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Partir de la Croatie du Sud, traverser la Bosnie et rallier la Croatie du Nord?
by Maia84
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
est-il possible de remonter à partir de la Croatie du Sud via Sarajevo ou autre, en traversant la Bosnie pour rallier la Croatie du Nord? et si oui que faut il comme papiers ?
départ prévu début octobre..
nous partons avec notre véhicule un 4x4 équipé d'une tente de toit; est -il possible de faire halte pour la nuit à notre guise ? ou est il possible de demander gentiment à des paysans de passer la nuit sur leur terrain ?
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Bonjour,
Oui, c'est possible. Pour les papiers, rien de spécial, passeport, permis de conduire, papiers du véhicule...
J'imagine que la question porte sur le passage des frontières : quand on l'a fait en avril en voiture de location, on n'a jamais été arrêté aux différentes frontières ; visiblement, les douaniers ne s'intéressaient qu'aux bus de tourisme. Evidemment, ça peut changer...
Bon voyage
Christine
Non, il y a quand même des contrôles mais ils sont essentiellement formels, ce n'est pas compliqué, sur cette frontière, dans la mesure où ils sont habitués au tourisme transfrontalier, mais il faut éviter de dire qu'il n'y aurait qu'une frontière pour la forme...
Comment feriez-vous en France? Déjà je vous déconseille de croire que les gens vont tous être disposés pour vous laisser vous installer sur leur terrain. Ensuite, ne croyez pas que la communication sera évidente dans certaines zones. A cela s'ajoute un conseil majeur à mon sens : évitez de partir à l'aventure, car il y a encore beaucoup de mines, pas toujours signalées... Il vaut mieux s'installer près des habitations, mais le camping sauvage est interdit et peut être sévèrement sanctionné comme en Croatie... Ne sous-estimez pas les risques.
Comment feriez-vous en France? Déjà je vous déconseille de croire que les gens vont tous être disposés pour vous laisser vous installer sur leur terrain. Ensuite, ne croyez pas que la communication sera évidente dans certaines zones. A cela s'ajoute un conseil majeur à mon sens : évitez de partir à l'aventure, car il y a encore beaucoup de mines, pas toujours signalées... Il vaut mieux s'installer près des habitations, mais le camping sauvage est interdit et peut être sévèrement sanctionné comme en Croatie... Ne sous-estimez pas les risques.
Bonjour, les champs de mines sont signalés par un panneau(voir photos sous mon nom), tu peux toujours demander à t'arreter sur le parking d'un resto ou bistro, les gens sont vraimant trés acceuillant, attention au routes parfois en mauvais états, 30 à 40 de moyenne, sans compter les charettes tirées par de chevaux.
Grande spécialité de la Policija, les radars jumelles et l'oubli d'allumer ses feux de croissement 24/24 h, ils en sont friands, attention aux routiers qui on parfois une conduite suicidaire, le prix d'une vie dans un pays qui a connu tant de violence, n'a peut etre pas le meme prix qui chez nous, si l'un te suit, gare-toi sur le coté, car il te depassera quelque soit le risque.
Vérifie la carte verte, la case BIH ne doit pas etre biffée, sinon demande l'extention à ton assureur, on sait également l'achetrer à la frontière, mais à déconseiller(prix, couverture, ...).
Sinon, la BIH n'est certainement pas un pays de sauvage, et peut etre visité en observant quelques régles de prudence, la frontière administrative entre serbes et croato-musulmans serpente dans tous le pays, en toute circonstance reste neutre.
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Grande spécialité de la Policija, les radars jumelles et l'oubli d'allumer ses feux de croissement 24/24 h, ils en sont friands, attention aux routiers qui on parfois une conduite suicidaire, le prix d'une vie dans un pays qui a connu tant de violence, n'a peut etre pas le meme prix qui chez nous, si l'un te suit, gare-toi sur le coté, car il te depassera quelque soit le risque.
Vérifie la carte verte, la case BIH ne doit pas etre biffée, sinon demande l'extention à ton assureur, on sait également l'achetrer à la frontière, mais à déconseiller(prix, couverture, ...).
Sinon, la BIH n'est certainement pas un pays de sauvage, et peut etre visité en observant quelques régles de prudence, la frontière administrative entre serbes et croato-musulmans serpente dans tous le pays, en toute circonstance reste neutre.
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Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Bonjour,
Mon message n'avait que pour but de témoigner de mon expérience, sans volonté de généralisation, comme je l'ai bien précisé. Encore une fois, nous, nous n'avons pas été arrêtés aux frontières, ce qui ne signifie pas que personne ne le sera jamais ; juste qu'arrêter les touristes n'est pas systématique. 😉
Le reste du message ne me concerne pas, il me semble...
Christine
Bonjour,
Pour les controles aux frontiéres, c'est pas pire qu'en Suisse par exemple.On demande le passeport ou la CNI, parfois un douanier demande à voir le coffre, c'est tout....
Pour les controles aux frontiéres, c'est pas pire qu'en Suisse par exemple.On demande le passeport ou la CNI, parfois un douanier demande à voir le coffre, c'est tout....
Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Pas toujours, pour les mines, c'est bien le problème... Il ne faut absolument pas négliger ces limites. Les locaux le disent, ils le savent bien mieux que nous, qui sommes de simples touristes en transit. S'ils le rappellent avec attention, on serait extrêmement vaniteux de se croire au dessus des dangers!
Vérifie la carte verte, la case BIH ne doit pas etre biffée, sinon demande l'extention à ton assureur, on sait également l'achetrer à la frontière, mais à déconseiller(prix, couverture, ...).
Ca n'est pas exact non plus. Toutes les assurances ne prévoient pas cette région, même avec une extension et les douaniers sont en droit de ne pas l'accepter, comme cela se passe pour la Macédoine ou l'Albanie, y compris quand on a toutes les preuves. Chaque situation est spécifique.
Vérifie la carte verte, la case BIH ne doit pas etre biffée, sinon demande l'extention à ton assureur, on sait également l'achetrer à la frontière, mais à déconseiller(prix, couverture, ...).
Ca n'est pas exact non plus. Toutes les assurances ne prévoient pas cette région, même avec une extension et les douaniers sont en droit de ne pas l'accepter, comme cela se passe pour la Macédoine ou l'Albanie, y compris quand on a toutes les preuves. Chaque situation est spécifique.
C'est bien pour ca que je conseille de dormir sur un parking, pour les formalités aux frontiéres, hormis parfois l'attente, je n'ai jamais eu de problémes particulier, j'ai déjà été 3 fois, la 1ére à l'entrée;la police m'a demandé la carte verte dont j'avais pris soin de demender l'extention BIH, d'autre part ce ne sont pas les douaniers qui s'occupent de ces formalités mais la police aux frontiéres.
Ceci n'est que mon témoignage...
Ceci n'est que mon témoignage...
Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
aprés m'être renseignée via internet sur la Bosnie nous sommes déjà conquis par ce pays... peu de touristes, un pays beau et sauvage qui se mérite...
le renseignement que j'ai en vrac c la t°..nous comptons partir début octobre et nous avons appris avec bonheur que le camping sauvage ne posait aucun problème...mais voilà quelle est la température...
nous comptons faire Mostar/Sarajevo/Jablanica/Jatce/Banja luka/Tuzla...
Les t° doivent changer d'une région à l'autre.
merci pour tous vos renseignements.... y compris les campings qui apparemment n'existent pas encore
bonjour,
la température ne devrai pas poser de soucis surtout la croatie du sud jusqu'à mostar
ensuite pour le reste cela restera correct avec des averses.
pour le camping vous serez surpris de voir comment des gens avec pas grand vous accueilleront.
quand aux mines il n' y en aura pas là ou vous passerez, car le peu qui reste est très éloigné des grands axes et de plus elles sont indiquées par un panneau et délimité avec des bandes.
pour votre circuit.
(pocitelj vieux vilage du 15e), mostar, jablanica, sarajevo, (visoko à 20 km des "pyramides" y ont été decouvertes voir google...) jajce avec de superbes chutes, banja luka. tuzzla vous fera faire un petit detour si vous souhaitez le faire c'est apres sarajevo.
en ce qui concerne les papier la pièce d'identité suffit aussi bien en croatie qu'en bosnie. mais comme déja dit + haut il faut la carte verte avec bih.non rayé.
sinon à l'extreme si vous trouvez par d'endroit pour dormir les chambres sont + que bon marché. aussi bien en bord de mer qu'à l'interieur des terres c'est en gros 10 euros la nuit meme sur la cote on tropuve à ce prix.
sinon la chose à savoir la bosnie est beaucoup moins cher que la croatie qui elle, est sensiblement moins cher que la france. pour vous aider pour le change en croatie 1 kuna est environ 1 de nos francs donc 10 kuna egal 1.50 euros env.
et en bosnie le km c'est env. la moitié. 2 km egal 1 euros env.
bon courage et profitez en bien
merci pour ta réponse mais nous ne sommes plus sûr de partir dans cette direction à cause de la t°.
Comme nous privilegions le bivouac, à la limite le camping nous ne craignons pas les nuits fraîches (tente de toit duvet et couette) mais les soirées fraîches et le matin frisquet.....et la pluie...enfin on n'est pas encore décidés...comme d'hab
bisous a toi et encore merci
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In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
Hi there.
I’d like to know what the daily budget is for Greece in December. I’ll be landing in Athens and staying there for a week, then heading to some other islands—I don’t have a set itinerary yet. Also, I’ve heard that in December, or early January, the temperature is around 11–16°C. Is that accurate?
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
hi
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week trip in late September with our camper van to explore Bulgaria and Romania.
What routes would you recommend, starting from the South?
Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!