So where are they and what are they doing?
FR

Translated into English.

ER Ericdu38 Regular ·
hence my question, dear Eric: does travel have meaning? 😛 Sorry for the "pompous" rhetoric.

Of course, giving advice, tips, etc. is constructive—it adds something to the discussion... but if you recount your day down to the hour, I’m not a fan 🧳
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Thanks Eric for this simple but effective take on things.
HE Herodotos Regular ·
Hi Catherine,

The fact that you’re calling out Emmanuelle like this—who left this forum a long time ago—lets me respond to Jojoone about his request to argue. Because I bet the main people involved (Hérodotos and Tatra), who started the commotion that caused all the fuss, won’t do it.

I don’t remember who said it, but: "Of all arguments, the hardest to refute is silence." And here, I really missed an opportunity... 🤪
https://www.myatlas.com/Herodote
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
If the onlooker wants to get closer to what Michel T writes—perhaps disappointing, but in any case very different from the linear narratives found in the travel journal section—they should browse the blog he once created with Kelessuf: Dolasadolasa.

Why did Emmanuelle and Michel stop writing on their blog?

I remember a time long ago when the name of this blog was Tatra’s signature.
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UN UnaMilanese Veteran ·
Hi there,

I’m not the one you should be asking... 😉 I’m just guessing that Turkey and the neighboring countries have become less of a part of their lives.

Cat
By this, and this only, we have existed. Which is not to be found in our obituaries. (T.S. Eliot)
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hey,

Yeah, but since the paragraph was in your post, I was a bit too lazy to copy-paste.🤪

Plus, Tatra seems to be napping. I didn’t really feel like waking him up...
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
There's a buzz... vacation time?

1,081 visitors online in the last hour! 1,516 members online in the last 24 hours!
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
There’s a buzz... vacation time?

1,081 visitors online in the last hour! 1,516 members online in the last 24 hours!

That email with suggestions for the different travel journals must’ve helped. [;)
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Tatra is eating a Caesar salad, his favorite dish, on a terrace in Bergen, facing the last white smoke from the impressive yacht fire that shook the harbor this morning. What was your question again? Dolosadolasa? No need for explanations, I’ve moved on—Ukraine, Europe, Russia, Central Asia... Emmanuelle too. Haven’t you?

Michel
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hello again, nice to see you back here! I received this kind of email a few weeks ago already. Maybe it’s a repeat...

1,308 visitors online in the last hour! 105 members online in the last hour! 1,549 members online in the last 24 hours!
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MA Mariecurry Globetrotter ·
Hello everyone,

Joël, For years, logging onto VF, reading you all, sharing my trips deep in China and elsewhere, giving info, presenting books, having a laugh with you, and even getting into debates with some of you—it was a big part of my life. Today, I drop by from time to time. I still read you. Less, though. As for chiming in...

Is it because of Covid? The comments posted by the forum’s founder before the site shut down? No. I just don’t feel like it anymore (I started writing this message over 30 minutes ago).

But now the mood strikes, so here we go... 🙂
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
These days, I drop by from time to time. I still read you all. Less often. As for chiming in...

First off, putting my avatar back—a mischievous little girl tangling string between her fingers. (Just an example, okay... )
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
This thread is really exceeding my expectations. Even though we're in a semi-virtual space, seeing all these great people pop up has a real effect. It feels like reuniting with classmates at the start of a new school year—minus the awkwardness. 🙂

It’s been quite the break.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
NA Nathalie69 Regular ·
hi

Yeah, it’s true things aren’t like they used to be. I posted a message yesterday about a private travel agency review and an itinerary for Brazil—no replies. Before, I feel like my post would’ve gotten comments pretty quickly. Such a shame!!!
nathalie69
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Only one in a thousand gives more information than they ask for, right?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
hello

Yeah, it’s true things aren’t like they used to be. I posted a message yesterday about a private travel agency review and an itinerary for Brazil—no replies. Before, I feel like my post would’ve gotten comments quickly. It’s such a shame!!!

Yeah, there definitely used to be more exchanges about travel destinations. There’s less now, or even none at all for some places. Why? Probably for the reasons mentioned in this thread, and also because a lot of new participants ask for advice but then disappear once they get the info, which is pretty frustrating. But that doesn’t seem to be your case. I can’t really respond to your post since I’ve never been to Brazil, except to see Iguazu Falls when we were in Argentina. Only the "travelers’ reflections" section and travel journals are still active. Come on, we’ve gotta stay hopeful! Anne-Claire
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
hi there

Yeah, it's clear things aren't like they used to be. I posted a message yesterday about a private travel agency review and an itinerary for Brazil, but no replies. Before, I think my post would've gotten comments pretty quickly. It's such a shame!!!

It's because the discussion thread isn't up to date! I'll take a look and try to respond with what little experience I have 😊
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Good evening. We’re in the age of speed. All questions are now handled in Facebook or Instagram threads within dedicated groups. I follow a few (Laos, Cambodia, Botswana), and the posts are numerous with immediate answers (and sometimes wildly off-the-mark ones). Out of curiosity, I checked the “visitor count” stats Joël posted about online profiles: 90% of those with an age listed are at least in their fifties… This forum, given its history (I’ve been here for nearly 20 years), no longer fits the new ways of traveling. But that’s a good thing!! Here, at least, we greet each other, craft our messages, correct our mistakes, show respect, and listen (most of the time). We share by taking the time to tell stories—we don’t just “do” a country… And even if only a few of us remain, as long as this place lives on, we’ll keep exploring it with joy!!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
When we don’t get messages like this all day, we all start biting our nails, don’t we? 😄
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
This forum, given its history (I’ve been here for nearly 20 years), is no longer suited to new ways of traveling.

But what *are* the new ways of traveling like? (Serious question)
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
HE Herodotos Regular ·
Hi Anne-Claire,

A lot of new participants ask for advice and then disappear once they’ve gotten the info, which is pretty frustrating.

I can confirm—I had another disappointing experience with that just yesterday. So for me, that’s it!

Plus, the VF system automatically generates completely wrong location links compared to the place you’re trying to point to, and when you try to add your own link from Google Maps, it’s impossible. I reported it to the mods, but apparently, they’re MIA... It’s really discouraging!

It’s said that VF’s setup is better than others. I’m not so sure about that.

PS. In the last 24 hours: 12 new discussions on VF; 52 new topics on GdR
https://www.myatlas.com/Herodote
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
I posted a message yesterday about a private travel agency review and an itinerary for Brazil, no replies. It's such a shame!!!

99% of the members on this forum travel independently, which explains why you didn’t get a response to your question.
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
This forum, given its history (I’ve been here for nearly 20 years), isn’t really suited to new ways of traveling anymore.

But what *are* the new ways of traveling like? (serious question)

I don’t really have the answer, since I still travel the old-school way… My point was more about how people plan trips these days.

Case in point—just 10 minutes ago: Someone posted in the “Traveling to Botswana” thread: “Hi everyone, I’m open to any itinerary suggestions for my trip to Botswana in April. Do you know any 4x4 rental companies?”

April? 😐 I hope they mean 2026?
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Good evening Anne-Claire,

A lot of new participants ask for advice and then disappear once they get the information, which is pretty frustrating. I can confirm—I had that same disappointing experience just yesterday. So for me, that’s it!

I just took a look at the discussion in question. I mean, a forum user with 10 posts in 8 years—you couldn’t really expect a flood of replies. But I agree, it’s annoying.

And then the VF system automatically gives completely wrong location links compared to the place you want to point out, and when you try to add your own link from Google Maps, it’s impossible. I reported it to the mods, but apparently they’re MIA… It’s so discouraging!

Really? I just posted a Gmap link—it worked (in the Morocco discussion).

PS. In the last 24 hours: 12 new discussions on VF; 52 new topics on GdR

We’ve already talked about GdR’s reliability here and there, so their forum… Without even mentioning the money they spend on SEO when you search
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
HE Herodotos Regular ·
Oh really? I just posted a Gmap link, it works (discussion about Morocco)

Well, no, it never works with GM for me! Don’t get it.

https://www.myatlas.com/Herodote
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Oh really? I just posted a Gmap link, it works (discussion about Morocco)

Well no, it never works with GM! Don’t get it.

Try with a ctrl C ctrl V
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
HE Herodotos Regular ·
That’s exactly what I’m doing (Cmd C / Cmd V on a Mac)!

Still, it’d be nice if the mods could at least respond. This is the second time I’ve flagged an issue without hearing back. It’s really discouraging.

Frustrated, I’m just gonna drop it. 😕
https://www.myatlas.com/Herodote
HE Herodotos Regular ·
Hello,

I’ve temporarily gone back on my decision to end my collaboration by replying to you in the Brazil section. 🙂
https://www.myatlas.com/Herodote
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
Oh really? I just posted a Gmap link, it works (discussion about Morocco)

Well no, it never works with GM! Don’t get it.



Maybe... In the box that pops up to insert a link, you have to delete the "https://"; that’s pre-filled. It creates a duplicate with the one already in the address you want to insert.
HE Herodotos Regular ·
you need to remove the "https://"; that’s pre-filled.

Yeah, but that doesn’t change anything. Still a mystery...
https://www.myatlas.com/Herodote
DO Dolma Globetrotter ·
So where on earth has Maya T. gone 😮? She seems to have been kidnapped, even though she was well hidden in Miscellaneous! Should we start an online fundraiser (it’s all the rage these days) so we can pay the ransom that’ll surely be demanded? We’re not gonna jump to the worst-case scenario, right? Like, say, a straight-up decapitation 😠.

I’m posting this announcement (quick, read it before it self-destructs) here since, well, we *are* on topic: a disappearance...
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
But where on earth did Maya T go?

There *is* a MayaT registered in May 2012, but she didn’t make much of a splash since she never left a single message!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
DO Dolma Globetrotter ·
The Maya being searched for is named Tlass (spelling correct?), she was "born" a day or two ago from Pondy’s pen and hidden in the Miscellaneous section.
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
But what are the new ways of traveling like?

I don’t know, but it often comes down to money.

A lot of requests on Facebook revolve around budget more than destination.

Like, "I’ve got 15 days in April—where can I go with 500 €?"

Not many "adventurers"—it’s mostly beach trips, organized tours, and trendy travel.

A lot of wrong answers with tons of recommendations for providers, even for basic stuff.

It’s a little better in groups that specialize in a specific destination.
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Few "adventurers"—it's often beach resorts, organized trips, and trendy travel.

And apparently more cruises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
VE Veve75020 Veteran ·
Hey everyone,

Great discussion! 🙂 VF really helped me out, both in terms of ideas and advice—thanks especially to papyetmammy (I had an amazing campervan trip across West Africa in 2007), Chnoupi for her Corsica tips, and so many others... I was really looking forward to the site reopening, but I’m not quite finding that adventurous, sharp spirit and the playful debates that used to make me laugh so much. Maybe soon?
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I’m jumping in on your message, but I still don’t get what Montagnard means when he says “I travel the old-school way”…

But what’s up with these new ways of traveling?

I dunno, but it’s often about money.

Oh really? 😕 For me, the difference is in how often we travel, not the style. I mean, I think so. We move around more than before, but people have always traveled in different ways—30 years ago just like now.
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I’m jumping on your post, but I still don’t get what Montagnard means when he says “I travel the old-school way.”

Like I told Agnès in the next message, I was mainly talking about how I plan my trips. A paper guidebook, a few posts on VF, months of work to prepare “the trip of a lifetime.” Nowadays, you don’t even need VF—a post in a Facebook group or even a quick ask on ChatGPT (I tried it, it’s mind-blowing) and you’re all set.
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
months of work to prepare "the trip of a lifetime."

No way, really? I’ve never had to travel the old-school way—unless it was back in the "Old Testament" era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
but I can’t seem to find (not yet?) that adventurous, sharp side and the verbal sparring that made me laugh so much...

Hi Hervé, Could you share a few links to what you liked here?
VE Veve75020 Veteran ·
hi,

What do you mean by link? If you go to my profile, I think you can see the conversations I’ve joined. Actually, I still love VF, but I feel like there are more requests for cruises than for slightly more "offbeat" trips. Some sections no longer exist, so overall, I find it a bit less "lively".
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
My dearest Kola,

I don’t know how François cast his spell on you, but clearly, it worked.

I stated a simple truth—one unrelated to my history with VF: if some people don’t come back, it’s genuinely because of François.

I wouldn’t have returned myself if the site hadn’t been sold and the team hadn’t changed.

That sale allowed me to move on, and I hope others will do the same.

But didn’t you come back because you were banned from the other site (FV)?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I left that other site on my own after deleting 99% of my messages there.

I never logged back in after that.

So I don’t know when my profile was changed.

There’s no connection between my departure from there years ago and my return here.
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SO Solene40 Veteran ·
hi there Actually, I still love VF, but I feel like there’s more demand for cruises than for slightly more "offbeat" trips these days. Some sections no longer exist, and overall, I find it a bit less "lively"

I invite you to check this out, Hervé, https://voyageforum.com/forum/sao-tome-ile-oubliee-d10699060-2/

In terms of "offbeat" travel, it’s not bad at all 😊
Le monde est comme un miroir, si tu lui souris, il te sourit aussi!
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I went back to that other forum, FV, and found the discussion "les-profiteurs-de-guerre-sur-les-forums."

And what do I find there? I quote: "As on all social networks, aggressive, contemptuous, defamatory, insulting, racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, misogynistic remarks are not acceptable. Misinformation, particularly concerning the vaccination campaign and the health situation, as well as conspiracy theories, will be deleted because they endanger public health."

The last sentence means that anyone who thinks, doubts, or questions an official narrative has no place for their writing on this forum. So there’s a clear bias in favor of a specific version from people who aren’t specialists, nor part of high-level political, medical, or pharmaceutical circles. But apparently, they know what’s good for everyone else—and are ready to impose it. In other times, the same ideas would have led to the suppression of any dissenting opinions on their forum, contrary to the doctrine of national socialism. That’s the truth.

Then, in the discussion "appel-a-aider-l-ukraine," I came across this: "The current events are so serious that they’ve completely overshadowed COVID, which the media bombarded us with daily. And for good reason—this is a critical moment!

Putin and his regime are spreading terror. In his country, but also in all the former USSR republics. And let’s not fool ourselves—today it’s Ukraine, tomorrow it could be Georgia, then the Baltic states... How far will his madness go? Because that’s exactly what it is: the madness of one man, a dictator who won’t stop until he’s rebuilt the Soviet empire—or even expanded it further. What about Europe?

What’s the strategy against this despot? Unfortunately, to stop him, we must help Ukraine resist. I hope the West will step up.

Thanks for reading.

Have a good day in our democracy."

It’s the same principle as with COVID. People whose reasoning hasn’t evolved beyond bar-stool debates, mouths agape in front of mainstream TV news, ready to swallow everything they’re fed without question. By the way, have you noticed that for at least 20 years, news anchors have been talking to their audience like they’re children?

Do these people with such strong opinions even know Ukraine’s history? Its strong ties to the far right? The role of American manipulation in sabotaging election results (the Maidan revolution)? Europe and NATO’s failure to respect the Minsk agreements? The years of bombings on Russian-speaking populations in the Donbass?

Of course not. When you encourage them to do their own research, all they can do is call you a conspiracy theorist. And no discussion is possible because their opinions must never be questioned.

They’re much better when they talk about travel. As for those who criticize VF because discussions like "Café du commerce" are more open—well, they can stay in their cozy little bubble.

The problem isn’t *what* topics we discuss—it’s about engaging in good faith, without personal attacks or insults, and backing up arguments. And, if possible, weighing in on subjects we know well or are well-informed about, with diverse sources.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
I went back to that other FV forum and found the discussion "les-profiteurs-de-guerre-sur-les-forums"

And what did I find? I quote: "As on all social networks, aggressive, contemptuous, defamatory, insulting, racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, misogynistic remarks are not admissible. Misinformation, particularly concerning the vaccination campaign and the health situation, as well as conspiracy and conspiratorial remarks, will be deleted because they endanger public health."

The last sentence means that anyone who thinks, doubts, or questions an official version has no place for their writings on this forum. So there’s a bias toward a specific version from people who aren’t specialists nor part of high-level political, medical, or pharmaceutical circles. But who apparently know what’s good or not for everyone else. And who would be ready to impose it on them.

Hi, I completely agree with you on this topic.

I’d just like to add a remark:

The person who "took charge" of the new forum (FV) wanted it to be strictly limited to "travel journals" and information for "individual" travel. Nothing more. This was to avoid all controversies that inevitably end in fights and to keep the forum manageable due to a lack of moderators. I think she put a lot of herself into it, if only because of the workload she dedicates to it, and without her sharp mind and conciliatory temperament to calm things down, she wouldn’t have succeeded. On this point, I congratulate her. The choice she made for how the forum runs, like any choice in life, has its good and bad sides (here, the limitation of freedom of expression). This is just my opinion. I haven’t read anything recent about the war in Ukraine. What I had read at the beginning was only about humanitarian aid for the country and nothing more.

The problem isn’t what topics we discuss, it’s about dialoguing in good faith, without personal attacks or insults, and arguing. And possibly, intervening on topics we know well or are well-documented on, with diverse sources.

I can only agree with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
Thanks for the detailed commentary... We’re now eagerly waiting for your equally insightful take on the situation in the Middle East.

.

I went back to that other forum, FV, and found the discussion "les-profiteurs-de-guerre-sur-les-forums."

And what did I find? I quote: "As on all social networks, aggressive, contemptuous, defamatory, insulting, racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, misogynistic remarks are not acceptable. Misinformation, particularly regarding the vaccination campaign and the health situation, as well as conspiracy theories, will be deleted because they endanger public health."

The last sentence means that anyone who thinks, questions, or challenges an official narrative has no place for their writing on this forum. So there’s a clear bias in favor of one specific version from people who aren’t experts, nor part of high-level political, medical, or pharmaceutical circles. But apparently, they know what’s best for everyone else. And they’d be ready to impose it. In other times, the same ideas would have led to deleting any dissenting opinions from their forum, contrary to the doctrine of National Socialism—that’s the truth.

Then, in the discussion: "appel-a-aider-l-ukraine," I found this: "The current events are so serious that they’ve completely overshadowed Covid, which the news bombarded us with daily. And for good reason—this is a critical moment!

Putin and his regime are spreading terror. In his country, but also in all the former USSR republics. And let’s not fool ourselves—today it’s Ukraine, tomorrow it’ll be Georgia, then the Baltic states... How far will his madness go? Because that’s exactly what it is—the madness of one man, a dictator who won’t stop until he’s rebuilt the Soviet empire, or even expanded further. What about Europe?

What’s the strategy against this despot? Unfortunately, to stop him, we have to help Ukraine resist. I hope the West will step up.

Thanks for reading.

Have a good day in our democracy."

It’s the same principle as with Covid. People whose reasoning hasn’t evolved beyond barroom chatter—I can just picture them, mouths agape in front of the evening news on the major channels, unconditionally swallowing everything they’re fed. By the way, have you noticed that for at least 20 years, news anchors have been talking to their audience like they’re children?

Do these people with such strong opinions even know Ukraine’s history? Its strong ties to the far right? The role of American manipulation in undermining election results (Maidan revolution)? Europe and NATO’s failure to respect the Minsk agreements? The years of bombings on Russian-speaking populations in the Donbass?

Of course not. When you encourage them to educate themselves, all they do is throw around the word "conspiracy theorist." And no discussion is possible because their opinions must never be questioned.

They’re much better when they talk about travel. As for those who criticize VF because discussions like "Café du commerce" are more open—well, they should just stay where they are, in their cozy little bubble.

The problem isn’t what topics we discuss—it’s about engaging in good faith, without personal attacks or insults, and backing up arguments. And, if possible, weighing in on subjects we know well or are well-informed about, with diverse sources.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Thanks for the detailed commentary... We’re now eagerly waiting for your equally insightful take on the situation in the Middle East.

Wow! That’s starting off strong. I’ve never read a single word on this topic in VF or FV 😮
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I guess it’s ironic, at best.

But alright, I’ll give it to you straight: it’s a religious war, the kind we saw in the Middle Ages. It’s crazy to fight each other when everyone worships the same one God—and even more so since that God supposedly doesn’t want people behaving this way.

This has been going on for at least 1,500 years, and I don’t see how it won’t continue for another 1,500. I had little hopes for them 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 5 years ago...

My take? If they want to tear each other apart, out of respect for them, we shouldn’t interfere. The day only one remains, it’ll finally stop (cf. Connor MacLeod). And most importantly, they need to stop bringing this mess to our doorstep—we’ve got mountains of other serious issues to deal with.

By the way, why did you ask me this?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
It's crazy to fight each other when we all love the same one God, especially since He supposedly doesn't want people to behave this way

It's insane to fight over individuals who don't even exist! 😛
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".

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