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Zitounet

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2009-08-13

La Finlande dont je vais parler est celle des vacances en famille, excluant les voyages professionnels ou les séjours d'étudiant, individuel ou en groupe.

Lors de nos vacances d'été, de 1978 à 2011, nous sommes allés douze fois en Finlande, parfois en couplant avec un circuit en Norvège ou avec diverses traversées de la Suède. De toute la Scandinavie, c'est le pays où nous avons préféré retourner et retrouver le calme et l'isolement, dans la forêt, près des lacs. C'est là aussi que nous avons été le mieux accueilli, là où nous avons eu les meilleures rencontres et fait des amis. Là aussi où nous avons pris du plaisir à la pêche, sans être du tout pêcheurs chevronnés ni même de vrais amateurs. Pour les finlandais qui me liraient, cette passion pour leur pays a été jusqu'à la lecture du Kalevala et au diplôme de « sauna fumé ».

Rencontre en Laponie

Tous les voyages se sont fait en voiture, au départ de Nantes, avec 2 à 4 jours de routes suivant la destination initiale et les ferries empruntés.

A quelle période y aller ?

Je ne parlerai pas de la Finlande en hiver, des séjours de neige en Laponie que l'on trouve sur les catalogues de tous les bons voyagistes, mais de la Finlande en été, où on va en vacances en famille. Mais quand y aller ? Le pays est tout au nord de l'Europe, la météo et le thermomètre, c'est comment ? En Laponie, on dit « ici, il fait plus souvent +30° que -40° », Cela veut dire qu'il peut faire chaud en été, mais la période est limitée. Lors de tous nos séjours au-dessus du cercle polaire, une ou deux semaines de juin à août, nous avons toujours constaté que le temps se dégradait à partir de la 2ème semaine d'août. Vent d'est – nord est, pluies, baisse rapide de température du lac limitant les envies de baignade. A l'inverse, trop tôt, les boues qui suivent les fontes des neiges peuvent être désagréables avec les premières chaleurs. Plus au sud, une année où nous étions restés assez tard fin août , les brumes matinales s'était progressivement transformées en brouillard persistant toute la matinée. Je résumerais donc la période à fin mai – fin août au sud et mi juin 7 août au nord. Cela n'assure pas du beau temps, il faut penser que lorsque l'on part vers le nord, de l'Irlande (pour ne pas dire de la Bretagne) à la Baltique, on ne peut être sûr d'avoir du soleil tous les jours en été comme sur les bords de la Méditerranée.

2h30 du matin, le 13 juin 2011 juste au dessus du cercle polaire

Comment s'y rendre ?

J'élimine l'idée d'une liaison routière par la Pologne, les pays Baltes et la Russie, ce serait un tout autre voyage. J'élimine aussi la combinaison avec une visite de la Norvège – tout à fait possible, j'en parlerai à part.

En avion et voiture de location – j'ai pratiqué au printemps 2011. L'intérêt, c'est bien sûr de remplacer 1500 à 2500 km de route par l'avion . Avec Finnair, on trouve des liaisons à un prix abordable au départ de paris ou d'Amsterdam Après, il faut louer une voiture, et là, la Finlande est chère (5 fois le prix des USA pour un 4x4, mais un 4x4 n'est pas nécessaire ni même utile – voir routes et chemins). Il faut compter plus de 400€ la semaine pour une petite voiture. L'inconvénient de l'avion est aussi la limite des bagages.

En voiture et bateau – là, j'ai du faire toutes les traversées qui existent ou qui existaient. Depuis il y en a des nouvelles et certaines ont disparues. Il faut distinguer 2 grandes routes – directe d'Allemagne en Finlande ou avec une étape par la Suède.. Ma préférée a toujours été la seconde, avec une nuit sur un ferry de la StenaLine entre Kiel (D) et Goteborg (S) puis une nuit entre Stockholm et Turku (Fi) ou Helsinki avec la Viking Line ou la SiljaLine. Pourquoi une nuit ? Parce que ça permet de se déplacer pendant la nuit, de faire un super dîner au buffet, de dormir dans une cabine et de prendre un bon petit déjeuner avant de reprendre la route au matin. Et la traversée de la Baltique en été est plus calme que celle de la Manche. Sans visiter la Norvège , la traversée au départ de l'Allemagne peut se faire vers Olso, au départ de Kiel (plus cher, mais l'entrée dans le fjord d'Oslo au petit matin est un spectacle inoubliable). Puis Oslo- Stockholm par la route Les traversées directes se font en 24h mais ne sont pas journalières – les prix actuels méritent d'être épluchés et comparés. Il faut aussi voir les horaires: une arrivée tard le soir peut être gênantes.

En voiture sans bateau – autrefois, cela nécessitait quelques courtes traversées en ferry, maintenant ponts et tunnel relient le Danemark et la Suéde. Il faut alors monter vers le nord pour rejoindre la Laponie finlandaise, 2 jours de route par la E4 qui longe la côte. Personnellement, je préfère l'itinéraire qui passe par l'intérieur, un peu plus long, mais plus agréable que la route côtière d'où on ne voit jamais la mer. Bien sûr, cette liaison pont-tunnel qui arrive en Suède à Malmo peut se combiner avec une traversée en ferry de Stockholm à Turku ou Helsinki

Comment se loger ? Camping Lors des premiers voyages, nous avons parfois campé pour les étapes intermédiaires, entre 2 locations. Puis les enfants grandissant et avec toujours le soucis de partir sans remorque ni matériel sur le toît de la voiture, les tentes sont restées à la maison. Cela ne nous a pas empêché de nous loger dans des camping en louant des chalets à la nuit. Parfois très bien équipés, parfois sommaires, ces cabanes sur les campings offrent des solutions pas trop onéreuses. Il peut être préférable de réserver en pleine saison ou d'arriver de bonne heure. Les draps ne sont pas fournis, il faut les louer en supplément ou en apporter. Chalet Notre principal moyen de logement a été la location de chalet, soit dans ensembles dans les endroits les plus fréquentés, soit à des particuliers en passant par les Tourist Offices ou par courrier (maintenant par internet) auprès de « Lomarengas ». Nous avons aussi loué directement à des particuliers dans des lieux déjà connus.

Un chalet (je préfère ce terme à cabane ou cottage, parfois employé pour le même sens). L'idéal : dans la forêt, à quelques dizaines de mètres du lac, avec un ponton, une barque, le sauna chauffé au bois près du ponton pour se plonger dans l'eau et une plage.

Le chalet, tout en bois, naturellement, avec 1, 2, 3 pièces ou plus – une cuisine - une cheminée – salle d'eau quand elle n'est pas avec le sauna à l'extérieur

Il doit être rares maintenant de louer des chalets sans électricité ni eau courante, mais nous avons connus. Les bougies, l'eau au puit à 50m ou au magasin à 15 km, la cuisine au feu de bois, les toilettes dehors… Mais le chemin de terre pour y accéder, c'est toujours courant. Certain sont sur une île, accessible en bateau (à rame) Hôtel Nous avons rarement logé en hôtel en Finlande, peu adapté au 1 puis 2 puis 3 enfants que nous avons amené avec nous de 1978 à 1993 (après ce fut 2 puis 1 puis 0, au fur et à mesure qu'ils ont cessé de nous accompagner. Des rares cas en mémoire, c'était plutôt cher.

Par contre les hôtels sont des lieux de restauration pratiques et économiques le midi. Autres Je n'ai pas d'expérience en B&B ni en Auberge de Jeunesse.

Un essai de logement en ferme en 2004 s'est traduit par un chalet tout à fait comparable à ceux décrits plus haut, mais avec la possibilité de diner dans la salle commune (assez proche d'un restaurant – cuisine correcte et beaucoup trop à manger / cher)

Ma LAPONIE (Ce que j'en sais, ce que j'y ai vu, ce qui m'y plait)

Sur mes 12 périples en Finlande, il n'y a que 4 fois que je ne suis pas allé dans le nord, au-dessus du cercle polaire. En fait cette immense région descend bien en dessous de cette limite mythique.

Passage du cercle polaire

C'est lors de notre 2ème voyage que nous avions loué un chalet sur le bord du lac Raanujärvi, juste au-dessus du cercle polaire, entre les 2 grandes routes du nord, la E75 par Rovaniemi à 60km à l'est et la E8 par Pello à 30km à l'ouest. Un lac comme des dizaines de milliers d'autres, un minuscule village au bout d'un chemin de terre. Un petit bâtiment de bois avec 1 seule pièce se séparant en deux par un rideau, un coin cuisine, une salle d'eau et un sauna. A quelques mètres, un ponton et une barque. 15 jours là-bas en juillet, avec le soleil qui n'en finit pas de se coucher et ne disparaît pas bien longtemps derrière la colline au fond du lac. Là, nous nous sommes baignés, nous avons ramé sur le lac, nous avons pêché des perches, nous avons vu le propriétaire monter tout seul une énorme bâtisse en troncs de sapin (6 chambres je crois à l'étage), nous avons vu la grand mère tisser des tapis avec des tissus multicolores, nous sommes allés en barque avec le grand père relever les filets pleins de siika (lavaret, salmonidé des lacs de montagne chez nous). Nous avons cueilli des framboises et des myrtilles, Les rennes venaient souvent le soir faire un tour dans le grand pré devant le chalet.

Nous sommes retournés bien des fois dans ce lieu, qui a servi de base pour nos excursions nordiques. D'autres chalets ont été construits depuis, nous avons logé dans 3 autres dont l'ancienne résidence d'été des propriétaires. Cet immense bâtiment à 2 étages ne comptait pas moins de 24 lits. C'est lors de nos séjours ici que nous avons remarqué qu'après la première semaine d'août, le vent tourne à l'est (de là il ne viens jamais rien de bon, dises les finlandais) amenant fraicheur, vent et pluie. La température de l'eau du lac baisse de 3-4 degrés en 1 semaine.

Le cahier signé par les divers locataires met en évidence les périodes de locations favorites du lieu : les fêtes de fin d'année la fin de l'hiver quand il commence à faire jour, février/mars, pour le ski et autres sports de neige l'été, juin juillet début août l'automne pour la saison de chasse Rovaniemi

La plus grande ville de la région administrative lapone compte près de 60 000 habitants (sur 8000 km2). C'est le pays du PÈRE NOËL, le seul vrai, si si, tous les finlandais vous le certifieront. En tout cas le lieu le plus visité est certainement la maison du Père Noël, à 10km au nord, juste à la limite du cercle polaire en un lieu nommé « Santa Clauss Village » . En fait c'est plus un complexe commercial où l'on trouve tout pour les décors de fin d'année, où les enfants peuvent se faire photographier avec le vieux à la barbe blanche dans son chariot tiré par les rennes. Y est associé un parc d'attraction nommé Santa Park (je ne connais pas). Situé sur la E75 vers Ivalo, il ne faut pas hésiter à y fait une halte.

Autres lieux à visiter, le musée arctique de la Laponie, Artikum. Situé à l'entrée Ouest de Rovaniemi. le musée de plein air à l'est de la ville. Au « Tourist Information » situé en plein centre ville, il arrive que les jeunes filles de l'accueil parlent français. Lors de nos derniers passages j'ai eu des difficultés à trouver un ravintola (restaurant classique) ouvert le midi pour manger un plat de renne. Il y a quelques années, l'école hôtelière avait une bonne table.

Vers le lac Inari

A monter vers le nord, passer par Kemijävri allonge de 60km . Je n'ai pas beaucoup de souvenir de la ville à part de son pont route-train assez curieux. C'est la ville la plus septentrionale de Finlande.

Sur la E75, Sodankylä est connu pour son festival du film du soleil de minuit (pas vu), A visiter, les 2 églises.

Tankavaara, 100km plus au nord est le village des chercheurs d'or. On s'y arrête pour visiter le musée consacré à la grande époque de l'orpaillage dans la région. Mais mieux, il faut enfiler des bottes, prendre une gamelle et un tas de terre, aller s'assoir sur un ban en travers du ruisseau et remuer son plat dans l'eau sous la direction et les conseils d'un professionnel sorti tout droit de la ruée vers l'or. On repars toujours avec son grain d'or, un milligramme au mieux.

Et à la fin, il ne reste que l'or C'est là qu'on été organisés les premiers championnats du monde d'orpaillage.

Ivalo, sur la rivière Ivalojöki est l'arrivée sud-est du lac Inari. En traversant la ville, on trouvera de nombreux magasins de souvenirs lapons tirés des rennes (peaux, bois, nature ou travaillés) et d'autres animaux (du moins la dernière fois que j'y suis passé). A proximité, en embarquant de la rive, on pouvait faire un survol du lac en hydravion.

Inari, une municipalité grande comme la Slovénie ou Israël pour environ 7000 habitants, compte une forte part de lapons et les langues sames y sont parlées. A part un séjours reposant sur les bords de l'immense lac de plus de 2000km2, la pêche avec des dates et règles bien précises, il faut surtout visiter le musée de plein air lapon.

Entrée du musée lapon (en 1978)

C'est certainement un des plus intéressants de Finlande. Un promenade de plus d'une heure pour visiter les habitations lapones d'hiver et d'été, les collections de vêtements traditionnels, les constructions annexes (saunas), les barques de pêche etc. Le circuit permet de découvrir les différents pièges utilisés pour chasser loup et ours et les autres animaux sauvages de la région.

Piège à loup et à ours Je rappelle au passage que les rennes, que l'on croisent en entière liberté en été, sont les animaux des élevages lapons. Lors d'un de nos voyage, une affaire faisait grand bruit dans la région : un voyagiste (étranger) organisait des parties de chasse de rennes, à l'arc !

Vers la Norvège

Trois grandes directions à partir d'Inari vers l'extrême nord scandinave : celle du cap nord que beaucoup connaissent mais que je n'ai jamais faite celle de Ustjöki, le lieu touristique le plus septentrional de Finlande. Là, la rivière Teno sépare la Finlande de la Norvège. C'est une rivière à saumon, parsemée de filet en été. De là nous avions remonté jusqu'à des petits ports norvégiens beaucoup moins touristiques que le cap nord, à travers des paysages désertiques et encore enneigés en août, celle qui longe le lac Inari à l'ouest. Nous l'avions prise pour aller à Kirkerness, le port le plus à l'est au nord de la Norvège, près de la Russie. Sur cette route 971, après les petits villages le long du lac et quelques campings avec des chalets à louer, fréquentés par les pêcheurs estivaux, on arrive dans un secteur plus désert. Soudain, on s'aperçoit que les noms des minuscules villages que l'on approche sont écrits en caractères cyrilliques ! Aurait-on passé la frontière russe sans s'en apercevoir ? Vite, on contrôle sur la carte ; non , ce n'est pas possible. Un petit cours d'histoire – bon plus-tard. Plus loin, sur la rive de la rivière, un centre de vacances avec quelques chalets. Arrêter manger ou simplement entrer dans le restaurant, les saumons pêchés ici sont affichés aux murs, grandeurs natures et c'est impressionnant. Plus haut, le poste frontière de Näätämö est (était) ouvert uniquement dans la journée. Au carrefour qui suit avec la route E6, on vérifiera ce qu'il reste dans le réservoir (surtout en rentrant de Kirkeness – la première ville indiquée à l'ouest est Alta à 400km)

En redescendant

De Inari, une route « verte » descend à Kittilä. 200Km en majorité piste en terre lors de notre passage, il y plus de 10 ans il est vrai. Tôle ondulée, rennes et quelques villages fantômes, mais un plaisir de traverser une région à l'écart des grandes routes du nord, faite de forêt et de collines. La route longe l'immense parc national de Lemmenjoki.

Au-dessus de Kittilä, le pays a plus de relief. Sur les pentes du mont Levi qui culmine à 530m, on trouve la grande station de ski de Sirkka. Probablement ouvert tard au printemps, mais il n'y a pas de neige en été. Au sud est, la route rejoins Rovaniemi en longeant une rivière.

L'ouest de la Laponie

La route qui longe la frontière suédoise le long de la rivière Tornio est très fréquentée par ceux qui redescendent du cercle polaire. A Muonio, on trouve un grand magasin à souvenirs lapons, qui a du remplacer les petits marchands locaux qui s'implantaient autrefois sur le bord de la route.

Des visites dans ce secteur, j'ai gardé le souvenir des pistes de terre et de gravier vers le parc de Pallastunturit avec les monts à 800m. Au-dessus la petit bourgade de Enontekiö et son musée local,

La petite ville de Pello est celle où j'ai fait les achats pour nous ravitailler lors de nos séjours à Raanujärvi.

Au sud de Rovaniemi, la petite ville de Ranua a un zoo consacré aux animaux polaires. On peut voir ceux qui ne se rencontrent pas trop souvent sur les routes, comme les ours, les loups et les rennes sauvages (plus proche du caribou canadien que le renne d'élevage), les élans etc. On y voit même des ours blancs, bien loin de leur banquise.

A VENIR

La région des lacs et la Carélie

La côte Ouest &la côte sud

Quoi manger ? Restaurant Déjeuner buffet Plats particulier Cuisine traditionnelle Achats Particulier : poissons fumé, rennes, mures des marais Les pains Boisson, bière et vodka Les routes et chemin en été

Quoi visiter ? Les musées de plein air Châteaux et Églises Parcs naturels et randonnées Zoo Chercher de l'or Le Kalevala Vivre au bord d'un lac logement promenade en barque pêche la pratique du sauna Avec la location d'un chalet, il y a toujours le sauna et une barque. Le chalet est généralement proche du lac mais souvent à plusieurs dizaines de mètres. L'idéal est que le sauna soit sur le bord du lac, et s'ouvre directement sur un ponton. La pratique du sauna se fait tous les 2 ou 3 jours, bien que j'ai connu des finlandais qui y allaient tous les jours pendant les vacances. C'est de préférence en fin d'après-midi, lorsqu'on a pas à ressortir après. L'utilisation du sauna privé, ce qui est presque toujours le cas dans un chalet de location, commence par la préparation : compter près d'une heure avant de l'utiliser. apporter du bois dans le sauna : il y a toujours à proximité un stock de bois sec (bouleau en général) – il est parfois nécessaire de le découper à la hachette lorsque les morceaux sont trop gros vider la cendre si nécessaire et allumer le feux dans le foyer du sauna ; quand le feu est bien pris, remplir le foyer et l'alimenter régulièrement. remplir le réservoir d'eau sur le coté du four ; remplir la bassine (en plastique) à moitié et les seaux (sauf lorsqu'il y a une douche eau chaude eau froide) la température dans le sauna (sur le thermomètre, plus ou moins précis) doit monter au moins à 70 degrés, mais la pratique courante est plutôt 80-90, voire 100) pendant que le sauna chauffe, couper des très jeunes branches de bouleau (30-40cm) et les nouer par 4-5. On pratique le sauna en famille ou pour les groupes, hommes et femmes séparément. Lorsque le sauna est à la température souhaitée, on peut y aller. Pensez à quitter montres et colliers en même temps que les vêtements, tous les vêtements (garder un maillot de bain est considéré comme antihygiénique). Une serviette sera utile pour s'assoir sur les bancs brulants. La température est naturellement plus forte sur les bancs du haut ; attention aussi à ne pas appuyer brutalement le dos sur le bois du mur, ça peut aussi être très chaud. La séance de sauna dure 3/4h à 1 heure, entrecoupé de bains ou de douches. On reste à l'intérieur le temps que l'on juge bien, 7-10 minutes par exemple, et surtout qu'on se sent bien. La sueur doit couler de partout. Ne pas rester trop longtemps à chaque fois, 1/4h me semble trop, ne pas se forcer à rester si on ne se sent pas bien. Sortir et plonger dans le lac ! En été l'eau des lacs finlandais n'est pas plus froide que la Manche, et quand bien même, on reste dans l'eau tant qu'on ne ressent pas le froid. La douche froide remplace le bain lorsque le lac n'est pas à proximité. Quelques minutes dehors pour souffler avant de revenir dans le sauna. Le foyer du sauna est couvert de pierres. Ne pas les toucher quand c'est chaud, mais jeter de temps à autre une grande cuillerée d'eau (il y a toujours une grande cuillère en bois ou en plastique). Cela dégage un nuage de vapeur et une bouffée de chaleur qui donnera une sensation agréable à son passage. Éviter de respirer au passage du nuage. Ne pas en abuser, cela augmente la température de la pièce, mais le faire en particulier en entrant et un peu avant de sortir. Les jeunes rameaux de bouleau servent à se flageller légèrement le dos, les épaules et les jambes pour stimuler la circulation sanguine. Il peut être nécessaire de remettre du bois dans le foyer (après le premier bain s'il est consumé, et à la fin si quelqu'un d'autre l'utilise après vous). En général, on passe 3 fois au sauna, suivies d'un bain ou d'une douche. Dans un chalet de vacances, la séance est suivie par une toilette. Avec des équipements rustiques (pas de douche chaude), on utilisera l'eau bouillante du foyer mélangée dans la bassine d'eau froide pour se rincer. Tout se termine par le rinçage du plancher. Un contrôle de la bonne extinction du foyer sera à faire par la suite. Après le sauna, une bonne bière est la bienvenue et le dîner traditionnel consistera en saucisses grillées au barbecue ou au feux de la cheminée.

Souvenirs

Musique traditionnelle – 2 choses très caractéristiques et vraiment à part: les chants lapons et le kantele ( instrument des dieux dans le Kalevala)

Joueuse de Kantele Souvenirs Lapons en peau et bois de rennes Tapis traditionnels en tissus multicolores Instruments de cuisine et récipients (comme chez Ikea, mais pas made in China) Fumoir à poissons (à chaud) Rennes fumé, mures des marais et vodka

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Patakio Regular ·2009-08-15

Encore de belles photos en perspective! A SUIVRE... De l'Italie (frontière autrichienne ou slovène) pour aller en Finlande en voiture, combien d'heures ou de jours de route ?😛

Patakio

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2009-08-15

Hei !

Je dirais 12 à 15 h de route pour rejoindre Rostok où on peut prendre un bateau direct pour Helsinki (vérifier cette traversée) 24h de bateau Par la Suède, 1 jour de plus et 2 nuits de bateau

Pour toutes les estimations de temps de route, google map est très utile et plutôt exact.

La route à 2 conducteurs se fait bien

Bern

Montaigne77 Regular ·2009-08-15

Bonjour,

Beau récit qui donne envie! Si j'ai bien lu, vous êtes partis en auto de Rezé, jusqu'où? Puis bateau, de où à où? Et hébergement en chalets, c'est bien ça? Ont ils un été indien en sept/oct comme au canada? Je m'intéresse à la faune sauvage. Les chalets sont ils une opportunité de voir des animaux? Amitiés, Myrtil.

faites vos jours plus beaux que vos rêves!

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2009-08-15

hi ou hei !

je pense t'avoir vu dans les discutions sur les states, n'est - il pas ?

Nos 11 voyages, nous sommes partis en voiture de Rezé, parfois avec des étapes en Belgique ou en Allemagne, autrefois par Amsterdam, quelques fois en passant par Oslo

Les plus récents, route directe de Rezé à Kiel, heure de départ en conséquence pour avoir de la marge (3-4h) pour prendre le ferry 1400 km - 14h d'autoroute plus les poses - 2 conducteurs évidement - l'inconnue : les bouchons en Allemgne avec les travaux une nuit en ferry de Kiel à Goteborg - une petite journée de route relax en Suède (c'est déja la scandinavie) puis le ferry de nuit de Stockholm à Turku ou Helsinki suivant la destination l'été indien, bien sûr avec les bouleaux qui commencent à dorer dès la mi août dans le nord - mais pas du beau temps assuré. La faune sauvage (il faut exlure les rennes que l'on rencontre souvent en Laponie - ils vivent en compète liberté en été mais appartiennent aux lapons) ne se rencontre pas souvent - les élans qui traversent la route en courant peuvent provoqués de graves accidents les ours dans certains endroits (parcs naturels) Les finlandais disent "si vous rencontrez un ours, n'ayez pas peur, il aura plus peur que vous" ! N'empèche qu'un garde forestier a été tué par un ours en proximité d'helsinki il y a quelques années Les lièvres, les écureuils et les oiseaux migrateurs sont ce que l'on rencontre le plus

Bern

Montaigne77 Regular ·2009-08-16

Bern,

Merci de cette réponse détaillée. Oui, j'interviens parfois sur les USA, le Québec ou l'Afrique de l'est. Je suis tombé dans la marmite USA il y a des années et j'entretiens le vaccin! J'y suis allé à cheval dans le Wyoming, à moto en Arizona et à voiture un peu partout, Californie, Louisianne, Alaska, New York, Chicago, Miami...En trente ans d'USA, Québec, j'ai eu mille fois plus de chance dans mes contacts qu'en France, n'en déplaise à tous ceux qui de près ou de loin adressent la parole à un "inconnu"!

Je m'interesse particulièrement aux animaux et aux loups en particulier et j'ai toujours en tête un voyage dans les pays scandinaves, chalet, forêt, lacs, comme au Québec mais en plus cher!!

A te lire, je vois néanmoins un gros budget et une bonne organisation pour 2 semaines avec ma fille de 13 ans. J'ai le sentiment que, en dehors de la langue, je n'ai pas de problème en anglais, mais le "trüflüglüscrüt..."! Donc en dehors de la langue, je trouve que tout est vraiment très coûteux! Amitiés, au plaisir! Myrtil.

faites vos jours plus beaux que vos rêves!

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2009-08-16

Hei ou Hi !

Je ne comprend pas trop le sens de ta derniere phrase En Finlande, si le finnois est une lague obscure pour nous, tout le monde ou presque parle anglais mais aussi suédois ( c'est la langue de la côte ouest), allemand, russe et on y trouve plus de gens à parler français que dans les Rocheuses

Le coût du voyage, si la location de voiture est plus chère qu'aux States, c'est compensé par le faible prix de l'avion. et la location d'un chalet pour une semaine ne dépasse pas les prix de 7 nuits de motel Pour des périodes plus longues - 3 ou 4 semaines, y aller avec sa voiture est intéressant

Le loups, il doit y en avoir, mas je n'en ai jamais vu ailleurs qu'au zoo nordique de Ranua

näkemiin !

Bern

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2009-08-23

Aie!

Suite panne définitive de mon PC, je vais prendre un peu de retard pour la suite Je vais quand même essayer de récupérer tout ce que j'y ai déjà raconté sur MA Laponnie

La suite arrivera en septembre

Bern

Patakio Regular ·2009-08-23

On attendra! on attendra😛, c'est surtout pour toi les difficultés!!!désolée😕 bon courage. kio.

Patakio

Elgar Regular ·2010-05-13

Bonsoir, Le Pc est réparé ? 😉 A quand la suite ....😏 Merci !

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Zitounet Globetrotter ·2010-05-13

Désolé elgar, mon PC était mort mais j'avais récupéré ce qui était fait pour terminer la partie qui est au-dessus.

En fait, je me suis un peu désintéressé de ce travail pour plusieurs raisons : - le peu de questions sur la Finlande - je n'ai pas d'élément sur la Finlande en hiver - j'ai pas beaucoup de photos intéressantes des autres sites tout ça conduit à un manque de motivation et surtout, je prépare actuellement un voyage (le 5ème) aux USA et il faut dire que le forum est beaucoup plus actif sur le sujet

Mais je répond à toutes les questions qu'on me pose sur la Finlande, en particulier les questions privées.

Je continuerai certainement ce carnet de voyage un jours

Bern

Blue63 ·2010-08-09

Bonjour Merci pour ce récit qui me conforte dans mon intention de préparer un séjour en Finlande pendant l'été. Peut-être l'été prochain, ou alors il faudra attendre 2013 car la destination 2012 est déjà fixée et je débute la préparation en 2011. Sinon, j'ai eu la chance d'aller à Ivalo et sa région en janvier et je peux te transmettre quelques infos quand tu souhaiteras reprendre ce carnet. La photo de mon profil est d'ailleurs une vue du lac Inari vers la frontière russe et le village de Nellim. Bon voyage, Bérangère

DE Deborah75001 Veteran ·2010-08-18

Merci pour ce beau récit, nous avons beaucoup logé en chalet en Pologne et plus récemment en lituanie. J'adore les maisons en bois. Je voulais te demander si vous avez eu à souffrir des moustiques, taons ou autres bêtes piquantes (tiques?) dans les forêts et près des lacs en Finlande?

Merci d'avance pour ta réponse

Deborah

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2010-08-18

Bonjour

Je vais dire que l'on ne peut pas nier les désagréments provoqués par les moustiques (et eux seuls), les minuscules bestioles sont fréquentes dans les régions marécageuses du nord, principalement. Suivant les heures, l'ensoleillement et le vent, ils peuvent être un peu désagréable. Les produits (assez efficaces) pour les éloigner sont toujours en vue dans les magasins

Bern

DE Deborah75001 Veteran ·2010-08-18

Merci de ta réponse, Bern.

Nous revenons de 3 semaines en Lituanie dont 1 semaine dans une région de très nombreux lacs, avec quasiment pas de moustiques, apparemment nous avons été gatés. On a acheté pour rien une pince à tiques. On a mis du DEET (acheté en Inde, très efficace), mais en réalité même sans en mettre, on n'était pratiquement pas piqués la nuit. Ca gache un peu le séjour ces bêbêtes... hmmm je vais y réfléchir...

Deborah http://voyageforum.com/voyage/vingt_jours_en_lituanie_en_ete_2010_juillet_aout_D3618162/

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2010-08-18

Je crois qu'il ne faut pas faire une fixation là dessus les moustiques sont principalement en Laponie et ils ne nous ont pas empêcher d'y aller une dizaine de fois

Bern

Dusty35 Veteran ·2010-08-19

Bravo Zitounet! Je l'avais pas vu ce carnet.

C'est aussi une destination qui m'intéresse 🙂.

Maroc 2010 http://voyageforum.com/voyage/entre_montagnes_plages_deserts_canyons_8_jours_au_maroc_en_septembre_2010_D3729886/

Diamina Globetrotter ·2010-10-23

salut, Très riche ces commentaire sur la Finlande. je voudrais savoir si on peut facilement se faire comprendre si on ne parle pas finlandais ni suédois. Par contre, je n'ai aucun problème pour l'anglais. merci pour une éventuelle réponse.

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Zitounet Globetrotter ·2010-10-24

Bonjour Il n'y a pas de problème lorsque l'on parle anglais. La majorité des gens l'on appris On trouve aussi quelquefois des personnes qui parlent un peu français

Vous projetez d'y aller ?

Bern

Diamina Globetrotter ·2010-10-24

salut, Je suis intéressée par les régions où il fait froid. Je voudrais bien aller en finlande, mais en hiver. Je pourrais l'envisager plus probablement pour avril 2012. Ce qui m'attire, ce sont les ballades en traineau tiré par des chiens, les ballades en moto neige. Je sais, je m'y prends très en avance, mais cela me permet d'envisager plusieurs possibilités. Merci pour tous les renseignements que vous pourriez me donnez. A bientôt.

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2010-10-24

re

Oui mais moi, je connais en été. En hiver il fait parfois -40° dans le nord, c'est pas cool pour les balades en traineau. Je pense qu'en avril c'est trop tard, avec la fonte des neiges, c'est de la boue partout. Visez plutôt de la mi février à fin mars pour la Laponie, quand il commence à faire jours quelques heures, ou Noël, mais je crois qu'il y a beaucoup de monde.

Bern

Diamina Globetrotter ·2010-10-24

Resalut,

J'habite en Martinique. Donc je bénéficie de la chaleur toute l'année. Je reconnais que -40°C, c'est un peu trop froid pour moi. Je n'ai pas peur de températures allant jusqu'à -10°C. Par contre, pour les vacances je suis obligée de m'aligner sur les vacances scolaires. Je suis enseignante. Est-ce que lors des vacances de la Toussaint (fin octobre), il y a déjà suffisamment de neige? Je passe Noël chez moi en Martinique. Ou peut-être qu'il faudra que j'aille ailleurs? merci pour les conseils!

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2010-10-24

Pour la Toussaint, ce n'est pas sûr - ce sont les vacances de février qui seraient les meilleures. Maintenant je ne suis pas un spécialiste de l"hiver en Laponie, je dis ce que me rappelle des discussions avec le propriétaire du chalet que nous avons loué plusieurs fois en été. N'y a t'il pas des infos là dessus sur internet ? Les voyagistes proposent leurs séjours genre moto-neige de Noël à mars

Bern

Nat16 Regular ·2011-03-10

Très belles photos ! J'espère que ma fille va avoir un aussi bon souvenir que vous 😉 Nat16

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Zitounet Globetrotter ·2011-03-11

Les photos sont bien anciennes et ne concernent que la Laponnie Votre fille ne verra de rennes à Helsinki, ni le soleil de minuit mais la cathédrale orthodoxe vaut le détour ainsi que le marché sur le port

Bern

MaryElectra Veteran ·2011-06-29

Et bien encore un point commun car La Finlande est l'un des mes buts pour un prochain voyage, une idée très informelle pour l'instant mais qui fait son chemin. Pour l'instant encore trop amoureuse des Etats Unis mais très attirée par les pays scandinaves et surtout par la Finlande (des amis m'en ont parlé ils l'ont parcourue en moto, et puis j'aime particulièrement leurs groupes hard rock et metal 😉😛😏) Donc merci pour ces carnets qui guideront mes premiers pas vers les contrées nordiques.

"Before you judge me take a look at yourself" Children of Bodom "On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry) http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)

Diamina Globetrotter ·2011-06-29

Salut,

Finalement, j'ai trouvé une région où on peut faire de la moto neige et des ballades tirées par des chiens de traîneau en juillet-aout: c'est Ushuaia!!! Vive l'hémisphère sud! Je suis partie en Argentine en août 2010 et c'était génial. J'en parle dans mon post d’août 2010 sur l'Argentine. Les glaciers à El Calafate et les chutes d'iguacu ont aussi retenu mon attention. Si jamais ça vous dit, voici le lien, qui inclus une incursion au Chili. http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3613864;search_string=argentine;

Nereya Regular ·2011-09-11

Bonjour,

Je suis un peu "off topic" mais je me permets de vous demander votre avis tout de même. J'ai la possibilité d'aller être assistante (programme Coménius, vous connaissez peut-être) pour enseigner dans un lycée finlandais à Tampere, en Finlande, d'octobre à mai. J'ai lu quelque part que vous avez écrit à l'intention d'un futur touriste : "Tampere, oubliez, il n'y a rien d'intéressant !" 🤪

J'ai déjà vécu un an à Hong Kong, et six mois en Californie, mais il me semble que rien de ce que j'ai vécu ne me prépare, de près ou de loin à la Finlande. Les fameux moustiques, tout d'abord, et puis les quatre heures de lumière par jour 🤪, sans compter le froid. Enfin, il y a la barrière de la langue pour entrer en contact et nouer des liens avec les Finlandais : j'ai lu qu'ils parlaient anglais, mais je me demande dans quelle mesure ils sont prêt à nouer des liens d'amitié si nous devons communiquer dans une langue qui n'est ni la mienne, ni la leur.

Moi qui était si enthousiaste au début, je commence à avoir très peur ! Bref, si vous avez quelques minutes pour m'aider, je vous serez très reconnaissante ! Merci d'avance ! 🙂

La sagesse, c'est d'avoir des rêves assez grands pour ne pas les perdre de vue quand on les poursuit. ~ Oscar Wilde.

Diamina Globetrotter ·2011-09-11

salut, je n'ai jamais été en finlande, donc je ne peux absolument pas t'aider; tu t'es trompé de forumeur à qui poser ta question. Il faut poser la question a zitounet!

Nereya Regular ·2011-09-11

En fait, j'espérais qu'il voie ce message quand même, et me disait que le poster ici en fairait profiter éventuellement d'autres "forumeurs" qui se poseraient les mêmes questions. Mais vous avez raison, je vais le lui demander directement ! 🙂

La sagesse, c'est d'avoir des rêves assez grands pour ne pas les perdre de vue quand on les poursuit. ~ Oscar Wilde.

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2012-07-25

Aux voyageurs vers la Scandinavie

Est-ce que quelqu'un est intéressé pour que je remette les photos et complète ce carnet de voyage ?

Bern

Diamina Globetrotter ·2012-07-25

salut Zitounet,

Même si je ne vais pas en finlande cette année, tes photos m'intéressent.

A bientôt!

Mathews Globetrotter ·2012-07-25

bonjour,

J'ai lu quelque part que vous avez écrit à l'intention d'un futur touriste : "Tampere, oubliez, il n'y a rien d'intéressant !" 🤪

J'ai déjà vécu un an à Hong Kong, et six mois en Californie, mais il me semble que rien de ce que j'ai vécu ne me prépare, de près ou de loin à la Finlande.

Tampere effectivement il n'ya quasiment rien d'intéressant 🤪 a part la bibliothéque construite par le célébre designer Finlandais dont j'ai oublié le nom... Si tu as vécu en Californie et à Hong Kong tu risques d'être déçu... la vie en Finlande c'est une vie bien calme, bien rangée. Cependant il y a une exception , les scandinaves font la queue le vendredi soir devant les System Bolaget pour acheter des bouteilles d'alcool et se saoûler dans la rue. Mais j'ai moins vu cela à Helsinki qu'à Stockholm ou ailleurs en Scandinavie Il y a une coutume en Norvège c'est les Russ les jeunes dans les bagnoles américaines qui picolent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ je crois que ça se fait aussi en Finlande.. autre mode de vie très en vogue c'est de prendre un bateau à Turku-Abo pour la Suède et picoler sur les ferries de la Silja ou Viking Lines.

à part cela c'est vraiment pas une vie trépidante.. mais je ne voudrais pas donner une mauvaise image de la Finlande 😉 par contre le cadre de vie est très agréable, des villes à taille humaine, les gens sont respectueux, la nature elle est à proximité Pour ce qui est de la journée de travaille, les Finlandais commencent tôt le matin , travaillent un peu le midi mais à 17heures le soir il n'ya plus personne dans les bureaux. J'écris cela parce que à Helsinki les agences de voyages fermaient à 17heures le soir

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2012-07-25

Hei !

D'accord je m'en occupe en ajoutant celles de 2011

bern

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2012-07-25

Hi

Ce n'est pas la vision que l'on doit retenir de l'été enFinlande

Bern

Ranskalainen Regular ·2012-07-26

Les villes en Finlande ne sont pas intéressantes, à part quelques exceptions, et encore, on les visite très rapidement. L'intérêt de la Finlande, c'est la Nature. Avec un grand "N". Des étendues sans fin, des lacs, des forêts ... peut-être que la vie fétarde n'est pas trépidante, et encore, dans une ville aussi étudiante que Tampere, ça se discute. Mais n'importe où en Finlande, tu as des pistes de ski de fond qui partent, tu peux voir des animaux sauvages, l'hiver est d'une beauté à couper le souffle, et les aurores boréales ne se trouvent clairement pas dans des contrées plus chaudes. C'est comme Grenoble, on va pas dire à un touriste, va à Grenoble c'est génial! par contre aller dans les Alpes, tout le monde sera d'accord pour dire que c'est chouette pour les vacances...

D'octobre à mai, tu n'auras pas de problèmes de moustique, c'est surtout l'été.

Le froid, il sera dehors. Dedans, ce sera chaud. Les finlandais surchauffent les intérieurs, et vendent des vêtements qui rendent l'hiver en extérieur tout à fait tolérable. Toute la vie est adaptée à ce climat particulier. Genre quand tu rentres dans une maison, tu as un sas pour enlever tes chaussures pleines de neige, ta veste, etc.. et pareil à l'université, tu verras des gens parfois changer de chaussures. Et il y a le sauna. Dans tous les immeubles, toutes les maisons, à l'université, tu auras des saunas.

Le manque de lumière est beaucoup moins marquant grâce à la neige. Tout sera blanc, partout, tout gelé, et c'est beaucoup moins sombre qu'un hiver pluvieux sur paris, par exemple.

La langue, si tu parles anglais, ne sera pas du tout une barrière. Un finlandais de base parle couramment finnois, suédois, et anglais, avant de passer son bac. Et les anciennes générations parlent aussi anglais, tu n'auras jamais de mal à t'adresser à quelqu'un dans la rue en anglais.

Par contre, pour nouer des liens, la culture finnoise est assez particulière, les gens ne sont pas hyper open de base, il faut du temps, de la patience, mais ça se fait aussi bien qu'ailleurs au final, il n'y a pas de raison qu'il en soit autrement (ou que ce soit plus compliqué qu'à HK).

Mathews Globetrotter ·2012-07-26

C'est comme Grenoble, on va pas dire à un touriste, va à Grenoble c'est génial! par contre aller dans les Alpes, tout le monde sera d'accord pour dire que c'est chouette pour les vacances...

entièrement d'accord.... ceci dit c'est une ville qui est bien pour travailler et le cadre de vie

MI Michel49 Regular ·2012-08-12

Bonjour, moi je suis aller cette année en Finlande au mois de février, pris le ferry en Allemagne a Putgarden vers Helsinki, 27 h de traversée avec finnlines,2 nuits en cabine et un jour complet sur le bateaux, très belle traversée pour le manger impeccable, toujours des buffets mais un choix incroyable,2 ou 3 h avant d'arriver a Helsinki on entend un drôle de bruit, c'était la mer qui était gelée et le bateaux traversait cette glace assez bizarre arrivée a Helsinki il neigeait mais les routes était bien dégagée et on pouvait rouler normalement ma voiture était équipé en pneu neige, c'est obligatoire et ce n'est pas un luxe car quand on quitte les grand axe il peut avoir beaucoup de neige a la période ou je suis aller il y avait plus ou moins 50 a 1 m de neige dans certain village, mais ça roule, route dégagée. Voilà mon expérience a mois de la Finlande mais pour déja avoir fait Finlande, Suède, Norvège ce sont des pays que j'adore et j'espère y retourner le plus vite possible et toujours avec ma voiture.

Michel.

Ally310 Regular ·2013-04-03

Aux voyageurs vers la Scandinavie

Est-ce que quelqu'un est intéressé pour que je remette les photos et complète ce carnet de voyage ?

Bern

Et ben alors ?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Elle est où la suite ??? Oui on la veux !!!

Depuis que je m'intéresse à la Laponie en été, j'écume pas mal de posts, sites et blogs mais faut avouer qu'il n' a pas grand chose... J'étais heureuse de découvrir ton carnet de voyage mais.... pas de suite !!!!!!!! ou l'art de donner faim et d'enlever l'assiette !!! Ton idée de partager la Laponie en été, en famille, loin des TO me ravissait pourtant...

Même si peu de voyageurs posent des questions sur l'été, il y a quand même beaucoup de lectures et je suis sûre que cela intéresse des gens, comme moi par exemple. Ton travail n'est vraiment pas vain. Bon je sais que le post est un peu vieux mais si c'set pas trop tard...

De mon côté, j'échange ma maison en général et je voulais voir si échanger du côté de Rovaniemi pouvait être une option intéressante pour 2 semaines en juillet. A savoir ce qu'il y a à faire/voir dans les 3-4h à la ronde (oui l'échange c'est bien et peu couteux mais on peux pas découvrir l'intégralité du pays ni même en itinérrance) et en logeant si nécessaire, quelques nuits à droite et à gauche.

Bern si tu me lis...😉

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Zitounet Globetrotter ·2013-04-04

Hei

La suite ? je ne sais pas, je me suis beaucoup tourné sur l'ouest-USA ces dernières années et même si j'ai refais un séjour en Laponie en 2011, je n'ai grand chose de plus à en raconter

Il faudrait que je termine avec ce que je peux dire des autres régions, mais depuis que mes photos de Laponie ont disparu, je n'ai pas trop le courage de m'y remettre, d'autant que, si je suis allé un peu partout en Finlande, j'en ai beaucoup moins de souvenirs et très peu de photos. Et puis depuis ma question d'août 2012, il y a eu trop peu de demandes mais des discussions contradictoires sur les villes.

D'autre part un problème est apparu pour certains en faisant des modifications de VC existant. J'ai peur de tout perdre, il faudra que je tente.

Je ne sais pas si les échanges de maisons sont faisables sur Rovaniemi. La population est celle d'une sous-prefecture rurale en France, c'est limité

Bern

Ally310 Regular ·2013-04-04

Et oui un voyage en chasse un autre... Plus grand chose à raconter ? ben dans le post "à venir" ya rien qui vient alors je suppose que si tu avais prévu ces rubriques, tu devais avoir des choses à dire ! Oui c'est vrai pas bcp de demandes et pourtant, ça doit être juste magnifique en été et puis tu sais, bcp lisent mais ne se font pas connaitre ou ne laisse pas de message.

Pour l'échange, ya effectivement pas beaucoup d'offres mais bon, ça c'est pas vraiment le problème, je voulais surtout savoir si justement arriver dans une sorte de souspref permettait quand même de rayonner et voir des trucs sympas. J'avais eu une demande d'une famille de Oulu une fois mais je vois que le paris-rovaniemi est moins cher que le paris-oulu et permet d'aller plus au nord en économisant du temps...

On ne peux pas modifier un message initial, c'est ça dont tu parles avec "VC" ?

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Mapi66 Regular ·2016-04-03

C est peut être un peu tard 3 ans après mais je suis intéressée par des info sur là Laponie en été. ..il y a trop, peu de poste sur le sujet

"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, je vous propose la routine...elle est mortelle" Paulo Coelho

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2016-04-03

Hi Marie Pierre

Qu'est-ce que je peux pour vous ? Préciser vos questions, j’essaierai de répondre

Bern

Elgar Regular ·2016-04-03

Bonsoir,

Quelques informations à voir sur mon site Internet de 2007 sous ma signature.

Vivien

Mes voyages nordiques : https://www.elgar.be

Mapi66 Regular ·2016-04-04

Merci beaucoup Vivien, je vais lire attentivement et je me permettrai de revenir vers vous pour des infos complémentaires si besoin.

"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, je vous propose la routine...elle est mortelle" Paulo Coelho

Mapi66 Regular ·2016-04-04

bonjour Bern,

Je suis entrain de de faire un projet pour visiter d'abord la Finlande en été. Ce qui m'intéresse de passer 15 jours au Nord de Rovaniemi mais je ne sais pas encore où. Les activités qui m'intéressent sont liées à la nature et à l'immersion dans une culture.

Concernant l'avion, je constate que les VFistes prennent souvent des vols pour Rovaniemi et je me demande pourquoi pas sur Ivalo?

Je pense louer une voiture, convient il mieux de faire un circuit ou bien de rayonner autour d'un point de chute..

Merci à tous pour vos futures suggestions et idées

"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, je vous propose la routine...elle est mortelle" Paulo Coelho

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2016-04-04

Mon dernier voyage en 2011 était en avion par Helsinki avec une liaison low coast sur Rovaniemi - je ne me souviens pas avoir vu vers Ivalo un vol comparable. En tout cas Rovaniemi offrira plus de choix pour louer une voiture.

Questions très importantes : quelles dates ? quel mode de logement ?

Bern

Mapi66 Regular ·2016-04-04

En juillet 2017, pour le logement une location de chalet ou chambre d'hotes, je ne sais pas si ce mode d'hébergement existe là bas.

"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, je vous propose la routine...elle est mortelle" Paulo Coelho

Zitounet Globetrotter ·2016-04-04

Ok, juillet pas de pb de temps en Laponie, il peut même faire chaud

Les chambres d'hôtes (ou B&B) en Finlande, je ne connais pas mais ça s'est peut-être développé. Les chalets privés se louent à la semaine en général, ceux sur les campings à la nuit. En juillet il est pas inutile de réserver dans des endroits comme Inari ou Ivalo.

bern

Mapi66 Regular ·2016-04-04

Merci beaucoup pour la réponse.

Quels endroits me conseillerez vous pour se poser ?

Peut être réserver 1 semaine à un endroit et une autre ailleurs.

"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, je vous propose la routine...elle est mortelle" Paulo Coelho

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Pre-book or play it by ear? Only two stops were a leap into the unknown.

To help me find the ideal route, I made great use of this forum (thanks to everyone for patiently answering my questions!), pored over travel journals and blogs (Christian, Jeff), zoomed in on Google Maps and Yandex, and bought the guide published by OunTravela on this destination (the guide has been updated since).

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You’ve got your passport, international driver’s license, bank cards, and euros?

Off we go to Lyon—just one night left before our early morning flight.

Tomorrow night, we’ll be sleeping in Bishkek! (‘Beefsteak’ for my partner’s mischievous nephews...)

You’ll find here a post with some practical info.

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Montagnard74 yesterday

Turkey 2026: Riviera, Antalya, and Cappadocia

Hi everyone!

If you're looking for great tips and offbeat spots, if you love exploring uncharted parts of a country, if the exotic is your adrenaline, then move along!

Our 15 days in early May in this part of Turkey (a country I first discovered during a city trip to Istanbul in 2017) will only tread well-worn paths and revisit popular routes. Simply because I kept hoping until the very end that our flight to Jordan wouldn’t be canceled. Events in the Gulf proved me wrong, so we left with: Zero preparation. Not a single hotel booked (well, except the first one), no visits planned, just a flight ticket bought three weeks earlier. No guidebook, no app—just the desire to explore southern Turkey and Cappadocia, whose images and the chance to stretch our legs had caught my eye.

Oh, wait—I did bring along a new guide: Gemini! Yes, my friends, generative AI was my chief advisor throughout the trip for sites to visit, accommodations, routes, and even restaurants! An experiment I wanted to try to form my own opinion on using this new technology. And what better way to test it than a Turkish getaway?

The verdict? You’ll have to wait for the trip recap to find out!

The main idea of the trip is also relaxation.

So, the plan is Antalya for a few days, the Turkish Riviera for a few more, Cappadocia as the highlight, and a return via Antalya to wrap up the trip. And it was all planned by AI!

So, if you're ready, fasten your seatbelts—cabin crew, doors to automatic and cross check—boarding for Turkey now!

A little sneak peek?

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RichardXI yesterday

Page à page sur le Chemin d’Assise – 1200 kms à pied

Préambule…

Juin 2024. En randonnant avec mon frère sur le GR 36 Tour du Morvan, j’aperçois de loin en loin d’étranges balises rectangulaires fixées au tronc des arbres. Sur un fond orange vif, un tau grec d’un noir intense surmonté d’une colombe blanche. C’est ma première rencontre avec le Chemin d’Assise… Le chemin de Saint-François : un itinéraire de pèlerinage reliant Vézelay en Bourgogne à Assise en Italie sur près de 1800 kms. Comme une évidence, j’ai tout de suite su que j’allais l’emprunter, tenter l’aventure en solitaire.

Les mois suivants j’ai parlé de mon projet à tout le monde, famille, amis, compagne. Avalanche de commentaires, peu ou prou toujours les mêmes mais différents selon les caractères et les expériences de vie de chacun. Mais au fond, tout pouvait se ramener à une seule question, légitime : pourquoi ?

Et les réponses ? Hésitantes, embarrassées, partielles, confuses même. Très vite je me suis rendu compte qu’elles n’étaient pas si faciles à trouver. Comme si mon projet ressemblait plus à un coup de tête, une sorte de caprice intime qu’à un dessein pensé et cohérent. Bien entendu je connaissais les raisons qui m’ont poussé à partir, puisqu’il faut toujours en donner. Les proches ont besoin de comprendre pour être rassuré, c’est compréhensible. Je crains cependant qu’en les rappelant, elles ne ressemblent au même catalogue que pourraient dresser celles et ceux qui entreprennent ce genre de périple. De toutes celles que je pourrais énumérer, j’en retiendrai qu’une ici : l’appel du chemin, de l’aventure en solitaire qui donne un puissant sentiment de liberté. Un peu comme la chèvre de M. Seguin, qui depuis son enclos confortable regarde avec envie l’horizon sans contrainte de la montagne. Mais si je voulais être honnête, je crois que je ne savais pas vraiment ce que je cherchais, ni surtout ce que j’allais trouver. Au fond, en y réfléchissant, un mot revient qui n’explique rien et tout à la fois : le désir.

A soixante ans largement passés je sais que, quand je me demande qui je suis, où je vais, deux choses me rendent pleinement à moi-même : la randonnée et l’écriture. Et mon intention était aussi d’ancrer cette aventure par les mots, au jour le jour. En écrivant chaque soir mes ressentis de la journée, mes émotions, mes découvertes, mes réflexions. Le fameux carnet de voyage qui ancre l’expérience quotidienne vécue dans la réalité. En découvrant l’application « polarstep » qui ne devait servir au début qu’à donner de mes nouvelles et rassurer mes proches, les informer de l’avancée de mon parcours, maintenir un lien, j’ai trouvé l’occasion de le faire mais un peu différemment qu’habituellement. Pas de notes écrites mises en forme de façon rétrospective au retour, mais une écriture spontanée, relatant tout ce qu’il m’était passé par la tête dans la journée et immédiatement publiée. Un voyage vécu, en direct.

Ce texte est la retranscription exacte de mes écrits quotidiens. En les relisant je n’ai rien touché, seulement corrigé quelques fautes, amélioré à la marge certaines maladresses de style. Des textes assez courts correspondant au format imposé par ce genre d’application. Ecrire en m’adressant aux autres.

Restait maintenant à marcher. 18 avril 2026 – Vézelay.

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Calisson94 2 days ago

Return to Swedish Lapland: Trek on the Kungsleden and Crossing the Sarek

After summer 2022 left me with a sense of unfinished business, here I am back in Swedish Lapland in summer 2024, ready to attempt the Sarek crossing again—and this time, to tackle part of the Kungsleden trail too.

After much hesitation, my companion Jean Marie and I decided to start with the Kungsleden, which is, from what we’ve read, stunning but very crowded (and it really is!!), and finish with the wilder option: Sarek! This park is known as Europe’s last true wilderness—sounds like a dream, right?! The downside of this choice is that there’s no way to resupply in Sarek, and the Kungsleden isn’t exactly set up for long treks either, so we’ll have to carry a lot of food for the first part with the Sarek in mind. Oh well, we’re motivated!

Our plan is to start in Abisko (classic), head to Vakkotavare (also classic, but with some variations to avoid the official route and the crowds), then continue the Kungsleden from Saltoluokta. Before Aktse, we’ll set off on an east-to-west crossing of Sarek (weather-dependent, since aside from the Skarja hut in the center of the park, there’s no shelter if conditions turn bad). But at least we’ll be on the right side of the park to climb Skierfe and enjoy the jaw-dropping view of Rappaladen if we have to bail on Sarek.

That adds up to 17 days of trekking, including 1 rest day + 1 buffer day for weather hiccups.

So if you’re interested, come follow our overstuffed backpacks!

08/03 - Abisko – 5km before Abiskojaure Some info (guides we used for prep, SFT map, sending food to Saltoluokta) 08/04 – 5km before Abiskojaure - on the east shore of Lake Alisjavri 08/05 – East shore of Lake Alisjavri – just before Tjaktja 08/06 – just before Tjaktja – above the Salka hut via Nallo 08/07 - Salka – just past Singi + round trip to Djalson Lake 08/08 - Singi – Teusajaure 08/09 - Teusajaure - Vakkotavare (end of the first section of the Kungsleden) 08/10 – rest day in Saltoluokta + round trip to the Sámi village of Pietjaure 08/11 – Saltoluokta – Sitojaure 08/12 - Sitojaure - Skierfe - Sarek or no Sarek? 08/13 – Skierfe – somewhere above Rapadalen Coming up: 08/13 – Somewhere above Rapadalen – Above the Skarki hut

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Fabhyène 2 days ago · Gaura

3 weeks in Laos, at a relaxed pace

This trip was in 2023, but when I wanted to write my travel journal, VF was still closed to contributions... Now that I’ve just finished my Japan travel journal here, I figured it was high time to pay tribute to this destination we fell in love with.

Disclaimer 1: This is a written travel journal. There’ll be text! Too much, for some! Disclaimer 2: This is an illustrated travel journal. There’ll be photos! Too many, for some!

I have to say, every time I try to discipline myself, to keep it shorter, to include fewer photos... I end up adding more. It feels like my dear Aunt Nicole, who exhausted us with her slide-show evenings in the 70s/80s, decided to get her revenge. The upside for you, readers, is that you can sneak away at any time without offending Aunt Nicole. I won’t even notice!

Anyway, since I like maps, here’s one to give you an idea of where I’m taking you. As you can see, we only saw a tiny part of Laos (the areas circled in red); we only had 3 weeks for ourselves (my husband’s newly retired, I’m still working), and we prefer taking our time over rushing around like crazy.

In broad strokes, it was very classic:

We first “settled in” in Luang Prabang (8 days), because we wanted and needed to. From there, we took three days to venture a little further north—not far in kilometers, but as we know, distances aren’t just measured in km! Then we flew south to Paksé, letting ourselves drift down to the 4,000 Islands while stopping at the pre-Angkorian archaeological sites. We finished with the Bolaven Plateau.

A few practical tips: We arrived via Bangkok, then took a Bangkok-Luang Prabang flight, having collected our luggage in Bangkok to check it in for Luang Prabang. No issues—the Bangkok airport, which many of you know, is very well organized. We got our visas on arrival in Luang Prabang. It was quick, but we were on a “small” plane, and the big flights had arrived earlier, so we weren’t too many in line! At the end of our trip, we didn’t leave from Paksé but from the nearby airport in Thailand, Ubon Ratchathani (a 2.5-hour drive from Paksé), for Bangkok and then Paris. You’ll notice we skipped Vientiane to stay longer in Luang Prabang. However, there’s now a high-speed train (TGV) between Vientiane and Luang Prabang—good to know—and soon the (Chinese) train will go all the way to Bangkok and even Kuala Lumpur!

With that introduction out of the way, let’s dive into the heart of the matter. To be continued: Slowing down the pace... in Luang Prabang

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Caroki 2 days ago

Three weeks in Albania with two older teens

We went to Albania in August 2025. Our itinerary included adventure (sporty activities, site visits), naps on the beach interspersed with swims, incredible natural sites, and a bit of culture.

I booked all our accommodations on Booking.com. Note: almost all places ask to be paid in cash!! You can obviously withdraw from banks, but the fees are pretty high. Luckily, we had plenty of cash, and the country is very safe. You can pay in euros most of the time, which avoids exchange fees. We started in Tirana. I’d read a really interesting post about Albania’s bunkers (link in my profile). We chose to visit Bunk’Art with a guide from the agency that wrote the post. It was fascinating—not only to better understand the country’s history but also because her grandfather was repressed by the regime, and she shared her family’s experience with us.

Bunkers are everywhere! In Tirana, Bunk’Art is the most interesting and largest. You’ll see the dictator Enver Hoxha’s office, where he would’ve taken refuge in case of an attack on the country. Bring a sweater—it’s really cold in the underground tunnels and their huge corridors. You can visit other bunkers around the country, in Tirana and elsewhere. Almost all are just abandoned. The cable car up Mount Dajti is right next to Bunk’Art. The view is stunning—you realize Tirana is so close to the mountains and the sea... But otherwise, it’s not that exciting for older teens (17 and 19) and their parents. We picked up a rental car in Tirana—it’d be ours for the next three weeks. We used Goalbania’s agency to avoid any hassles. First, there aren’t many cars available in Albania in summer. Second, French credit cards can be a nightmare abroad. So we preferred to sort that out in advance. After Tirana, we headed to Permet. Just a heads-up: the roads are in great condition except in the mountains. And Albanian drivers aren’t stressful to deal with. Though you might suddenly encounter a herd of goats crossing the road—haha—but if you’re not going too fast, it’s fine. In Permet, I’d been dreaming of rafting on the Vjosa, one of Europe’s last wild rivers. And we did it with a local agency! It’s beautiful, accessible to everyone, not too physical but still a bit lively—just how we like it. You can even jump into the river in some spots. In Permet, we also hiked through a canyon and visited a lovely little church.

And we took a workshop to make their local culinary pride: gliko. It’s a jam with whole fruits inside. We’d seen it on Goalbania’s site, and it was really fun. We were with a family where the secret to making gliko has been passed down for generations... Next, we headed to Gjirokastër. A city we loved: its old traditional houses (Skendulli and Zekate), its grand castle, the Ali Pasha Bridge. Along the way, we stopped for artisanal ice cream at a little shop run by a grandmother who’s been making it herself for ages.

One afternoon, my husband *had* to go to the coast in the south, to Ksamil (he’d read it was better than Sarandë). Verdict: we didn’t like it. Parking is a nightmare, the beaches are super noisy and crowded. The sea is packed with jet skis, boats, pedalos, and ropes. Avoid it.

On the other hand, we really liked Himarë, where we went next. We stayed at a campsite where we rented tents with mattresses and sheets inside. Right by the sea, on a low cliff (about 2 meters high). You can hear the waves at night... Magical!! To swim, you either jump straight into the sea (almost from the tent) or climb down a ladder, which you’ll need to climb back up to get out.

I was a little worried the campsite wouldn’t be very comfortable, so afterward, I’d booked a small place in Gjilek. Turns out, the place was really tiny (one room for four, no kitchen) and pretty expensive (over 100 € a night). We’d drive to the beach or restaurants—it’s on a steep slope, so not very accessible. Parking near the sea is tricky. But the (private) beaches were nice—we’d rent an umbrella not too close to the music and spend the day there. We also went to a wilder beach, harder to reach, via a long path. Behind the beach, there’s an amazing canyon where we’d sometimes climb using ropes (already in place, no need to bring your own) over big boulders rolled around by the stream, which must swell a lot in spring. So, the sea in Albania: it’s nice if you like swimming and relaxing, but it’s not the most interesting part of the country. There are so many other amazing things to see and discover—so many stunning sites! Maybe an agency could’ve helped us find more practical accommodations and avoid Ksamil and its surroundings. We left the coast to head to the beautiful city of Berat and its "thousand windows." We explored the city, its fortress, and its icon museum.

Then we discovered the Osum Canyon—it’s incredible. The view from the top is breathtaking. And at the bottom, it’s magical. There’s little water in summer, so rafting isn’t an option. We weren’t tempted by the big-tube descent offered by an agency—it looked fun, but the group had 40 people. We preferred hiking on our own as a family of four. We scouted the area on Google Maps... and found where to descend. We walked in the water, then it rose to our waists, then our shoulders... We weren’t moving fast. And how to get back up?? Eventually, we followed a group with a guide—the path was hard to find.

After that unforgettable hike, we visited the Bogovë Waterfalls. It’s pretty, and we swam, but the water was *really* cold. We passed through Tirana again and then headed to Shkodër. We explored a bit—its charming little streets, the Rozafa Fortress. There’s a tiny museum where you can see *huge* Ottoman stone cannonballs. And they tell you the (charming) story of the young woman who was walled alive in the castle’s foundations to ensure its strength... Shkodër is mostly a stopover to head into the mountains and discover Theth. Our goal: hiking in the Valbona Valley, from Valbona to Theth. We organized the trip ourselves, without an agency, but it took some time to figure everything out. So I’ll save you the trouble—haha. Book your tickets on the Komanilakeferry website. The ticket includes: 🙂 minibus transfer from downtown Shkodër to Koman 🙂 ferry ticket from Koman to Fierze. This ferry ride is *gorgeous*—between mountain slopes covered in pine trees, and sometimes a little house with a few fields...

🙂 minibus ticket from Fierze to Valbona. Now you’re in the mountains! The minibus drops you off near your accommodation—pick one as close as possible to the start of the hike (if that’s your goal!). The ones at the far end of the village add up to 1.5 hours of walking. Our choice: Guesthouse Dioni. The host is really lovely, it’s in the woods, and it’s basic but great. After a day of hiking, we arrived in Theth. What beautiful mountains! Then we explored Theth and the surrounding area. It’s pretty busy, but you can still enjoy the Blue Eye of Theth and its swim. It’s *so* cold! But so beautiful!

🙂 minibus ticket from Theth back to Shkodër. After a night in Shkodër, we drove to Kepi i Rodonit. A guidebook (I forget which one) raved about its beauty. And it *is* beautiful!

But the view is ruined by plastic bottles and other trash in the bushes, along the paths, and of course on the beaches. The only peaceful spot: the private beach at Kepi i Rodonit, which is cleaned. You can rent an umbrella and have lunch there. That’s where we spent our last few days—very relaxing. In short... Albania turned out to be perfect for us and our teens!

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Attila 2 days ago · ReneVoyageur

Albania in Autumn Colors

A new work assignment means our vacation dates can't stay the same.

We had planned to go to the Canary Islands, but flight prices are skyrocketing with this new holiday schedule.

So, I’m looking for an alternative to Gran Canaria and El Hierro and found two round-trip flights with Wizz Air to Tirana.

398 €, including baggage and seats—perfect!

Plus, the departure and return times are great, which is pretty rare for a low-cost flight!

All that’s left is to rent a car, plan the route, and book accommodations.

With two weeks, we’ll have to make some choices!

Here’s the final itinerary: Shkodra (2 nights), Valbonë (3 nights), Tirana (1 night), Lake Ohrid (1 night), Korçë (1 night), Përmet (1 night), Gjirokastër (1 night), Himarë (2 nights), Berat (2 nights), and Krujë (1 night).

A mix of countryside and small towns, a bit of the Mediterranean, and some mountains!

Late October isn’t the best season, so let’s keep our fingers crossed for the rest...

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6cha38 3 days ago

Our family trip from Denver to Yellowstone – a recap

Hi there,

I’m diving into a recap of our loop—pretty classic, really—Denver-Yellowstone-Denver this past summer, from July 24 to August 17. Given the sheer number of trip reports already out there (or in the works), and since I don’t have the writing chops or the photography skills of many of you, I’ll keep it practical—well, I’ll try, at least—to share our take on some of the less-visited parks and spots.

First off, a huge thank you to everyone whose trip reports, blogs, websites, comments, and more helped us put together this itinerary. Looking back, it could’ve been even better optimized: a few disappointments when we missed out on some great discoveries, often because we were short on time. Plenty of reasons to come back to the area!

We’re traveling with our four (almost) teens—18, 16, 14, and nearly 12 years old. To keep the trip enjoyable for everyone, we had to make compromises on both sides: cutting a visit short to spend more time swimming, waking up at dawn, and so on. But logistics also played a big role—things like laundry, grocery shopping, and keeping luggage organized could’ve quickly become time-consuming without a little planning. And honestly, I think we visited every Walmart along the way! Blame it on the lack of fridges in some accommodations and, more importantly, the *very* limited space in the car, which made it impossible to bring a proper cooler. I’ll come back to the car saga later.

For accommodations, this year we alternated between basic cabins in KOA campgrounds and Yellowstone (when staying more than one night in the same place) and hotels. Always with a pool (except in Yellowstone, of course), which let the kids burn off energy—because they always have reserves, even after packed days!—and, let’s be honest, gave us a chance to relax. No Wi-Fi issues either; we all had plans with 25 GB of data (a big thanks to Gilles for the amazing deal at 0.99 €). It worked perfectly, even for texts and calls between phones—no extra charges.

Now, onto our route: as I mentioned, a classic Denver-Yellowstone-Denver loop. To avoid rushing through the parks or spending all our time on the road, we prioritized staying as close to them as possible, with at least two nights in each place. And I’ve got to say, it’s really nice to settle in, even if it’s just for two nights. It also helped us deal with the weather, which wasn’t always great during this trip. The trade-off? With vacation time being limited, some driving days ended up being long. We knew that going in, but since we kept a relaxed pace with no time constraints (don’t ask me for timings—I don’t keep track of the clock on vacation, except in the morning to get everyone up before noon!), we sometimes ended up with marathon days.

With that said, I’ll dive into the trip itself in the next post.

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Fabhyène 3 days ago

Draw Me Your Japan...

Hi there!

I’m inviting you on a stroll through my drawings—a completely subjective, far-from-exhaustive, and totally personal take, since it’s based on my own sketches. I put this travel journal together after returning in late 2024, mostly using felt-tip pens and pencils, with a few collages thrown in. I worked from our personal photos.

Let’s start with the shotengai...

Our first "wow" moment came as we stepped out of the subway in Asakusa, the Tokyo neighborhood where we’d booked our hotel for our first five nights. Exhausted after our long flight, we finally arrived and took an exit that led straight into a shotengai—one of those covered shopping streets that dot city centers and flourished between the 1950s and 1980s.

It was an instant aesthetic shock, like a close encounter of the third kind between the modern city, a typical Asian market with its street stalls, the "vintage" vibe of the arcade, the sheer abundance of goods, and the bustling crowd—a colorful mix of tourists, pilgrims (thanks to the nearby Asakusa Temple), and locals (it’s a very working-class area). In the end, it set the tone for a feeling we’d experience throughout the trip. Wherever we went, shotengai turned out to be fantastic spots for finding little restaurants, shops, or even fresh produce. Some are real mazes, like in Kyoto, where we spent ages trying to relocate a restaurant we’d loved ;-)

In Kanazawa, the Omicho Market:

And in Kyoto, the Nishiki Market:

To be continued...

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Attila 5 days ago

Storm in the Canary Islands

15 days across Gran Canaria, El Hierro, and a dash of Tenerife under the storm Thérèse!

The planned itinerary will be slightly disrupted...

(The version without discussions is here)

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Bibouns51 last week

Off on a winter adventure in the American West!

Day 1 – February 14

We all have two lives. And the second one kicks off the day you realize you only have one, with the determination to spend the time you have left on what truly adds sparkle to your life, Kevin! I like to elegantly introduce a trip with a philosophical quote. First, it gives you the illusion that I’m some kind of deep thinker, and second, it lets me fill up the first few lines of my blank page when I don’t know how to tell you I’m diving back into what really lights up my life: another adventure beyond the horizon! And nearly every other year, like a toxic relationship, my horizon tends to take shape in Uncle Sam’s backyard. And this, despite his cousin Donald calling the shots. Speaking of which, it was partly that impulsive guy who pushed us to be just as impulsive and snag our four flight tickets at a ridiculously low price—a direct result of foreign tourism taking a hit from BetaMax’s repeated antics... Four tickets? Who are the other lucky ones? In this case, our lucky ones are actually lucky ladies: My Flo, always up for exploring the world with me on foot, camelback, or scooter, is obviously in on the fun. The other two seats went to our daughters, Sasha and Luna, both thrilled to be part of this new American adventure...

But what’s the American West like in February?... A gamble. Let’s call it Russian roulette since we’re not landing during peak weather season. That’s why we encouraged our transportation and accommodation to get cozy and produce a little camper van, so we can stay ultra-flexible in the face of any weather tantrums. We’ll be roaming in Kara the van with the motto "Follow the sun!" Bad weather? We bolt. Snow? We speed up. Sunny? We act like it was the plan all along and soak it up.

"Okay, but why keep coming back to the same corner of the globe? After ten American adventures, you must be tired of seeing the same things, right?" But I’m not crazy, you know!... The American West is like making love to your gorgeous wife over and over, always enjoying it just as much. And contrary to what you might think, the American West isn’t just the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Las Vegas, and Bryce Canyon. Proof is, after ten trips to the U.S., my retinas are still untouched by three-quarters of the places I scribbled on a napkin for this adventure... Oh, and add to that my wife, who I’ve easily converted to my religion, and boom... relapse is even easier! Because yes, we’ve landed in Los Angeles after a sunny flight over Greenland, still under Danish flag for now. And we’re already heading east through the XXL traffic of L.A.’s eight-lane highways, eager to dive into our first discoveries. But first, night is taking over the sky, and second, we’ve been officially awake for 24 hours, so I suggest wrapping up this intro. I’ll tell you more tomorrow morning. Sound good?

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Montagnard74 last week

CAPE VERDE 2025: 3 weeks, 4 islands.

And we still haven’t seen everything! Before setting off for new horizons at the end of this year, it’s time for me to share my trip to Cape Verde this summer 2025.

I particularly love these spontaneous trips, and our stay in Cape Verde is one of those because it was only at the beginning of April that we decided on this getaway, which had been catching our eye for a while, given our love for the mountains.

As always—well, when it’s open—I turned to VF, and I want to immediately thank Marie, aka ptitortue, who helped me a lot in planning this trip through her travel journals and our exchanges!

Because Cape Verde is both small and vast! We decided not to rush from one airport to another, to enjoy the places and the people, but also to relax, since the work backlog from being stuck in May (see my previous travel journal 😅) had to be caught up on in June.

So, 4 islands will be our winners from 06/28 to 07/19:

Santiago first for logistical reasons, as round-trip flights from the capital Praia were the cheapest (650 €/person from Lyon via Lisbon with TAP, still!)

São Vicente, because it’s the gateway to the next one but ultimately more than that...

Santo Antão, pretty much the main goal of the trip since Marie (and the photos) had really sold it to me.

And finally, Sal Island, for some rest—a non-negotiable condition for my other half—and we’ll see that I should’ve listened to Marie...

That said, what a chatterbox I am—buckle up, flight attendants at the doors, off we go on new beautiful escapes! (Thanks to Sophie for the easy loan)

Last note for my eager fan club 😏: yes, there will be alcohol—how could there not be in the land of grogue!

It starts here:

https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10790234;a=10790234

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Songsam last week

Far from the daily grind*

Hello, Since I enjoy not only the countryside but also everything related to rail travel, I’m starting this photo thread dedicated to trains in Thailand (I’d guess most of us have taken one at some point...). Feel free to post your pictures here as long as they fit the theme: rolling stock**, stations**, platforms, tracks (even without a train on them), technical equipment, engineering structures (bridges, viaducts), etc.—all in Thailand. For each photo, I’ll (or you can) note the station or line where it was taken. Comments and questions are welcome.

* train ** interiors or exteriors

All aboard!

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Jojoone1 last week

From the Awakening to Travel to Morocco in the 90s

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I inherited my love of travel from my parents and some of my grandparents. A strong passion, but one that was unfortunately limited by our family’s modest resources. Back then, living in northern Alsace, a simple trip to the southern part of the region—with the Wine Route as our destination—felt like an extraordinary journey to a land of plenty for the little boy I was in the late 60s and early 70s. Everything seemed so huge when you were still just a kid. Back then, I was overwhelmed by countless sensations—I was already highly sensitive, with a keen mind and a nose and taste buds that were developing like a pro’s. Which, as I’d later realize, wasn’t always an advantage.

Those magical days always began with a gentle late-spring or midsummer morning. The interior of the white Peugeot 404, license plate 210 LZ 67, had already soaked up the sun before the engine purred to life, and the cabin gave off a scent I could still recognize today—a fragrance I found so pleasant. Back then, I had no idea it was just the smell of warm plastic from the car’s interior. Yes, the scents of the 404 on sunny days became my madeleine de Proust... What’s more, the whole family was unusually cheerful because those moments of relaxation and leisure were rare. Everyone worked, and no one had an easy job or was well paid. Without the *Trente Glorieuses*, these experiences might never have happened.

Once we crossed the canton’s borders, I felt like I was light-years away from my everyday surroundings, and every kilometer plunged me deeper into *terra incognita*. It was thrilling. Far from my so-called "medium-sized" town, wheat fields, cornfields, and cabbage patches stretched out, punctuated by tall poles connected by long wires and topped with vegetation—like giant clotheslines without laundry, where magical beanstalks might grow to touch the sky. Back then, I was still far from tasting their product, which was simply beer. At the time, there was still a significant local hop production. Fun fact: it wasn’t until 2002 that Anglo-Saxon scientists proved hops and cannabis belong to the same biological family.

After the fields, the landscape took another step up as it rolled past the little boy’s eyes, often glued to the windows. First came modest hills, then a succession of rolling slopes that soon formed an unbroken chain. Their 700 meters in altitude felt like Himalayan peaks to me—impressive, inert giants, a whole new world. Gazing at them, an intense emotion welled up somewhere between my stomach and lungs, nearly taking my breath away. What mysteries, what treasures did these heights hold? And then there were the cherries on top—the crowning touch that made the scene even more magical: proud, majestic castles perched on the summits like impassive sentinels. Monuments from the past, yet firmly rooted in the present on their rocky spurs. The little boy’s eyes sparkled—he’d been given a castle for Christmas, complete with battlements, towers, a drawbridge, and fully armed knights. He’d watched and lived *Ivanhoe* on the only French TV channel that existed back then.

Only once did my paternal grandfather join us on one of these trips. A tall, intelligent man with a face that could shift from stern to mischievous, clearly full of humor and charisma. Sadly, his relationship with alcohol had taken a toll on his life and, by extension, those of his loved ones. He had a strong personality—if his boss crossed the line, he wouldn’t hesitate to punch him, which meant he went through a lot of different jobs. Back then, you could quit one job and easily find another. It was quite something to see him in his final stages, hallucinating pink elephants and even drinking perfume when he had nothing else left. The last time I saw him, he’d slipped away from the doctors and nurses while hospitalized in pretty bad shape—at least, I assume his liver was the issue. We were sitting down for a family lunch when the door burst open, and there he stood in his pajamas, eyes twinkling with mischief, clearly pleased with the dramatic entrance. That theatrical moment didn’t spare us from burying him a few months later at the age of 71. One day, my mother told me the family doctor had quietly remarked that it was a shame—with his robust constitution, he could’ve lived to be a hundred. Yes, the family doctor—this was the man who’d come treat you any day, at almost any hour, just for a phone call. It really existed, it’s not a myth!

That day, his wife—my paternal grandmother—was also along for the ride. Everyone agreed that Jeannette was a good woman. She worked as a waitress at *Le Tigre*, the biggest brasserie in town, right in the center. Most customers preferred to be served by her, including local dignitaries and even the mayor. As a kid, I didn’t find her very fun, open, or warm—she seemed a bit stern. Back then, women in their fifties already had the face and build of grandmothers. Same went for men, don’t get me wrong. I had no idea about the struggles she faced because of her husband. I didn’t know that 30 years earlier, she’d had to flee Alsace while pregnant, under threat from Nazi fighter-bombers. I didn’t know she’d had several miscarriages, and that my father—her only surviving child, born prematurely in March 1940 at the other end of France—weighed less than a kilo at birth and was so tiny he could fit in a shoebox. Hard to imagine he’d grow into a strapping man nearly 1.80 meters tall, tipping the scales at 100 kilos. When you come back from summer camp in early August and ask why she didn’t pick you up with your parents, and they gently tell you she’s "in heaven," you don’t realize she passed away at 54 after suffering greatly from stomach cancer that had spread.

Back to that family outing, that enchanted parenthesis. I even remembered where we’d had lunch when I passed through Dambach-la-Ville decades later. One of those charming, flower-filled towns Alsace produces in abundance—and preserves so well. This one sits high on a hill, and I was a bit stunned on the parking lot because the view stretched far, revealing the Alsace plain below—its fields, villages, hills, and forests. The world seemed so vast and enticing that day, even though I was only glimpsing a tiny fraction of it.

The region was already very touristy, but I wouldn’t notice the downsides until much later. That Sunday noon, I discovered a large restaurant filled with diners. I can still see the enormous piece of meat they served me, decorated with a little wooden skewer topped with a flag. I kept that one for a long time. Those were the golden days of rich, flowing, thick sauces—so flavorful—and the era of the world’s best fries, made on the spot with the best potatoes. To top it off, I was *exceptionally* allowed a small bottle of apple juice, Orangina, or—even better if possible—Sinalco. Yes, Sinalco—like Orangina, but better. A brand that must’ve disappeared in the 70s, but why, and what a shame! Since then, Orangina’s little bubbles have taken the brand to the other side of the planet—it’s now Japanese.

Year after year, I’d eagerly await that ecstatic moment when the most beautiful castle in Alsace, the Haut-Koenigsbourg, appeared in my field of vision. The perfect model, the archetype that blended into the landscape at the height of a child’s dreams. The trip home always felt like a reality check—less jarring than an alarm clock, but more diffuse and melancholic. From then on, there was only one wish: *When do we leave again?*

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Elis last week · Djalma

9-Day Trek in the Balkans

Hi there, Here’s a recap of a trek through the Balkans covering three countries: Albania, Montenegro, and Kosovo. I was with a friend, and we didn’t do the full route (only one day in Kosovo). It was a wonderful trek through snow-capped mountains and vast flower-filled meadows, meeting incredibly welcoming people. At the end of the travel journal, I’ll share what I loved and what I liked less.

Day 1: Flight from Paris-Beauvais to Tirana with Wizz Air.

Since Albania isn’t part of Europe when it comes to phone service (at least not yet! :-)), we had to buy a physical SIM card—otherwise, the bill would’ve been sky-high if we’d used our French plan! We got one from Vodafone AL at the airport. You can buy online before leaving with a virtual SIM (e-SIM) for compatible phones, so you don’t have to swap cards. But given the uncertainty about choosing a plan online, we preferred buying one directly at Tirana Airport. Cost: 31 € for 100 GB. That’s way too much—100 GB is overkill. For 40 GB, it’s 27 €, and the plan lasts 21 days. The price difference isn’t huge, and it was cheaper than online. This plan covers all the countries along the Balkan range. Money tip: All guesthouses and accommodations accept euros. The local currency in Albania is the LEK. In Montenegro, it’s the euro. Bank fees for withdrawing money from an ATM in Albania are pretty steep: 8 € for a withdrawal of 600–700 LEK (about 200 €)! So it’s better to withdraw cash (euros) in France. Oh, and we booked all our accommodations before leaving, but payment is always in cash. Budget around 400–500 € for 9 days of trekking.

Then, a transfer the same day to Shköder, about a 2-hour bus ride. Cost: 10 € per person. Tickets bought directly on the bus. We spent the night in Shköder at a very clean guesthouse, Open Doors B&B. It had a small balcony overlooking the city.

I really liked Shköder, especially its pedestrian street lined with restaurants and lit up at night. It’s a great place to stroll and eat. The food isn’t expensive—two big salads and two beers: 14 € :-) . Fruit prices are also very reasonable: 3 € for a kilo of cherries, compared to 9–10 € in France. Religions coexist peacefully in these countries—Catholics and Muslims. From our balcony, my friend heard the call to prayer for the first time, coming from one of the city’s mosques.

Day 2: Bus ride to Theth, about 1,100 meters in elevation gain, the starting point for our hike the next day.

The trip took 2 hours and 40 minutes with a break in the middle. The bus was affordable, but taxis also make the trip—though they’re very expensive.

We slept in the heights of Theth at a new guesthouse, "Mountain Vista Shkafi," with an amazing view.

The family was adorable. The husband is a handyman and built almost everything himself. Their baby is named "Sky"—such a cute name, right? :-) Throughout the trek, I found the guesthouses very clean, and the hosts think of everything—no need to bring soap or shampoo; they provide it. Lunch in Theth at a traditional restaurant on the main road. We tried "Tave Dheu," an Albanian dish with beef, cabbage (very common), and cottage cheese. Delicious but not quite filling enough. For dessert, a honey cake that was perfectly moist—such a treat! Desserts like this are rare; sometimes they serve watermelon instead. We took a small private bus for 5 € to the "Blue Eye" parking lot, then walked for about 45 minutes to reach a stunning natural site—a kind of lagoon with incredibly blue water. The bravest can swim, but the water’s freezing!

That evening, we dined at "La Montagne Blanche"—excellent! A delightful mix of grilled meats with potatoes and grilled peppers. Some watermelon slices (which I’m not a fan of) and the famous Raki, a brandy served in Turkey and the Balkans! It was my first time drinking brandy "bottoms up." 😉

To be continued... 😉

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DrCarter last week · Djackx67

Two-week family trip to Colombia in August with 8-year-olds

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share my family trip to Colombia with kids aged 8. After spending hours browsing the forum and only having two weeks there, we decided to focus on two regions: the Coffee Zone for one week and the Caribbean coast for another. We traveled from August 8 to 23.

Day 1 – First stop: Bogotá

We arrived in Bogotá in the evening on an Air France flight—nothing to complain about, decent service, comfortable, and on time. However, the first night was a miss. We’d booked a hotel near the airport (Abitel Prime) for convenience, but the soundproofing was almost nonexistent; we heard planes as if we were on the runway. Luckily, exhaustion helped us sleep well anyway.

Day 2 – Off to the Coffee Zone and Salento

The next morning, we headed to the airport for a domestic flight to Pereira with LATAM. No issues: punctual and efficient, and in 30 minutes, we landed in Pereira. The landing already set a different mood: lush valleys, endless plantations, and humid air. We picked up our rental car from Localiza. Unfortunately, the experience wasn’t smooth—the paperwork took forever, and the wait tested our patience. Finally free, we hit the road to Salento, one of Quindío’s gems. We arrived in the late afternoon and discovered a colorful village bustling with artisan shops and cafés. Our first stroll helped us soak in the atmosphere before dinner at Bambú restaurant—a great surprise with careful cooking and local flavors. We spent the night at Casa Serafín, a charming little hotel, nicely decorated and well-located… but unfortunately very noisy.

Day 3 – The magic of Cocora Valley

This was one of the trip’s highlights. We set off early for Cocora Valley, famous for its giant wax palms, Colombia’s emblem. We chose the 12 km loop recommended by the *Routard*. The landscapes were spectacular: towering palms, rivers, suspension bridges. It felt like walking through a postcard. The weather was perfect. That evening, we dined at Barnabé restaurant—pleasant setting, decent food, but the bill was a bit steep for what it was. Back to Casa Serafín.

Day 4 – Coffee and panoramic views

The plan was a visit to Finca El Ocaso. For 1.5 hours, we followed a passionate guide who explained the entire coffee process, from harvest to cup. Very educational, accessible for both kids and adults, all in a stunning setting. The tour was in English for us, and we translated for our kids, who aren’t bilingual yet. In the afternoon, we climbed to Salento’s viewpoint. The valley view was superb. That evening, we ate at Veggie Garden, a simple and pleasant spot that was a nice change from the heavier meals of previous days.

Day 5 – Horseback ride to Santa Rita Waterfall

We booked a horseback ride with Cocora Magic. It was a real success: calm horses, a beautiful trail, mountain and meadow landscapes, and finally the refreshing and wild Santa Rita Waterfall. Without a doubt, one of the best moments of our time in the region. We even got a bonus ride up a 300-meter hill. We then headed to Filandia, less known than Salento but just as charming. We spent the late afternoon enjoying the pool at MuchoSur Filandia. The hotel is beautiful, in an idyllic setting. However, we also had soundproofing issues and could hear our neighbors.

Day 6 – Rainy detour through Filandia and Manizales

Rain caught up with us in the early morning: torrents of water made it impossible to go out. We stayed at the hotel, reading quietly. By noon, the rain let up: a quick walk in Filandia, a quick lunch, then off to Manizales. We chose to stay at El Otoño hot springs. Great choice: as soon as we arrived, we plunged into the hot pools, perfect after hours on the road.

Day 7 – Hiking and hot springs

In the morning, we hiked the Camino de Super Coco (found somewhat randomly on Google). A pleasant trail with mountain views and a peaceful atmosphere. The afternoon was spent in the hotel’s thermal pools, with a short marked hike down to the river. Dinner on-site at the hot springs’ restaurant. A simple but very relaxing day.

Day 8 – Rain, jacuzzi, and games

We continued to Finca Los Alpes. The rain greeted us again, but this time it turned into an asset: nothing like a steaming jacuzzi with a view of the misty mountains. The kids enjoyed the facilities too: mini-golf, ping-pong, billiards. Dinner and night at the hotel, cozy vibes.

Day 9 – Off to the Caribbean coast

Back to the airport to return the car (still a bit long). Flight to Cartagena with Avianca: punctual and comfortable. Upon arrival, we picked up another car and headed straight to the Hyatt Regency, a modern hotel with a pool. That evening, we dined at the hotel—practical after a travel day.

Day 10 – Colonial Cartagena

We set off to explore Cartagena’s old town. It was enchanting: colorful facades, flowered balconies, colonial charm—just magical. However, the heat was stifling and very humid. Afternoon relaxation by the pool. Dinner at Gestlani, a good restaurant in town.

Day 11 – Road to Barú

A hearty breakfast, then one last swim in the pool before heading to Barú. We checked into Las Islas Hotel. The setting was enchanting: wooden cabins nestled in the vegetation, a private beach, turquoise sea, impeccable service. Dinner at the hotel’s restaurant.

Day 12 – Beach and relaxation

A full beach day in Barú. Warm water, white sand, coconut trees, peace and quiet. A real postcard scene with iguanas and birds.

Day 13 – On to Santa Marta

Another morning at the beach before hitting the road to Santa Marta. The drive was a bit long (6 hours), especially with traffic jams in Barranquilla. It was the longest car ride of the trip. We spent the night at Villa María Tayrona, a beautiful place near the park.

Day 14 – Tayrona Park

We left early for Tayrona Park. We entered through **El Zaino**, parked the car, and set off on a hike to La Piscina (about 2 hours). We stopped along the way at Playa Arenilla, a stunning little beach, to rest. Lunch on-site, a swim, then back by 4 PM. The hike was a bit tiring, but the nature was spectacular: dense jungle, the sound of waves, and even a monkey encounter along the way. Evening and dinner at the hotel.

Day 15 – Last swim and return flight to Bogotá

Our last morning was split between the pool and the beach (the hotel has direct access via a 7-minute trail through vegetation and flowers)—hard to leave this paradise. We drove to Santa Marta’s airport to return the car, then flew back to Bogotá. We spent the night at Casa Dann Carlton, a comfortable hotel. We simply ordered room service, arriving too late to go out.

Day 16 – Bogotá and the end of the trip

Our last day in Colombia. After a good breakfast, we explored La Candelaria. Its cobbled streets and colorful houses were worth the visit. We visited the Botero Museum (free) and the Gold Museum, both fascinating. Back to the airport for our 11:55 PM Air France flight.

That’s a wrap on a varied trip—lush mountains, colorful villages, dream beaches, and tropical jungle. The pace was pretty relaxed, well-suited for our kids. They absolutely loved the trip to Colombia. Driving in Colombia was very easy, and we didn’t regret renting a car at all—it gave us more freedom to get around.

If I were to do it again, here’s what I’d change: - I’d spend less time in the Coffee Zone to stay a bit longer on the Caribbean coast, which was more relaxing for the kids. Or I’d head to Medellín, but I didn’t think the city was very kid-friendly. - Bogotá is a city that deserves a day’s visit, but it’s not a must-see. Maybe I’d have taken the KLM flight from Cartagena to Amsterdam instead.

If you have any questions, don’t hesitate!

Antoine

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Holigirl last week · Solene40

South Africa in safari mode: February/March 2026

Hi everyone,

With my girlfriend Christelle, we’ve chosen South Africa for our first trip to Southern Africa, focusing on safaris—after a long debate with a Cape Town/Kruger combo. But that would’ve meant cutting out St Lucia, which would’ve been harder to fit into another trip. And St Lucia—thanks to Michel and all those travel journals—we really wanted to go there.

So our 11-night itinerary ended up like this, mostly shaped by school holidays: - 3 nights in St Lucia - 1 night in Hluhluwe - 1 night at Mkhaya Game Reserve (Eswatini) - 1 night at Hlane Royal National Park (Eswatini) - 3 nights in Kruger (Berg en Dal / Satara / Tamboti) - 1 night at Shindzela Tented Camp in the Timbavati private reserve - 1 final night in Kruger at Lower Sabie

All of this in the off-season and rainy season, just a month after catastrophic floods that killed over 150 people and seriously damaged Kruger’s infrastructure.

I’ll jump straight to St Lucia and skip the loooong journey to get there (with a layover in Frankfurt, landing in Johannesburg, a domestic flight to Durban, and the rest by rental SUV—First Car Rental, perfect, no complaints).

To motivate readers—especially some familiar faces here—I’ll drop in a first photo.

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Gaura last week · Fabhyène

Visiting Bologna in Photos

Since I didn’t have time to write a proper travel journal, I thought I’d share a few photos of Bologna—a really lovely city I discovered in 2017 while stopping on my way to Tuscany. Around Piazza Maggiore, which was packed with a stage and chairs for a show, stands the Basilica of San Petronio, massive and Gothic in style, with an unfinished façade (a common sight in Italy).

Another building near the square:

But Bologna’s real charm lies in its porticoes, which were added to the UNESCO World Heritage list in 2021: 62 km of arcades running along buildings, letting you walk sheltered from the sun or rain. Back in 1288, the city required houses to include private arcades for public use. In the city center, you can stroll under 32 km of porticoes in all sorts of styles—some plain, some ornate—with a strong presence of red tones.

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Muriel18 last week · Montagnard74

Two weeks under the Puglia sun

After a pretty disastrous weather-wise trip to Gran Canaria, we're hoping this time the sun will be out in Puglia. It’s not looking great since the weather isn’t great across Europe at the start of May.

Saturday, May 16: This time we’re flying from Charleroi (Brussels South): the ticket prices, flight schedules, and proximity all worked for us. The airport (Ryanair) was recently redone... but it’s not very well organized—there are very few seats in the boarding areas, and... the restrooms are pay-to-use!!! The flight goes smoothly, though, and we land in Bari with a slight delay.

We quickly pick up our rental car, a very locally styled Pandina (even more so than the Fiat 500 in this region), and hit the Italian (high)ways... and their unique driving quirks (notably, the countless road signs in towns and along roads seem to be purely decorative 😏, and Italian cars don’t have turn signals 😮... except for rental cars).

About an hour later, we arrive at our first accommodation, right in the middle of the countryside near Monopoli. The owner isn’t there, but they left us a ton of info via messages and even turned on the space heater, which is a nice touch. We check out the property:

And the next morning before breakfast, its immediate surroundings:

Sunday, May 17: After our "seaside" experience in Gran Canaria last weekend (packed with people and locals), we decide to start with the inland areas. After a hearty breakfast,

we head toward Alberobello, a super touristy village famous for its trulli—those stone houses with conical roofs. We easily find free parking on a street near the Aia Piccola district, where some trulli are still lived in year-round.

We almost immediately come across the Trullo Sovrano (the only two-story one), which you can visit (but we skip it—it’s opening time, and there’s already a line).

From there, we head down toward the Basilica of Cosma e Damiano... but we don’t go in because there’s a mass.

Now we’re on the main Piazza del Popolo, which connects the two districts of Alberobello: Rione Aia Piccola and Rione Monti, the more touristy one.

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Muriel18 last week

Gran Canaria... a trip that wasn't exactly thrilling

Okay, it wasn’t a total disaster either. Actually, I hesitated before starting this travel journal: is it even worth writing about a holiday that won’t leave an unforgettable memory? In the end, I went for it (there aren’t many recent travel journals about this destination). So, read on... or don’t .

Every time we’ve been to the Canary Islands, it’s been by default (basically: where can we go in winter or early spring when we only have a week—so not too far, not too much jet lag, but with decent weather?).

This time, we had two weeks, but the winter plan kept changing: first Thailand (dropped for personal reasons), then Martinique (dropped because of work leave dates that weren’t up to me), and finally, the Canary Islands.

We’ve already been to Tenerife (which we really liked) and Lanzarote (which we liked a little less). This year, two options: Gran Canaria or one of the smaller islands west of Tenerife (La Palma, or even La Gomera or El Hierro). We chose Gran Canaria... not sure it was the right call! Whose fault is it? Storm Thérèse’s! Yes, Storm Thérèse followed us on arrival, and its effects lasted quite a while. We had to adapt, cancel visits, change activities...

But even without Thérèse...

Saturday 21/03 Departure from Orly at 6:10 AM with Transavia. The plane took off on time and landed a little early, tossed around by strong winds before touching down. It had just rained, but it was (almost) no longer raining.

We quickly picked up our luggage and then the car at the Cicar counter. We got a Seat Arona instead of the Corsa we’d booked. Well, while the driving position didn’t feel great at first (I got used to it), the engine’s smoothness and power were much appreciated on the island’s winding and sometimes steep roads.

It was only 10 AM, and we couldn’t theoretically check into our accommodation until 3 PM (the owner promised to message me if it was ready earlier). So, we headed to the (big) *Jardín Botánico Viera y Clavijo*, where we planned to spend a few hours. We found a huge parking lot... empty. The passenger in the car in front of us (yes, we weren’t the only ones at the closed gate—there was a car in front and one behind) went to ask for info: it was closed due to the storm 😕. So, we calmly headed toward Puerto de las Nieves, on the northwest coast of the island.

The plan: go to a restaurant, visit the village, and do some shopping while waiting for early afternoon. As soon as we got out of the car, it started raining... we took shelter under the awning of a shop, waiting for it to pass. But the rain turned into a downpour, and within minutes, awning or not, Gore-Tex or not, we were soaked!

Since we were already wet, we might as well go to the restaurant—they weren’t far! But here’s the thing: contrary to what Google Maps said, they all opened at 1 PM, not noon! Back to the car, wading through 5 cm of water because all the village streets were flooded . The rain let up, we did some shopping, went to eat, and I got a message from the owner saying the accommodation was ready 🙂.

So, off we went to La Suerte, a few kilometers north of Agaete. The downside of the place, especially with luggage, is that you have to climb several flights of stairs via an outdoor staircase (after parking more or less far away on a steep street) to get there 😛). Of course, on the way from the car to the apartment, it started pouring again—the bags got soaked! Enough rain for today! We settled in quietly, and by late afternoon, we could (finally!) go admire the view from the terrace.

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Jcpo last week · AlineP

A Week in Lanzarote in Late September

Lanzarote Travel Journal

Trip Planning My partner and I are heading to the Canary Islands for a week at the end of September, specifically to Lanzarote. We chose this island over the more crowded ones for its volcanic landscape and the variety of hikes it offers. I booked everything through Expedia: our hotel stay, car rental, and Ryanair flight tickets departing from Marseille. It was the only way to get a direct flight. To make getting around easier during our stay, I picked a hotel located in the center of the island from the wide selection available. It’s part of the Barceló chain, specifically the "Barceló Teguise Beach Adults Only" in Teguise Beach, which turned out to be an excellent choice.

The Trip

Sunday, September 21 - Monday, September 22 Departure It’s 2:15 PM, and we’re at the Avignon TGV station. Danielle picked us up earlier due to the weather—thunderstorms and heavy rain all the way to the station. The TGV was on time, and it only took 30 minutes to reach Marseille Saint-Charles. The shuttle to the airport is quick and convenient, right behind the station. The bus leaves for the airport in the middle of the storm, with flooded roads and cars stuck in some spots. We get soaked making our way to the terminal. Two hours to wait before the flight. The plane finally takes off at midnight, but just before landing, the pilot announces that the destination airport is closed, and we’re being diverted to Tenerife. Ryanair will re-route us as soon as possible. We end up waiting 2 hours, and Ryanair kindly gives us a 4 € voucher. We re-board around 5:15 AM and take off at 6:00 AM. About 45 minutes to reach Lanzarote. After collecting our luggage, we head to the car rental desk. The counter in the terminal is closed, and we’re directed to parking lot P4—it takes us a while to find it. I’m a bit worried about the rental company’s reaction since the car was supposed to be picked up 7 hours earlier, but it’s not a problem. A woman next to us is furious because she’s in the same situation, and her rental was canceled. Anne-Marie translates for her, but nothing changes. We pick up a brand-new Toyota Aigo and head to the hotel. After checking in, we cross the garden, walking alongside the large pool to reach our room. A lovely first-floor room with a jacuzzi and a sea view. It’s early, so we head to breakfast—a generously stocked and varied buffet with everything you could want. Afterward, we drive to Cueva de los Verdes, but it’s packed with people and a long wait. We decide to come back another day. Next, we visit Mirador Del Rio. This rocky viewpoint at the edge of the island has breathtaking cliffs plunging 500 meters into the ocean. The view is stunning and impressive. A panoramic bar lets you cool off while enjoying the scenery. We return to the hotel for a short walk around the neighborhood and enjoy the beautiful pool with its pleasant water temperature. Relaxing by the pool, sun loungers, and all. In the evening, a very varied buffet at the restaurant. Then early to bed to recover from the sleepless night before.

Tuesday, September 23 After a restful night, we enjoy another varied and hearty breakfast. The terrace seating is very pleasant. We take an inland road leading to Timanfaya National Park. The road near the park runs alongside vineyards where the vines are surrounded by lava stone walls to protect them from the prevailing winds. Our first stop is at the visitor center, where the island’s volcanic activity is well-documented. Next, we stop at an area where you can take a short camel ride—two seats are installed on either side of the camel’s hump. This little ride offers a great view of the volcanic landscape from a higher vantage point. A fair price of 11 € per seat for a 20-minute ride. We then head to the park entrance via the road leading to the parking lot, where only authorized buses can take the winding route inside the park. It’s crowded, and we wait about 45 minutes with several stops before reaching the parking lot. We board the bus, and the route offers beautiful views of this volcanic area and its many craters. The journey is very interesting, with several stops for photos. At the parking lot, a guide shows us how the heat from the rocks beneath the surface can ignite dry vegetation. Water poured into holes in the ground immediately creates geysers and jets of steam. The building next to the parking lot has a restaurant where meat is cooked using the heat from a well dug into the volcanic rock. On our way back, we drive to Playa Blanca, a seaside town with a small sandy beach.

Back at the hotel in the late afternoon for dinner.

Wednesday, September 24 We wake up early and have a quick breakfast—few people are around at this hour. Two days ago, we booked a 10:00 AM visit to Los Verdes, lava tunnels created by eruptions and lava flows from the La Corona volcano, which extended all the way to the coast. When the lava came into contact with the air, it solidified on the surface while continuing to flow underneath. The lava tunnels stretch for 8 kilometers to the volcano, but we only walk one kilometer. The inside of the tunnel is impressive, with narrow passages and larger chambers. You can see traces left by the flowing liquid lava—varied colors and twisted shapes. At the end of the path, a large chamber has been turned into a concert hall with perfect acoustics. Next, we visit Jameo Del Agua. This is a continuation of the lava tunnel, developed by Manrique. There are beautifully designed bar and restaurant areas, as well as an underground lake where you can see small blind white crabs—a protected species in this very pure water. Higher up, there’s a lovely space with a central pool that could double as a swimming area, surrounded by beautifully designed white pathways that contrast with the blue water. Further on, you reach a large space inside the lava tunnel, set up as a performance hall with perfect acoustics. Stairs let you view this beautiful space from above. A gap in the lava landscape reveals the ocean on the horizon. We head back toward the village of Yé, at the foot of the La Corona volcano. A 160-meter walk from the church, a path crosses vineyard plots and then climbs to the top of the volcano’s crater in about 30 minutes. It’s the island’s highest volcano. When you reach the edge of the crater, you see how deep it is, with steep slopes inside forming a large circular opening. The place is breathtaking and awe-inspiring. We drive back to the hotel via a road that climbs quickly, offering a beautiful view of the island’s northern part.

Thursday, September 25 After another enjoyable and varied breakfast, we head to the center of the island toward the volcano park and stop at a roadside parking lot where a path leads to the Montana Cuervo volcano. This is a crater that opened on one side. During an eruption, an explosion created a breach in the crater. Huge blocks of rock were thrown dozens of meters away. The path goes through the breach and descends into the crater, allowing you to walk around it. It’s impressive, and you really feel small and fragile in this environment. The crater walls, with their different colors, highlight the rock formations. The crater is surrounded by a sea of lava with sharp, jagged rocks. You can walk around the outside of the crater, but it’s not very interesting. We then head to the west coast, stopping at a spot with a small green lake next to a beautiful black sand beach. Next, we stop at Salinas de Janubio, a lovely viewpoint overlooking the salt marshes with different water colors. A small shop sells various local products. We then head to the famous Papagayo beach. The road ends at a booth where they charge 3 € to continue. From here, the land is private, and you have to pay to drive down a 3-kilometer rocky dirt road. Quite a few cars are driving along it, kicking up clouds of dust. The car gets a dusty makeover. We arrive at a large parking area, with several paths leading to different small beaches. We go to Papagayo, a small blonde sand beach surrounded by red rocks. The beach slopes gently into the water, which is a pleasant temperature. The setting is charming and peaceful. We stay for a while before heading back to the hotel.

Friday, September 26 We start with a visit to the César Manrique Foundation in Tahiche. This was originally one of his homes. The modern construction spans several levels and is integrated into the lava flow, using the gaps to create living spaces. Large windows make the rooms bright and open to the scenery. The place is pleasant, with flower-filled gardens outside. It’s well worth a visit. Next, we drive to Las Grietas, where a path leads to a narrow crack in the volcanic rock, forming a tight passage where only one person can walk at a time. The passage isn’t very long, but progress is slow due to the endless selfies being taken here. We then stop at Casa Del Camposino, a renovated farm that houses several artisan shops. We taste a local wine recommended by a charming woman and buy two bottles of Lanzarote red wine on her advice. Now, we head to Tamara beach, a beautiful and wide beach at the foot of high cliffs. There are always great waves here, making it a surfer’s paradise. On the way back to the hotel, we stop at the cactus garden, César Manrique’s final creation. Designed with a great sense of aesthetics around an old windmill, it features 4,500 varieties of cacti in various shapes, all in a beautiful setting. We return to the hotel in the late afternoon for the evening.

Saturday, September 27 After another hearty breakfast, we head north to Haria. We stumble upon another of César Manrique’s homes, where he lived for a long time. This house is more traditional than the previous one but still has large, modern, and very pleasant rooms. At the back of the garden is his large studio, where he created his works. Next, we visit the craft market—this was our original plan. Various stalls offer local items, and it’s very crowded. No room at the café terraces to sit down. We then return to Famara beach for a long stay. There are always great waves here, much to the surfers’ delight. The water temperature is pleasant, and we enjoy it. On the way back to the hotel, we stop at a gas station to refill the car, which has been very fuel-efficient. Gas is also much cheaper here than in France—1.16 € per liter of SP95. We also wash the car, which was very dusty after the long dirt road to Papagayo beach. At the hotel, we enjoy a farewell cocktail before dinner.

Sunday, September 28 We spend the morning by the hotel pool before checking out at noon. For lunch, we go to a restaurant called "Dona Lola," near the hotel, with a terrace offering a view of the coast. We order tuna carpaccio, which is delicious. We then head to the airport, just 15 minutes away. We return the rental car and go to the airport. A long line to check in our luggage. The return flight is on time. A shuttle bus takes us to Saint-Charles station. We then head to our overnight rental. The boulevard slopes down, making it easier with the suitcases. The rental is between the old port and the train station. Once there, we pick up the keys and make one last effort to carry the luggage up to the third floor. The studio is nice, clean, and simply equipped—perfect for one night.

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Jojoone1 last week · Songsam

All Over Thailand

You can post your personal photos in the following thread: https://voyageforum.com/forum/quelque-part-en-thailande-d10655574/

This travel journal is therefore intended solely for my photos, to present a consistent style. All the shots were taken with a simple Samsung Galaxy smartphone and with whatever was at hand.

All stays combined, I’ve spent the equivalent of a year at most in Thailand, and I’m no great expert. However, after many trips, lots of reading on VoyageForum and other sites, and conversations with many locals as well as expats, my view of the country is becoming clearer, though it’s constantly evolving. You never stop discovering and learning.

I guess I wanted to deliver a puzzle, mainly for those who want to get an idea of the country here and for those who feel nostalgic about it. I don’t know if this minimalist sharing will interest anyone, but it’ll do me good to put it together. After so many months without traveling and then these other long months with VF closed, there’s plenty of material available.

There’ll be a mix of places, periods, and subjects, but it might well be intentional.

I suspect many Thais have dogs because they make excellent guardians for the home. Nothing better to deter burglars or to signal the presence of a snake. You’ll often see Thais tapping the top of their dog’s head, but don’t be fooled: it’s a sign of affection from them. Judging by the dogs’ reactions, they’re used to it.

Thailand is one of the countries on the planet where rabies is still present, so keep that in mind. It’s not just bites that can be dangerous, so don’t let just any dog lick you. Especially on a wound, of course. Even though dogs often fear humans—this dangerous and unpredictable predator—we still need to stay cautious. Be careful when walking into alleys because the dog will defend its master’s big yard. Be careful at night, and be careful when they’re in packs. It sometimes crosses our minds that Thailand isn’t all that made for walking around, and dogs are one of the reasons. That said, it’s not uncommon to see them chasing bikes or scooters. Cars, though? Much rarer—they’re too big.

It seems Thais prefer to give their dogs freedom by not locking them behind gates. Though sometimes the gate is closed, the little side door is wide open. Oh, and sometimes there’s no gate in front of the property, or it’s been full of holes for years.

You’ll often see dogs sleeping on the roadside, sometimes right on the road. When you approach, they move aside nonchalantly—or not at all. It’s less funny when they suddenly appear from thick vegetation, reminding visitors not to drive too fast. As a result, you’ll notice that dogs with injuries or missing legs aren’t that rare.

Since they believe in reincarnation and respect for all forms of life, they don’t chase dog packs away too much, and they don’t sterilize them enough. When you see a small pack roaming freely in the countryside, you think twice about running into them at the edge of a field. A darker side of this is that euthanasia isn’t often practiced. Twice, we saw dogs at death’s door in temples, enduring terrible suffering with no one to help. The image (and the smell) of one of them, agonizing and exuding the stench of death, still comes back to me sometimes.

Some of you may have seen the YouTube vlog of a French woman living in Phuket who was given a little pig by her Thai friends. The animal, well-fed, quickly became a happy and enormous beast with its own garden. Yet it didn’t take long for it to fall seriously ill and become incurable. In her video, the French woman described how difficult it was to find a vet willing to perform euthanasia.

You’ll often see bowls by the side of the road. Thais leave food and water there for stray cats and dogs. Overall, they have a big heart for animals.

If you ever pop into a shopping mall, you might see people pushing their small dogs in strollers. It’s not just for fun—these strollers are provided for customers to put their pets in, otherwise you can’t bring them inside. It looks a bit odd when you expect to see a baby.

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Puma2A 2 weeks ago

In MIKUMI and SELOUS, Southern Tanzania (June 2024)

Hi everyone,

I’m a newbie to this forum, passionate about wildlife, the landscapes of East Africa, and Tanzania in particular. This June 2024 trip/safari is our 7th visit to Tanzania and our 5th in the south, which has drawn us more than the north ever since we discovered it in 2015.

In 2024, the entrance fees for the reserves and services have gone up again since our last visit. I chose to return first to Mikumi Reserve, which was the very first one we visited in the south. Then, we’ll head to Selous (J. Nyerere N. P.) as usual. Initially, we wanted to spend 2/3 days on Mafia Island at the end of the trip, but it made the total cost too high, so we gave up... We usually go to Ruaha and Selous, but I wanted to mix it up a bit—also to save some money...

As for the timing, June is a new experience for us. I thought it might be interesting to come just after the lodges reopen... hoping for some great wildlife encounters??

The trip starts in Marseille with our first flight on Ethiopian Airlines to Addis Ababa, then continues to Dar es Salaam, where we’ll finally set foot on Tanzanian soil again.

In Addis... "our" A-350.

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After arriving in Dar, we spent one night at a hotel near the airport. The next morning, we headed to the domestic flights terminal, which hasn’t changed in years.

By mid-morning, we boarded a Cessna 208B Caravan with Safari Air Link, heading to the Kikoboga bush airstrip in Mikumi, which we reached 45 minutes later. Fun fact: the pilot was the same one as on our return flight two years ago.

Welcome on board:

Of course, a driver/guide team from our chosen lodge was waiting for us upon arrival:

I was surprised to see so many aircraft parked there... even twin-engine Embraer Brasilias?? As a fan of vintage planes, I loved it...

On the other hand, the light was incredibly harsh.....!! Our guides only speak English. We knew that in advance. In the south, it’s very rare to find someone who speaks French. This’ll force us to dig into our high school English memories... from 60 years ago... at least.

It’s noon, and we head toward the lodge. Near the airstrip, next to the Mikumi rangers’ base, there are quite a few herbivores. They find a bit more peace here—the big cats don’t venture this way...

Our first encounter was a group of Masai giraffes.

Rarer (for us), a savanna monitor lizard basking in the sun right in the middle of the track...??

A large gathering of impalas (mostly males) along with a few blue wildebeest:

Also unusual: a African crowned hornbill taking a dust bath in the middle of the track...!!

When it comes to identifying mammals or birds, I don’t know everything... so I might make mistakes. Please forgive me. I’m counting on my friend Blesl’s active participation... 😉

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Olive842 2 weeks ago

From Avignon to Casamance Without Flying

Hi there,

Last February, I made a trip using "public transport" from France to southern Senegal via Spain, Morocco, Western Sahara, and Mauritania.

It’s a journey of about 5,000 km, where I took trains (as far as Marrakech), ferries (to cross Gibraltar and then to reach Casamance from Dakar), and mostly buses on the long desert straightaways. I hadn’t planned any stops in advance or booked any hotels, except for the very first train to Spain, which left plenty of room for the unexpected. Why travel by land and sea? In recent years, flight-free travel has been gaining popularity. On social media, posts explaining how to cross Europe by train as quickly as possible go viral. Traveling without flying—and making sure people know about it—has become a great way to earn a badge of eco-responsibility: an essential totem for anyone wanting to prove both their dedication to the ecological cause and the wisdom of slow travel. I haven’t flown in years, and this journey to West Africa could easily be filed under "responsible travel." But it wouldn’t be honest to say that: in reality, it wasn’t really my aversion to flying that motivated this long trek. I see overland travel primarily as a way to experience the world’s geography at a grounded, earthly pace—the pace of the locals. Besides, I’ll be flying back, which disqualifies any claim to being a model of sustainability. So no eco-badge, and no adventurer’s badge either: you won’t find any heroic tales of camel rides in lost lands or mineral train wagons in this account (popular with influencers, the Mauritania iron ore train now attracts tourists from all over the world, turning "the experience" into something you "have to do at least once in your life"). This five-part story, written on the road, has no other ambition than to recount a journey through places and people, and to share the thoughts they inspire in me. As simply and, I hope, as humbly as possible.

I’m posting the episodes here, which you can also find on my blog (with more photos) at the following links:

Episode 1: Spain, from Avignon to Algeciras

Episode 2: Morocco, from Tangier to Tarfaya

Episode 3: Western Sahara, from Tarfaya to Guerguerat

Episode 4: Mauritania, from Guerguerat to Nouakchott

Episode 5: Senegal, from Rosso to Saloulou

To help those who might want to make the same trip, I’ve also put together a summary of the route with recommendations—you can read it at the end of the story and on the blog: From France to Senegal Without Flying: Route and Itinerary Recommendations

Happy reading, and safe travels!

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Sinforosa 3 weeks ago

Back in Tunisia (live account)

Hi there,

On this forum, I shared my first trip to Tunisia from mid-February to early March (https://voyageforum.com/forum/impressions-tunisiennes-en-direct-d11460662/), a stay I enjoyed so much that six weeks later, I’m back in Tunisia for a full 15 days (I return on April 27).

This time, I landed in Monastir on a direct flight from Nice, again with Tunisair. We left about ten minutes late, and the flight lasted around 1 hour 30 minutes. A meal was served on board (cucumber salad with Edam-like cheese, carrots, and two small portions of dishes I couldn’t identify—semolina with peppers, olives, and parsley, two small rolls, a square of processed cheese, and a chocolate cake). It’s worth noting because it’s not common on flights this short.

In February, France and Tunisia were in the same time zone, but now Tunisia is one hour behind. This time difference and the flight duration work perfectly for a short 15-day trip since it takes me a few days to adjust to jet lag.

Luckily, I’d asked my hotel about the taxi fare from the airport because the drivers (there were several around me) didn’t hesitate to quote outrageous prices. The actual fare is 20 dinars, but one asked for 120 dinars. I refused, and another offered 60 dinars. I replied, "That’s too expensive—I’ll take the metro!" (Having tried the Tunis metro, I had no desire to repeat the experience in Monastir with a suitcase!). I started walking toward the metro, and one of the drivers caught up with me, saying, "20 dinars is fine!" I’ll skip the details, but the negotiation took a little while. When I arrived at the hotel, I told the receptionist someone had asked for 120 dinars. He put his hands to his head and said, "They’re awful!" He remembered our phone call two days earlier when I’d booked (he’s the one who told me I could take the metro).

The Mezri Hotel isn’t expensive. I got a sea-view room for 75 dinars (22 €). (I’d booked a balcony room for 90 dinars but wouldn’t have had time to enjoy it.) It’s well-located but noisy because there’s no double glazing. The receptionist is a very kind older gentleman. He called a friend whose wife is from Tozeur to find out if I should take a bus or a *louage* tomorrow and what time.

I arrived at the hotel around 7:00 PM and had time to stroll along the corniche to the ribat. Despite some run-down buildings, the seaside seemed livelier and cheerier than Sousse’s.

Monastir is the hometown of former president Bourguiba. I passed his mausoleum by taxi. There are Tunisian flags along the avenue by the sea because every year on April 6—the anniversary of Habib Bourguiba’s death—the president of the Republic visits the Bourguiba Mausoleum in Monastir to pay respects.

The taxi driver mentioned other Tunisian presidents. He complained about rising prices and insecurity, blaming President Kaïs Saïed (I’d already heard that security was better under Ben Ali).

At the end of my stay, I’ll take time to explore Monastir, but tomorrow morning, I’m off to Tozeur—a long bus ride awaits me.

TO BE CONTINUED....

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Amnesix77 3 weeks ago · Sandrita24

Andalusia with family (and two families) by car, late April 2019

Hi everyone,

Just back from two weeks in Andalusia, and I wanted to share this experience with you—maybe it’ll help with planning a trip. I’ll start with a quick recap in this post and try to add photos and day-by-day details later (still sorting through them). Hope I don’t bore you too much! 😎

Trip details:

April 20 to May 4, 2019:

7 days on the Costa de la Luz (El Puerto de Santa María) in an Airbnb,

4 days at the junction of the Costa del Sol and Costa Tropical (Salobreña) in an Airbnb,

3 days at Cabo de Gata for some rest at a campsite in Los Escullos.

Two families of four, each with our own car: three 9-year-old boys and a 6-year-old girl. One family was more into city exploration (not us, but we’re working on it), and the other preferred relaxation and nature (that’s us). We speak a little Spanish.

Over 5,000 km, including 2,500 km for the round trip from Carcassonne.

The weather: Variable, but we expected better for this region in late April. The first week on the Costa de la Luz was sometimes chilly (< 20°C), and the second week was warmer but not excessive (< 25°C). At least we didn’t get much rain!

Our budget: Around 2600 € per family:

700 € for accommodations, about 50 € per night,

1000 € for meals and restaurants. We usually spent around 50 € per family at restaurants—we ate out for lunch (except for 2–3 picnics) and cooked at home in the evenings, trying to be back by 6 PM.

600 € for activities: Río Tinto, a flamenco show, visits to the Alhambra, Giralda, and Alcázar, Oasis Park with meals, and a kayaking trip.

300 € for gas and tolls.

Preparation: A few months ahead with bookings for accommodations and tickets for the Alhambra, Giralda, and Alcázar. We used a few travel guides—I like the *Évasion* guide for initial planning. *Géoguide* was okay, but our friends’ *Routard* was the most useful. We also spent three months brushing up on Spanish with Mosalingua (a great spaced-repetition method, max 10 minutes a day). Downloaded Maps.me and the Andalusia map in advance—essential. And we used Tricount to track shared expenses with friends—super handy.

What we did/saw:

3 city visits (Seville, Granada, and Cádiz) + Málaga for our friends (we vetoed Córdoba—too many cities for us).

4 white villages (Vejer de la Frontera, Arcos de la Frontera, Grazalema, Ronda) + Tarifa for our friends.

Beaches (Tarifa and Bolonia, Matalascañas, Nerja, Cabo de Gata).

Nature and fun moments: Doñana National Park, a kayaking trip along the rocky coast near Nerja, and the Wild West/animal park in the Tabernas Desert.

A little culture: Río Tinto mines, the archaeological site of Itálica, Columbus’s caravels, Nerja Cave for us, and the Picasso Museum in Málaga for our friends. Plus, seeing the ham-drying process in the Alpujarras (for our friends).

Our highlights

Nerja and the surrounding villages: The rocky coast was amazing, and we loved the kayaking trip, even if the water was freezing for snorkeling. The beaches are sheltered from the wind, the town is charming, and the cave is incredible.

El Rocío and Doñana National Park. El Rocío has a timeless, almost Wild West vibe—we could’ve stayed a day or two. The quiet and pine scents reminded us of the Landes region.

What we didn’t love as much:

Río Tinto mines: Not super exciting, and the guides’ nonstop chatter kind of ruined the "nature" experience.

Our little regrets (for next time):

Forgetting our passports and missing a day trip to Tangier from Tarifa.

Not having an extra day around Nerja to go snowboarding in the Sierra Nevada—just 1.5 hours away (the kayak guide suggested it).

Not spending at least one night in El Rocío to explore Doñana National Park at dawn.

Antequera with the Guadalhorce reservoir and the Caminito del Rey (but it would’ve meant 2 more hours of driving, and we didn’t have the energy).

My general impressions of Andalusia and Spain

Landscapes: A feeling of extreme concentration of a single activity in some areas—endless olive groves, wind farms on the Costa de la Luz (which I thought were well-integrated), rows of buildings along the Costa del Sol (yikes, glad we didn’t stop there), greenhouses around Almería (a shame to have frozen the coast for so many kilometers), and the massive industrial port of Huelva.

What surprised us compared to France was the lack of small hamlets—villages are clearly defined, and people cluster there, leaving vast landscapes without human presence. In France, you find houses scattered everywhere.

Roads: Relatively few tolls. Sure, rest areas aren’t as nice as in France, but the roads are in good condition, and our wallet was happy. The roads are pretty straight with countless bridges and tunnels—the upside (besides fast travel) is that there aren’t many secondary roads disrupting the scenery.

Tourism and activities: A huge variety and richness. Feels like everyone can find something they like, and 15 days barely scratched the surface. It’s amazing how quickly you go from the coast to snow-capped peaks (Sierra Nevada) or from farmland to desert (Tabernas). And the mix of European and Arabic architecture in the same city is really special.

One small regret: Not interacting more with locals. We didn’t luck out with our Airbnbs. But shopkeepers were great—very patient with my broken Spanish! :-)

Overall, I think our choice to stay on the Costa de la Luz and then near Nerja worked well. We could explore pretty easily (even if we logged a lot of kilometers), and the settings were fantastic. The 3 days of total relaxation at Cabo de Gata were perfect.

If you prefer shorter stops, you could try staying in El Rocío (easy access to Seville and great for an early visit to Doñana National Park) or maybe Grazalema for a hike in the mountains (weather-dependent). And of course, Tarifa for a day trip to Tangier or Gibraltar.

More details and photos to come soon!

Laurent

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Fabhyène 4 weeks ago · Sinforosa

She Sees Giants Everywhere! (Ducasse of Ath, Belgium, August 2018)

Sometimes fantasy and a change of scenery are right near home! I love exploring the four corners of the planet, but there can also be a whole world just a little farther than the end of your street—or even the tip of your nose! So I’ll share with you in pictures the beautiful kermesse of Ath, which we only discovered last August, even though we’re neighbors (we live in Lille).

I could have subtitled this travel journal: "Ferme eut’bouc tin nez va quer eud’dans"; it’s an expression in Picard language, literally “Close your mouth or your nose will fall in,” said to someone who’s amazed—and amazed I was!!!

Ooooooooh, giants! Oh, how I love them! In the North, we have lots of these giants, like Reuze Papa and Reuze Maman in Cassel, or Gayant, Marie, and their children Binbin, Jacquot, and Fillon in Douai, and many more.

Huh? What? You don’t know what a Géant du Nord is?

Well, it’s a benevolent hero, a legendary figure, a protector, a symbol tied to a city that parades through it, walking and dancing during carnival or the local festival. The tradition is said to have originated in Portugal in the 13th century (at least that’s where we have the first records), then we see them in the Netherlands starting in the 15th century. In the North, the oldest are Gayant and Marie of Douai (16th century), but many new ones have appeared since the 1980s with the revival of carnivals. In practice, it’s a large character (or animal figure) several meters tall; the structure is made of wicker, the body is often papier-mâché, but the head can be wood, as in Ath (lime wood), and the clothes and accessories are made of fabric, leather, and wood. The flared robe (for both male and female giants) allows one or more carriers to slip underneath to move it using only their arms, shoulders, and legs—and even make it dance! There are over 1,500 giants in Belgium and 450 in Hauts-de-France, mostly in the Nord and Pas-de-Calais departments.

In Ath, there are giants—LOTS of them! I’ve never seen so many at once. And each one is carried by only one man at a time (except for Bayard, you’ll see why later), even though the structure weighs over 100 kilos—so the carriers take turns quickly! The Ducasse of Ath and its giants have been inscribed on the UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage list since 2008, as part of the "Processional Giants and Dragons of Belgium and France."

What’s more, the Ducasse of Ath is remarkable for its age and local roots; a procession was first mentioned in 1399, and today the many musical groups are still local (Ath and surrounding towns). The event is extremely popular: a good part of the population is there, all generations mixed together. Everyone knows the groups, floats, and giants, and each has their favorite! Originally, religious groups paraded, illustrating episodes from the Bible or the Golden Legend. Gradually, the parade became secular and kept evolving by adding new giants, historical figures, or allegories linked to local history (Ath, Belgian Hainaut, Belgium).

Finally, the beautiful floats are all pulled by magnificent draft horses, and that’s extraordinary! The town council itself rides in fine carriages that close the parade.

To wrap up this long introduction, know that the Ducasse of Ath lasts several days, but the highlight is the highly codified procession that takes place on the 4th Sunday of August (actually, the procession passes twice, once in the morning and once in the afternoon).

So, let’s go!

On this Sunday, August 26th, we’re in Ath in the early afternoon to see the procession. What a popular enthusiasm! Everyone is wearing the city’s colors (purple, yellow, and white), often with a twisted fabric necklace. Everyone is happy, smiling, from the giggling toddler to the sprightly centenarian sipping beer with her rosy-cheeked cousin and the pretty freckled blonde niece. People call out to each other, laugh, hum, and congratulate each other all around.

People start positioning themselves at strategic spots along the route—wider areas where the giants stop to perform a dance to the tunes of the brass bands accompanying them. And there are brass bands—at least one per giant and float!

The wait passes quickly in this joyful atmosphere. Suddenly, the music grows louder, and here comes the first giant at last! It’s the "two-headed eagle," with a child (a real one) sitting safely on a little chair.

Present in the procession since the late 17th century, it originally had only one head (normal, right?) and accompanied the tailors’ guild. It gained a second head during the royal visit of 1854 (go figure why!). It’s 3.30 meters tall and weighs 115 kilos (without the child). All the men you see in white are carriers taking turns. Its dance consists of spinning the bird around—you’d think that little kid up there must be getting dizzy!

Next is the "Neapolitan fishermen’s boat." It’s a magnificent float representing a ship, with handsome sailors clinging to its rigging. This float first appeared in the parade in 1856.

It’s followed by a human giant on stilts: "Saint Christopher of Flobecq," holding a flowered staff and carrying Christ on his shoulders (this time, not a real child!). It appeared in the 19th century, then disappeared from the procession before being reintroduced in 1976.

Now here come the "Blues," dressed in French uniforms. This group is the heir of the former cannon-arquebusier company, and they punctuate their parade with gun salutes!

To be continued: the giant Samson!

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Mathews 4 weeks ago · Voyajou

A Brief A to Z of Peru

Foreword This text has been proofread many times. Sorry if some points in this A to Z have already been covered on this forum. Text and drawings by the author.

Peru is still a very vast country, with so much to see, and obviously this text can't list all the attractions of the country.

*Abiseo (River) A national park that's very hard to access and doesn’t seem open to visitors. Includes the Gran Pajaten site (see below). Personally, it really sparks my imagination (not visited personally)

*Aguas Calientes the town next to Machu Picchu, more precisely below the archaeological site. As far as I know, you can only get there by train. Reminds me of the market where stalls line both sides of the tracks near Bangkok. I love it

*Altiplano: somewhere the "heart" of the Andes. I was able to trek across it on foot, starting from Caracollo in Bolivia, and of course, it’s vast plains to explore. This is where people live in a very rural way. Andean populations are quite austere compared to those in the lowlands or on the coast. You really have to appreciate the harshness of life to live there. Life is anything but superficial. I set a compass heading and found myself walking west toward the expanse of water near a place called La Joya. For pitching the tent, the nights were still chilly

*Canyon del Colca One of the deepest canyons in the world. Personally, I hiked down and back up on foot. The toughest stretch I’ve ever covered in my life.

*Ceviche More or less the national dish. A marinade of fish, shellfish, and lime. But you can find it in some restaurants in Europe, France, and certainly in Belgium or Switzerland. In the small restaurants of Pisco, you can eat excellent ceviche

*Cerro Sechín: Mostly bas-reliefs. A site little known to travelers in the Casma province. The first vestiges of a pre-Inca civilization with iconography similar to that of Chavín (not visited personally)

*Chan Chan A large city of the Chimú civilization and relatively vast to visit. You can see adobe walls with bas-reliefs. Visit from Trujillo, take a colectivo. Plan for the whole day

*Charango: a small guitar widely used in Andean music

*Chauchilla A necropolis near Nazca where you can see mummies exposed on the ground. YouTubers can do paranormal experiments there. And for anyone wondering about the fate of the soul and body after death, here’s the answer: the body remains after death. You can imagine your own flesh and body exposed to the winds of the Pampa and before eternity... (not visited personally)

*Chavín de Huántar (Lanzón) The site’s appeal lies in its mountainous surroundings, the Lanzón stela, and the sculpted heads on the façades. What few people know is that the Chavín civilization began its expansion centuries before the Incas. Unfortunately, you can’t get too close to see the Lanzón—the day I was there, it was protected by grilles. To get there: minibus from Huaraz or trek from Olleros. Then cross a high pass (over 5,000m). If you do it solo on foot, be careful—the path isn’t obvious from Olleros

*Chullpa: funerary tower, notably at Sillustani in the Lake Titicaca region

*Chimú: pre-Inca civilization whose center was Chan Chan.

*Chola/Cholitas (Bolivia): typical clothing style of women from the Andean plateaus

*Chompa: pronounce it *Chompaaa!* A common term for a wool sweater with vicuña patterns, often knitted from alpaca wool. If you dress like this, it’s a bit kitschy around the edges

*Cuy That one isn’t a guinea pig like in Guyana but an actual guinea pig. During a trip to Peru, I was hiking near a village north of Quillabamba (the terminus of the train line that passes through Aguas Calientes), and I was invited to stay in a house. The family raised a few of these pets. Apparently, the locals eat them. Since I’m not much of a meat-eater, it doesn’t really tempt me. How about you?

*Pacific Coast or how to talk about a place you haven’t visited? Except for the coast near Pisco and San Andrés, I haven’t visited any coastal cities. But that doesn’t mean these places lack interest or poetry. For fans of clichéd images, pelicans, seabirds, and fishing boats appear by the sea.

*Gran Pajaten: also closed to the public. Features anthropomorphic bas-reliefs. (not visited personally)

*Huaca. Visit the Huaca del Sol and Huaca de la Luna, especially near Trujillo. However, you can skip them—Chan Chan is still more interesting. Don’t forget to spend time visiting Chan Chan

*Huacachina A small oasis in the desert near Ica. Yes, we’re talking about an oasis because for those who’ve never traveled to Peru, the coastal strip along the Pacific is almost entirely desert, from north to south. Peru is territorially made up of three different regions: the desert coast, the Altiplano stretching north to south with mountain ranges (the Cordilleras), and the Amazon basin to the east. (not visited personally)

*Inca Kola It’s neither Coca-Cola nor Pepsi but a unique cola with a slightly orange color. Tastes like bubble gum

*Intiwatana: a carved rock shaped like a parallelepiped. Is it a sundial?

*Ballestas Islands: a highlight in Peru, though very touristy. You can only get there by boat from the port of San Andrés, a few kilometers from Pisco. It’s a surreal place to me—actually islets with cavities where sea lions and fur seals live. Since it’s a protected area, you’re not allowed to disembark. Guano is harvested there, which can be used as fertilizer.

*Kuelap: a fortress built by the Chachapoyas people. Rarely visited by travelers. (not visited personally)

*Larco Museum: an iconic museum in Lima with a large collection of pieces from archaeological and pre-Columbian sites. From what I remember, it has many pieces from the Moche civilization. As for the Moche statuettes, the prudish might look away. Probably a veneration of the god Priapus without knowing it.

*Nazca Lines Discovered by German archaeologist Maria Reiche, they stretch for kilometers. The designs in the desert around Nazca depict animals and cabalistic signs. The question I ask myself is why the creators of these lines represented a monkey and a hummingbird—species endemic to the tropical forest, not the desert plains around Nazca.

*Machu Picchu: means "old mountain" in Quechua. There’s also Wayna Picchu. The ruins of the site emerge from a sort of small plateau above Aguas Calientes. When the mist rises above the site and the bend of the Urubamba River, it’s truly magical... Also the starting point of the Inca Trail.

*Coca tea A decoction/infusion of the coca plant, meant to ease altitude sickness or *soroche*

*Chullo A rough translation would be a Peruvian wool hat.

*Moche: a civilization established in the Moche Valley, hence the term *Mochica*. What characterizes this civilization are the distinctive clay pieces representing faces and erotic statuettes

*Papa a la Huancaína A local potato dish

*Pisac: a typical market near Cusco

*Pisco Sour: perhaps the Peruvian equivalent of the *caipirinha* you drink in Brazil.

*Puya Raimondii A Bromeliaceae that still looks like a cactus, endemic to the Altiplano

*Quechua The language spoken by the indigenous people of the high plateaus (as well as Aymara in Bolivia)

*Quipu A knotted string used for counting. Widely used by the Inca administration.

*Sacsayhuamán (Q’enqo, Inca Bath) From Cusco’s Plaza de Armas, take the streets that climb above the city. Sacsayhuamán is called a fortress and is made up of large stone blocks. You wonder how the Incas could cut such huge blocks to assemble them—just like some streets in Cusco. The Q’enqo block is enigmatic; no one really knows what it represents.

*Savia Andina An Andean folk group.

*Tambo (=> Ollantaytambo) The Inca emperor (Atahualpa, Manco Capac) had the mission of controlling a vast empire. An empire that was still very extensive. Hence the importance of these *tambos* or relay stations. Napoleon created the civil code; the Incas invented the *tambos* and *quipus*.

*Tawantinsuyu: the Inca Empire

*Tinku: a warrior dance practiced mainly in Bolivia

*Golden Tumi: a sacrificial weapon. Often featured in Peru travel guides. See illustration

*Terra X: a documentary series from the German TV channel that aired on Arte. Some episodes focused on pre-Inca and Inca Peru. I must have some old recording tapes. In memory of Gottfried Kirchner as a source of inspiration.

*Uros: I checked—it actually refers to the people who live on these floating islands. Even if it’s touristy, it’s a must-visit because it’s incredible how people can live on islets made from nothing. Take the boat from Puno

*Vicuña, llama, guanaco: camelids characteristic of the Altiplano

*Wayna Picchu The young Picchu mountain. In the first minutes of *Aguirre, the Wrath of God*, you see Klaus Kinski—well, Aguirre—making his way along the Inca Trail. Werner Herzog must have broken his back filming those sequences.

*Zampoña: pan flute

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