prices vary depending on the hotel’s standard—1200 soms for mine.)

There are taxis and a bus available.

- Entry Requirements

No visa is required for French citizens for stays of up to 30 days.

- Currency

The currency is the som, and the conversion is easy—just divide by 100...

You can get soms by exchanging euros (dollars are useless) or by withdrawing from an ATM. Some ATMs charge fees. Those from Mbank and Optimabank are fee-free.

The maximum withdrawal is usually 20,000 soms.

Bills come in 5000, 1000, 500, 200, 100, 50, and 20 soms.

Coins: 10, 5, 3, and 1 som.

- Paying

Card payments are accepted in supermarkets like Globus, some restaurants, gas stations of major chains (Bishkek Petroleum, Partner Neft, Red Petroleum), some hotels, national park entrances, tolls, etc.

But it doesn’t always work.

So always carry cash with you!

If the card works, great—otherwise, it’s back to the old days of wads of bills.

- Cost of Living

It’s really cheap (gas, affordable restaurants even at a decent standard, hotels, souvenirs, fruits, vegetables, water, bread...). For example, a lagman costs only 3.20 €, fixing a flat tire is 3.5 €, a full hour-long wash for a filthy 4x4 is 6 €, washing a big bag of laundry is 3 €, and a liter of 95-octane gas is 0.86 €...

On the pricier side: guesthouses and meals in guesthouses. The value for money is poor. I paid 40 € for a mediocre room with a very basic shared bathroom, while a double with AC, private bathroom, and fridge in a non-touristy hotel cost 20 €... Meals in guesthouses are the worst I’ve eaten and often the most expensive. Plus, they’re very light—don’t expect to fill up after a long day of hiking!

Car rentals are also quite expensive (70 $ per day for a RAV4 in my case).

In short, for two people, excluding accommodation and car rental, we spent an average of 45 € per day (groceries, restaurants, guesthouse dinners, souvenirs, paid activities, gas).

The trip cost us 2200 € per person all-inclusive for 3 weeks on the ground. Roughly 1/4 for the flight, 1/4 for the car, 1/4 for accommodation, and 1/4 for everything else.

- Getting Around

I’ve met cyclists, motorcyclists, people renting cars, those who drove their own vehicles from Europe, and others using public transport and taxis.

Personally, I chose to rent a car.

If you’re not planning long hikes or multi-day horse treks, it’s a great option for exploring the country.

Each car rental company has its own list of forbidden tracks. Make sure your planned route is allowed! Don’t think about ignoring this—vehicles are equipped with GPS trackers...

An international driver’s permit is required.

Police and speed cameras are everywhere, so it’s best to respect the signs (daytime running lights, seatbelts, 40-60 km/h in populated areas, 90 km/h on roads, zero tolerance for alcohol).

Locals have a unique driving style, and it can be dangerous on main roads (they overtake recklessly...). Like in Greece, South Africa, or Malta, a two-lane road is treated as a three-lane one. You pull over to let others pass or to let oncoming traffic overtake.

Without a car (at least a pseudo-4x4), you won’t be able to go everywhere. This country is a nature destination, but nature isn’t always accessible by public transport.

If a spot is near a road, great—the bus will get you almost to the door. Otherwise, you’ll need to hire an agency or take a taxi.

Cyclists will face steep climbs and dust. I’d advise avoiding main roads as much as possible—traffic isn’t on your side...

Motorcyclists will also eat a lot of dust and should research gas stations along their route (this advice also applies to vehicles running on 95-octane).

There’s a 95-octane pump in Kazarman and Gulcha.

Bikes and motorcycles have an advantage over cars, even 4x4s, as they can access some very remote tracks that other vehicles can’t (hikers and horses can obviously take them too!).

Be careful: some areas require a permit (border zones). Research this well in advance—the formalities don’t take an hour or even a day!

Be warned: Google Maps is completely unreliable (it shows roads that don’t exist, routes you through difficult tracks instead of paved roads, etc.). It’s essential to download Maps.me in advance. This app is much more reliable for this country, works offline, and is handy for hiking navigation.

A reminder: horseback riding is like cycling... If you’re not used to it or naturally padded in the right places, your backside will suffer in no time!

Think carefully before embarking on a multi-day trek!

Finally, this country is a kingdom of construction... The Chinese have taken over the market to improve truck circulation and are paving everywhere. (Good news: the Kazarman-Osh section via the tunnel is finally open in summer, even if the road isn’t quite finished.)

- Eating

I had prejudices about Kyrgyz food.

I was both wrong and right.

Supermarkets don’t offer much that’s appealing for picnics. It’s cheap, filling food, full of junk, and not gourmet. If you follow Yuka, I think you’ll be on a diet the whole trip. Bringing some pâté, sausages, or freeze-dried meals for certain nights is a good idea...

Guesthouse dinners consist of the eternal cucumber-tomato salad, a soup, and a light noodle or rice dish where you’ll be searching for the meat... Usually tough and unidentifiable. Beef? The bread is stale, and there’s no dessert or fruit.

Breakfasts always revolve around eggs or porridge... The homemade jam is usually good.

Tea is the number one drink, followed by kompot (a fruit-based drink), Coke, and Fanta.

If you want real coffee, bring your own—it’s very rare.

On the other hand, you eat well in restaurants. Lagman (homemade noodles, vegetables, spices, and usually beef), crispy eggplant, kuurdak (a kind of lamb stew with potatoes), kebabs, plov (pilaf rice with onions, carrots, and meat), and rainbow trout... For dessert? Nada!

And alcohol?

It’s available in all Globus stores: beer, wine, spirits, and you can consume your purchases in some guesthouses (depending on the owner’s religious tolerance). It’s also available in some restaurants (Bishkek, Karakol, Osh...).

The deadly specialty?

White fermented milk balls called kurut. If you think a raw-milk camembert is strong, steer clear! This is more like an old, dry, spicy goat cheese.

- Accommodation

In remote areas, it’s better to check availability on Booking a few days in advance rather than showing up last minute with high hopes.

Booking and Airbnb only offer a small portion of what’s available.

Not necessarily guesthouses, but mostly accommodations aimed at locals (business or leisure travel).

These places are generally more comfortable. There’s even some upscale options.

So it’s necessary to scour Google Maps or Yandex Maps... These accommodations are usually found on Instagram, and WhatsApp is handy for booking!

Prices are a bit of a lottery. So is the comfort. From 20 to 80 € for a double, usually with a private bathroom. (Average around 40 €). These rates are for mid-range options.

Otherwise, this country is a paradise for wild camping. In a camper van, rooftop tent, or ground tent... There are beautiful spots everywhere!

- Climate

I thought it would be quite cool/cold at altitude.

I packed too many warm clothes...

If you’re not doing high-altitude treks or sleeping in a tent, there’s no need to overload yourself with winter gear.

A good fleece, a windproof rain jacket, and technical base layers will be enough.

It only got really cold in the evenings at Song Kul Lake and Tash Rabat, and the yurts are equipped with thick blankets and a stove.

Elsewhere, temperatures ranged from 15 to 30 °C.

In short, I used the AC more than the heater! (It’s hard to drive with the windows open unless you want to be covered in dust in no time...)

- Communication

I bought an eSIM before the trip with a data plan for Kyrgyzstan (Beeline network). Perfect for communicating via WhatsApp right after landing, but this network isn’t the best in Kyrgyzstan.

We then got a physical SIM card with an unlimited one-month plan (less than 4 € including the SIM) at a Mega store downtown. This network is much better, and you get coverage in all cities and most villages. Usually in the mountain passes too.

To make yourself understood, it’s essential to download Google Translate with French, Kyrgyz, Russian, and English options.

Very useful for translating menus, signs, and communicating with locals.

Hosts and other tourism professionals will even pull out their phones to communicate with non-Russian speakers.

The police too...

- Religion

There’s a noticeable difference between the north and the southwest of the country.

In the north, it’s a bit like Albania. People are Muslim by culture but not really by religion.

In the southwest, radical Islam is growing. Mosques are more numerous and imposing. Men are more bearded, women more veiled.

For travelers, religion isn’t an issue except for the near-total absence of pork.

There’s Russian sausage, but reading the ingredient list, it’s more like a one-way ticket to cancer than an Auvergne dry sausage...



You can find the detailed account of the trip here.
À ceux qui font le tour du monde en 2012...
by Yoy · 2010-04-07 · 14 replies
Bonjour les AMI(ES)

Je m'appelle Yohann, j'ai 27 ans et je part faire le Tour du Monde en solo en 2012 et plus précisément pour MAI 2012.

Le premier pays visité les USA, suivi du Mexique, l'Amérique Centrale, l'Amérique du Sud avec l'Ile de Paque, l'Océanie, l'Asie et je fini par Israël et la Palestine.

Mon Tour du Monde a moi, se fera en deux années. J'ai actuellement économisé 4 800 euros et le but et d'arriver à 20 000 euros pour fin mai 2012.

Alors pour ceux qui partent decouvrir la planete en 2012, bé pourquoi pas se faire un topic preparation ou l'on pourrait se donner des conseils sur les billets TDM, sur les assurances, sur la météo, sur le sac. Bref s'entre aider sur toute l'organisation. Sur l'avancement de nos différents projets.

J'espère avoir des réponses de personne partant en 2012...

Cordialement Yohann
Dans 10 ans, la Thaïlande, vous la voyez comment?
by Notongting · 2010-01-01 · 264 replies
Ceux qui decouvrent la Thailande aujourd'hui en reviennent emerveilles..Ceux qui l'ont connus dans les annees 80 et 90 a l'epoque ou le portable et internet n'existaient pas ou presque, pourraient temoigner que c'etait quel que soit l'endroit ou on se trouvait un "vrai paradis"..Il est donc naturel que la nostalgie grandisse quand on voit dans quel sens et a quelle vitesse les choses evoluent.😕

Deja 2010🙁, et depuis les choses ont bien changes, que se soit dans les ghettos a touristes ou meme dans la Thailande profonde, celle que certains appellent a tord ou a raison la thailande authentique...

Mais dans 10 ou 20 ans, comment voyez vous la Thailande ??? comment sera t-elle ? ceux qui la decouvriront voudront-ils y retourner ?
Conseils pour trois semaine en Corée du Sud en septembre et octobre
by Galama · 2006-03-19 · 7 replies
B'jour tout le monde, je prépare un voyage de 3 semaines en Corée du sud pour septembre/octobre. Quelqu'un pourrait-il me renseigner sur les points suivants: la DMZ vaut-elle le coup? les "immanquables" à Séoul d'après vous? des plans pour passer quelques jours dans un temple bouddhiste? une idée de trek de quelques jours (en solitaire)? des avis, des conseils divers et variés? Merci 😉
Découvrir le monde, mais où?
by Maxouille · 2005-05-27 · 11 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Je viens de rentrer sur ce site...

En fait depuis très longtemps j'ai besoin de partir, de découvrir le monde et là je me lance, je me donne un an pour l'autre bout du monde... mais lequel???

J'aimerais découvrir une nouvelle culture, partir à l'aventure, seule mais je ne sais pas encore où aller pour assouvir mon rêve, tant de pays me parraissent magnifique...

En fait, j'hésite entre la Nouvelle Zélande, l'Argentine, le Canada, la Thailande et l'Afrique....

Pourriez vous me faire part de vos avis, vos expériences...

Je compte partir seule et vraiment à l'aventure ( et je sais que certains pays sont peut etre plus dangereux que d'autre )...

Bosser pendant un mois puis me ballader, rebosser etc... Dans le pays ou j'irais car je n'ai pas l'argent nécessaire pour me la couler douce pendant un an...

Merci pour toutes vos réponse et vos conseils
Societal Evolution
by Puma2A · 2026-02-20 · 90 replies
Hello everyone,

It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.

A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???

Not even a simple thank you!!!

From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????

Please forgive my little rant.

Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,

Puma2A



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Three weeks in Yunnan in October 2025
by Jeeaan · 2025-11-09 · 55 replies
We just spent three weeks in Yunnan. I’ve started writing up a travel journal about the trip.
Road Trip USA 2023 - Part 2
by Pinacoladada · 2025-10-23 · 138 replies
HIGHWAY 1

Highway 1 runs along the Pacific coast of California from Leggett in the north to Dana Point in the south. It's the longest state route in California, stretching 1,050 km.

It's famous for its breathtaking ocean views. That’s actually why it’s become such a popular route for road trips, with tons of attractions and points of interest all along the way.

After crossing the U.S. interior on our way out (see Road Trip USA 2023 - Part 1), we’re starting our return trip along this route from Leggett.

Videos are embedded throughout the summary. Please click on the image to start the video. To jump to a specific post, here are the appropriate links:

CALIFORNIA:

Scenic Overlooks on Route 1 Between Leggett and Fort Bragg The Pudding Creek Trestle Bridge in Fort Bragg Glass Beach - Fort Bragg Jenner Lookout Point - Highway 1 Goat Rock Beach - Sonoma Coast State Park - Jenner Point Reyes National Seashore - White House Pool Trail Point Reyes National Seashore - Limantour Beach Point Reyes National Seashore - Point Reyes Shipwreck Point Reyes National Seashore - Kehoe Beach Trail Point Reyes National Seashore - McClures Beach Trail Point Reyes National Seashore - Cypress Tree Tunnel Point Reyes National Seashore - Point Reyes Beach North Point Reyes National Seashore - Elephant Seals on Drakes Beach Point Reyes National Seashore - Point Reyes Beach South Point Reyes National Seashore – Elephant Seals Overlooks Point Reyes National Seashore - Chimney Rock Trail Point Reyes National Seashore - Point Reyes Lighthouse Trail Point Reyes National Seashore – Tule Elk Observation Point Bonita Lighthouse Trail - Sausalito Hawk Hill - Sausalito Battery Spencer Trail - Sausalito Rodeo Beach - Sausalito Point Cavallo - Golden Gate View - Sausalito Exploring Downtown Sausalito Visiting Sausalito’s Houseboats Crossing the Golden Gate Bridge - San Francisco Golden Gate Bridge Viewpoints - San Francisco Cruise to Alcatraz Island - San Francisco Visiting Alcatraz Island - San Francisco Civic Center - Downtown San Francisco Market Street & Yerba Buena Gardens - Downtown San Francisco Union Square & Financial District - Downtown San Francisco Fisherman's Wharf, Pier 39 & Embarcadero - San Francisco Sea Lion Observation - Pier 39 - San Francisco Lombard Street & Cable Car - Russian Hill - San Francisco Macondray Lane Historic District - Russian Hill - San Francisco Grace Cathedral & Huntington Park - Nob Hill - San Francisco Telegraph Hill - San Francisco Chinatown - San Francisco Alamo Square & Painted Ladies - Western Addition - San Francisco Palace of Fine Arts - Marina District - San Francisco Presidio of San Francisco California Coastal Trail - Lincoln Park - San Francisco California Palace of the Legion of Honor - Lincoln Park - San Francisco Sutro Baths - Lincoln Park - San Francisco Queen Wilhelmina Garden - Golden Gate Park - San Francisco Bison Paddock - Golden Gate Park - San Francisco Portals of the Past - Golden Gate Park - San Francisco Strawberry Hill - Golden Gate Park – San Francisco Prayerbook Cross & Robin Williams Meadow - Golden Gate Park - San Francisco Hidden Garden Steps & 16th Avenue Tiled Steps - San Francisco Grandview Park - San Francisco Hike - Twin Peaks Three Summits - San Francisco Longboarding Down Twin Peaks Blvd in San Francisco Haight-Ashbury - San Francisco Corona Heights Park - San Francisco Mission Dolores - San Francisco Mural Frescoes (Part 1) - Mission District - San Francisco Mural Frescoes (Part 2) - Mission District - San Francisco Devil's Slide Bunker - Pacifica Mavericks Beach - Half Moon Bay Martins Beach - Half Moon Bay Pigeon Point Lighthouse State Historic Park - Pescadero What to See in Santa Cruz Visiting Capitola What to See in Monterey Carmel-by-the-Sea Lovers Point Park - Pacific Grove Castle Rock, Hurricane Point & Little Sur River Viewpoints Pfeiffer Falls Trail Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park Vista Point & McWay Falls Highway 1 - Big Sur Viewpoints Salmon Creek Falls San Carpoforo Creek Trail Elephant Seal Vista Point - San Simeon San Simeon Pier Moonstone Beach Boardwalk Shipwreck - Estero Bluffs State Park Surfing Competition in Morro Bay Port San Luis Pier - San Luis Obispo Pismo Beach Monarch Butterfly Grove - Pismo State Beach Nojoqui Falls Park - Solvang Arroyo Hondo Vista Point Solvang, a Charming Danish Town in California Chumash Painted Cave - Santa Barbara Goleta San Marcos Rd & Cachuma Lake Vista Points - Santa Barbara Old Santa Barbara Mission Walking Tour of Santa Barbara’s Historic Downtown West Beach - Santa Barbara What to See in Ventura Paradise Falls - Wildwood Regional Park - Thousand Oaks Sandy Dune & El Matador State Beach - Malibu Point Dume Nature Reserve - Malibu Malibu Pier Road Trip in the Malibu Mountains Los Liones Trail - Santa Monica Santa Monica Pier Rodeo Drive - Beverly Hills Greystone Mansion - Beverly Hills Hollywood Walk of Fame - Los Angeles Griffith Observatory - Los Angeles Hollywood Forever Cemetery - Los Angeles What to See in Venice Beach Venice Beach Skatepark ShoreLine Aquatic Park - Long Beach Alamitos Beach - Long Beach Naples Island - Long Beach Crescent Bay Point Park & Helser Park Kiosk - Laguna Beach Shell Beach at Twin Points - Laguna Beach Prairie Dogs at Agra Vista Point Top Gun House & Oceanside Pier Annie's Canyon Trail - Solana Beach (Via North Rios Trailhead Loop) Old Town San Diego La Jolla Coastal Trail - San Diego Balboa Park - San Diego Pacific Beach - San Diego Mission Beach - San Diego Ocean Beach Tide Pools - San Diego Sunset Cliffs Natural Park - San Diego Tuna Harbor Park - San Diego Seaport Village & Embarcadero Marina Park - San Diego Gaslamp Quarter - Downtown San Diego Coronado Island - San Diego Dead Dolly Lane - Alpine Galleta Meadows Metal Sculptures - Borrego Springs What to See in Palm Springs Robolights - Palm Springs Andreas Canyon Trail - Indian Canyons - Palm Springs Palm Canyon Trail - Indian Canyons - Palm Springs West Fork Falls Trail - Indian Canyons - Palm Springs Tahquitz Canyon Loop Trail - Indian Canyons - Palm Springs Desert Christ Park - Yucca Valley Pioneertown Salvation Mountain - Niland Slab City - Niland
Langtang – Trekking in the Rain
by GeorgesOZ · 2025-09-28 · 102 replies
We did the Langtang trek (hike) from September 10th to 17th, with the first and last days being the trip from Kathmandu and back—so 6 days of actual walking. It’s a fairly well-known trek but certainly not as famous or crowded as those in the Annapurna or Everest regions, which is why we chose it.

In theory, it’s mandatory to have a guide for this trek. In reality, it seems there are ways to bypass the regulations: we met at least two people hiking without a guide—a South Korean, a New Zealander, and possibly also a couple of English women and an American couple, though we’re not sure if they had a guide.

The agency we booked with had told us it was an affordable trek for relatively older people in good shape—which is our case (I’m 72 myself). I have to say upfront that we found it quite challenging, maybe because we didn’t have good weather—it was the end of the monsoon season. To be clear, no matter your fitness level, I’d say doing this trek in the middle of the monsoon season would be suicidal.

Day 1 – Journey from Kathmandu to Syapru Besi

On Monday, September 8th, there had been violent protests in Kathmandu against the government, which had, among other things, blocked access to social media and been accused of nepotism and corruption. There were 19 deaths. The situation was very tense on the day of our departure, Wednesday the 10th. The agency warned us that public transport was very unreliable. So, we decided to take a jeep, at an additional cost of $100 ($160 minus what was already budgeted for the bus).

We left a little before 7 a.m. and it took us a good hour just to reach the outskirts of Kathmandu. Along the way, we saw several houses and vehicles set on fire by protesters.

The road to Syapru Besi is only 120 km, but it’s frankly awful. It’s always narrow, winds through endless mountains, and the shoulders range from bad to confusing to nonexistent. Several sections are just dirt tracks. We didn’t regret opting for the jeep, as we could stop several times at our convenience—if only to let Y (my Thai partner) throw up everything she had. She’d taken her usual motion sickness medication, but the constant turns, accelerations, and braking eventually made her terribly carsick.

In Nuwakot, we stopped for breakfast at a nice little restaurant, Jimbu. It was around 8:30 a.m., and we’d barely covered 60 km. The restaurant has a lovely garden overlooking the Trishuli Ganga, the river flowing down from Syapru Besi. First photo: the river in the bottom right corner, mist and clouds over the mountain on the other side.

An hour later, my second photo: the hills along the Trishuli Ganga. You can see the different crops—lush green rice paddies in the lower right and corn, already yellowed and likely harvested, in the foreground on the left. And of course, the mist and clouds through which you can glimpse the mountain on the other side of the river.
Skyscrapers, Markets, Ice Cubes, Tourism, and Waterfalls... Thailand's Excesses
by Marien33 · 2025-03-20 · 249 replies


A somewhat lengthy title... I could have simply written: from Bangkok to Chiang Rai, via Chiang Mai, since that was my route. But when poets embellish our travel journals with their verbal flourishes, you’ve got to try not to be too ordinary.

Skyscrapers of excess? You’ll have gathered that from the photo illustrating this journal—though it might change as the trip goes on.

The excess of markets—not so much in their size, though... Chatuchak... But in their sheer number. Day markets, night markets, floating markets, fresh produce markets, fish markets, meat markets, spice markets, fabric markets... and even... amulet markets... For luck, good fortune, protection. Not to mention, sadly, the market for girls—and boys, incidentally. I’ve even heard they’re displayed in windows. I’ve heard about that one, like you have, but I didn’t set foot in it, so I can’t say anything about it. Some even claim there’s a black-market trade in children. Disgusting! It reminded me of the book *The Parcel* by Anosh Irani, which I recommended in another journal. The story is set in India, but I’ve been told it exists in Thailand too. So, the "famous Thai markets" we’re bombarded with in paper and online guides—sure, they amazed me in the first few days, and I don’t regret visiting them. But no matter how big they were, I quickly got my fill since you saw the same things at every stall...

I had a market overdose.

Excess of tourism? I should say *tourists*, since I saw them literally swarming in the streets and those famous markets. I’d forgotten about them. I’d lost the habit, living in an Indian city for so long...

Waterfalls are a bit like markets. At this time of year, they’re not particularly spectacular, but they’re everywhere. There are the ones everyone goes to see. For example, Erawan, which I decided to skip even though it was in my original itinerary—I guessed it’d be a nightmare with the selfie circus. On the other hand, you come across them all over the place, hidden in the mountains and forests, not listed in any guide. Not to mention the ones you can find in temples or even private homes... Yes, really! Thais love waterfalls, so they install them in their gardens—and I even saw one in the middle of the city, right on the street! Sometimes they’re tiny, but very photogenic.

But what do ice cubes have to do with this? Why the excess of ice cubes? Not only are they everywhere by the ton, but they put them in *everything* you drink. You’d think they’d even put them in soup! And it’s not just one or two ice cubes—no! They fill the container to the brim, whatever it is, then pour the liquid on top to fill the gaps. They’ll make you an excellent coffee right in front of you, piping hot, then—bam! An avalanche of ice cubes in the glass. Okay, I’m exaggerating a little. They *do* sometimes ask if you prefer your coffee—or tea—hot. Everything edible, and especially everything drinkable, is refrigerated: vegetables, fruit, hot drinks (I mean, drinks that are *usually* hot), but meat and fish are left out in the open. They just wave a little whisk to shoo away the flies when they get too eager. Mind you, I never put fruit, cheese, eggs, or water in the fridge in France, but I do in India. And I refrigerate meat and fish too... Though sometimes one of those little flies sneaks into the fridge...

You won’t find practical or technical details in this journal, like addresses or prices. Others do that better than me. You also won’t find the names of obscure or unknown places I discovered, or directions to get there.

I don’t really feel like recounting what I saw day by day, following my schedule and route. There might be flashbacks, projections into the future. It’ll depend on my memories, what I felt, what I hated, what comes back to me—and maybe your questions and our exchanges. And for those who’ve never read me before, you’ll have to get used to my parentheses and digressions, maybe on a completely different subject, as my thoughts wander. Stories within stories. There’ll also be long, endless sentences—but still punctuated, so you can follow along. Though I used to curse Proust and his sentences that started on one page and ended on the next, sometimes even further. I’d have to reread them twenty times to follow and understand what he was saying. I hated Proust. But hey, I was 20. Maybe I’d like him now?

See? The digressions are starting already. Forgive me.

You’ll find few photos here. First, the number is limited, and second, photos aren’t the main purpose of either VF or a travel journal. They’re too often used to mask the poverty of the text. And, sorry to say it, but so many of them are just plain ugly! If you really want to see photos, I’ll share some links where you can browse them at your leisure
What are the criteria that make you choose one destination over another?
by Attila · 2025-03-02 · 182 replies
Hi there,

The title might be a bit long, but I hope it’s completely understandable!

When it comes to choosing your next trip, what tips the scales in favor of Eritrea over Ibiza?

Why pick Canada over French Polynesia?

The price? A magazine or TV report, a travel journal, an Instagram ad? Ease of travel? Minimal time difference? The country that has the most in common with all the trip participants? Activities? Relaxation? The desire to push your limits?

A photo?



What else, I wonder...

Personally, I often prioritize simple destinations (no administrative hassles), where I’m not at risk (nothing extraordinary like getting kidnapped by Daesh or ending up in a jail cell because the current geopolitics aren’t favorable to my passport, etc.), and where I can drive.

Wide-open natural spaces are more my thing than urban anthills.

Finally, I try not to spend three days on a plane to reach my destination, and I aim for a maximum budget of 3500 € (for 3 weeks) in comfortable conditions—that means charming hotels, good meals, etc.

What about you?🙂
Slow Travel or the Illusion of Authenticity
by Blogob · 2025-01-01 · 57 replies
“Slow travel” is a concept that some tout as a philosophical revolution in travel. But on closer inspection, it’s nothing more than a marketing repackaging of an age-old practice.

This term is wrapped in an aura of intellectualism. It promises to reinvent the experience of travel by valuing slowness, contemplation, and cultural immersion.

The term “slow travel” claims to bring depth to travel, but it often relies on clichés.

Taking your time, meeting locals, avoiding quick visits—these practices have always existed and are nothing revolutionary.

Before the era of airplanes, high-speed trains, and express stays, traveling necessarily meant taking your time. Pilgrims, merchants, and explorers already practiced a form of “slow travel,” without hashtags or self-proclaimed spiritual guides.

Crossing lands on foot or by horse required total immersion in the landscapes, cultures, and unpredictability of the journey. Yet, no one attributed philosophical intentions to them: it was a necessity.

Slow travel, in its current version, may be less a philosophy than a reflection of the contradictions of an affluent class searching for meaning in a world they help overload.

So-called “slow” travel is presented as a privileged way to understand a culture, but this claim is debatable. A region never represents an entire country.

Immersing yourself in a community doesn’t guarantee a complete or more authentic understanding than any other way of traveling.

Slowness in itself doesn’t guarantee depth or ethics. You can immerse yourself in a place over a weekend, just as you can spend months in a country without grasping its subtleties.

By positioning itself as an antidote to “fast” tourism, slow travel fetishizes a temporality that only makes sense if it’s accompanied by real openness and an effort to integrate.

But this over-intellectualization often masks a desire to belong to a trend or a need to stand out socially.

Behind this posture sometimes lies a whim: the urge to reinvent one’s life elsewhere in an idealized form. But this quest for elsewhere remains fundamentally a way to escape or respond to unease, rather than a true commitment to the cultures visited.

When we talk about “encounters” while traveling, we often forget that these exchanges are facilitated by biased contexts. As a traveler, you’re seen as a temporary visitor, unattached, and that changes the dynamic.

Locals, whether curious or used to tourists, adopt a different stance than they would with a neighbor they see daily.

This interaction is also tinged with asymmetry: the traveler has the luxury of time and availability, while in daily life, personal concerns often take precedence over the desire to connect.

The flip side is that the openness displayed while traveling is often a facade. We boast about chatting with a fisherman or sharing a meal with a local family, but how many of these encounters lead to a real understanding of cultural differences or sincere reflection?

Once home, these moments become anecdotes, social trophies to show off, without fundamentally changing our relationship with others in our daily lives.

By imposing a definition, we push people to adapt their practices to fit an idealized model. This can lead to a paradoxical standardization: “slow travel” becomes a checklist of behaviors (meetings, immersion, slowness).

The “bobos” (bourgeois-bohemians), often in search of meaning in a world saturated with options, believe that giving a name to a practice grants it legitimacy or moral value. But this obsession with framing and theorizing travel only drains it of its spontaneity.

Someone who grew up at the crossroads of multiple cultures, on the other hand, doesn’t feel this need. For them, traveling isn’t a philosophical project but an intrinsic part of their life.

The very concept of “slow travel” can seem absurd: why glorify what’s simply natural?

Why try to turn into an ideology what should be a personal, intimate experience, free from semantic constraints?

Ultimately, this need for labeling, this frantic quest to name every gesture, reveals a society craving simplicity.

Travel, in its purest form, doesn’t need justification or slogans. It doesn’t need slowness or speed: it’s simply lived.

Perhaps the real challenge is to unlearn this Western habit of conceptualizing everything that should simply be felt.

For many, travel is a parenthesis, a temporary break from daily life. But if we reject this distinction between “home” and “elsewhere,” every human life becomes a continuous journey through varied environments.

From this perspective, “slow travel” loses all meaning, because living somewhere—whether for a week or five years—is part of the same experience of adaptation.

So, we ask the fans of marketing slogans: is travel a parenthesis or a journey?

“Slow travel” is often driven by a Western eco-bobo ideology, tinged with post-colonial guilt. This discourse promotes a supposedly virtuous way of traveling while forgetting that these practices remain a privilege.

Far from deconstructing power dynamics, it sometimes reinforces them by glorifying a different kind of consumption, still centered on comfort.

There’s also a condescending side to this rhetoric. By idealizing slowness, slow travel advocates imply that those who travel quickly or on a budget are less “authentic” in their approach.

Yet, isn’t that a form of contempt? Do those who leave for a well-deserved week after months of hard work deserve less consideration?

Concepts like “slow travel” or “sustainable tourism” seem hollow when reduced to marketing slogans or standardized behaviors. They confine travel to preconceived frameworks, stripping it of its spontaneous and unpredictable dimension.

Instead of categorizing, it would be more relevant to recognize the plurality of human experiences without trying to define them.

Slow travel doesn’t invent anything. It simply puts into words—and often slogans—what travel has always been for those who practice it with intention.

Maybe we should stop trying to theorize every movement and simply rediscover travel for what it is: a human experience, sometimes slow, sometimes fast, but always personal.

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