In Search of Warmth in California, Utah, and Arizona in February
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hello Guillaume,

Yes, Scherwiller is great for *flammekueche* (tarte flambée) 😉

Phew... made it... I’ve caught up with the train... I’m completely out of breath... the Maratis don’t mess around 😉

Thanks for sharing your amazing trip with us, and kudos on the effort 😎

JF
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
MA Marcalamar Veteran ·
Hi Guillaume 🙂 Your photos of Joshua Tree Park under the snow are amazing!! I really enjoyed reading your travel journal. Martine 🙂
Vivre et laisser vivre
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
I’m your travel journal lurking in the shadows, stepping out just to cheer you on to finish it.

Thanks, Fabrice—ending a travel journal is always trickier... The rest is coming... 😉
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Hi Jef, It’s great to see you in this VF section! Are you considering a return to the West Coast after exploring southern Africa and Asia? 😛 Either way, I’m really looking forward to your upcoming reports from Cambodia and South America 😉

Yes, Scherwiller is great for tarte flambée

Oh, you know it too! Nothing beats a flamm’ with munster, Lapoutroie goat cheese, or flambéed apples with schnapps...
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
After Rincon Beach, we continue our journey north and leave the 101 to take a break in Santa Barbara. Why this city? Simply because, along the way, I asked Maxime to check maps.me to see if there was anything nice to visit. And besides several churches, he stumbled upon a "historic fort."

So, we head to this fort, "El Presidio de Santa Barbara." As we enter the city, we’re surprised by the general architecture of the buildings. This city has history, a soul, and we really enjoy wandering around.







El Presidio is a military fort built by the Spanish in the late 18th century, the second-oldest building in California. A few sections of this massive structure are still visible and open to the public.







This mix of historic construction, interspersed with paved streets and modern buildings, is quite surprising, but we love this place.



The restored chapel, the first place of worship for Santa Barbara’s residents.





We continue our walk toward Alice Keck Park, where we enjoy this spring-like warmth.









We’ll have to come back to this city to take the time to visit the churches, museums, and the historic fort in more detail.

It’s time to head to our campsite, located in Los Padres National Forest, just north of San Luis Obispo.



But along the way, as soon as we move away from the coast, we’re hit with heavy rain.





The rain is so intense that we can’t drive faster than 70 km/h on the highway. After this morning’s snowstorm, we’re now dealing with a full-on storm! 🏴‍☠️

We don’t feel like stopping to visit the San Luis Obispo Mission, and we’d rather skip the Tower Roaf campsite (spotted on freecampsites) to go much farther north along Highway 1, to Willow Creek Road (35.886967, -121.45916), the only area in the region where wild camping is tolerated.

The only available spot is unfortunately already taken by a van, so we quietly park next to them since it’s already dark.

Recap of this second-to-last day: The weather once again forced us to change our plans, and we experienced a stark contrast between the snow in Joshua Tree this morning and the mild temperatures of the California coast... An unexpected crush on the vibe in Santa Barbara—we didn’t see that coming, and this city deserves a longer stay to fully enjoy it on a future California road trip.
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Fri 2/22 - California coast down to Monterey

We slept well for this last night of camping, with temperatures logically milder than inland. At 7 AM, we left our spot to head back south and started our day at the first beaches where we saw elephant seals.



Part of the coastline was still in shadow, but the landscapes we passed were gorgeous. 😎





View of the Piedras Blancas lighthouse



At the viewpoint for Hearst Castle, which we’ll visit with family, we turned around.



We spotted our first colony of elephant seals at Arroyo Laguna Beach, just north of San Simeon, and stopped to soak it all in...







We were alone, or nearly so...



I’m loving my new Sigma 150-600 C... (it’s not as good as the S, right Régis? 😛)







We thought that was the highlight not to miss, but a few miles later, at Seal Point, just before the Piedras Blancas lighthouse, we came across the largest colony of elephant seals on the coast. It was just incredible, and we stayed a long time watching the show put on by this colony.





The chatter, the squabbles.





We immediately recognized the dominant male of the colony—he was much bigger than the others.



About 20 meters away, a younger male tried his luck with a female who didn’t seem indifferent to his charms... So much so that she started responding with special calls! The mood got steamy—I already closed Tim’s eyes... 😛



But tough luck for the young male, because the old grump—with his Rastapopoulos nose and who seemed to be dozing—woke up right away and immediately ran toward his rival to show him who was the strongest!!



No contest, and the young male had to settle for admiring the beauty from afar... 😕

And off we went...
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
We never get tired of the succession of viewpoints along this scenic route!



Big Creek Cove point



Next stop at McWay Falls and McWay Beach, accessible from the entrance to Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park. Most people settle for the classic viewpoint from the road, which offers the best view of the waterfall and the turquoise-blue water!



But by skirting the bay to the south and ignoring a few "no entry" signs, you reach an equally nice viewpoint—with the added bonus of not being backlit in the morning.



Beautiful view of an arch





Another waterfall not visible from the road



We continue our journey northward,



all the way to Bixby Creek Bridge, the iconic viewpoint along Highway 1. From a distance,



Zooming in a bit, we could already tell we wouldn’t be alone!



Lots of people there, and everyone’s snapping selfies like crazy...





Just before Carmel-by-the-Sea, we take a walk in Point Lobos State Reserve. View of Bluefish Cove.





But we found the place overcrowded and overrated—not necessarily prettier than the landscapes we’d been enjoying all morning...
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
We don’t linger at Point Lobos, then head to Carmel-by-the-Sea. This little town is our second favorite spot along the coast. Stunning houses line the streets as you wander through the neighborhoods. There’s no excess in the architecture, but most of them exude an incredible charm. As the Routard would say, *croquignolet* vibes...







But if you want to buy here, you’ll have to wait a while: even the smallest house costs well over a million dollars... Same goes for restaurant or hotel prices... But I’m sure there are some great tips to uncover!

A limousine with its driver, who looks pretty bored waiting for his client



Charming atmosphere in the different streets of the downtown area!







We’re totally smitten with the Normandy Inn—hopefully, we’ll get to stay there next time. 😉





We take a quick stroll on the beach at the end of the main street, then head to the neighboring town of Monterey.

Coastal road,



Then a few streets with Victorian houses, just like in San Francisco!









Later in the afternoon, we head to the Motel 6 in Salinas to pack our bags for the return flight the next day, which goes off without a hitch. 🙂

Wrap-up: A fantastic day spent exploring Highway 1 from San Simeon to Carmel-by-the-Sea, with a wide variety of viewpoints, walking opportunities, and—most of all—the elephant seal colonies that are worth the detour all on their own!
GR Grillonne Regular ·
Hi there! 🙂 This coast is really lovely! Worth considering for a second trip... even though the first one hasn't happened yet! 🤪
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Conclusion: What to remember? We knew the timing wasn’t ideal, with a higher risk of bad weather... Well, we got what we asked for!! Sandstorms, snowstorms, rainstorms! 🤪

But none of it made us regret traveling then, for the simple reason that our favorite moments (not too many over two weeks) required taking this trip in winter: - Death Valley, especially the loop hike starting from Zabriskie Point: Gower Gulch – Golden Canyon - Valley of Fire, which can also be visited in spring without suffering too much heat - The deserts of southern Arizona and California, particularly Organ Pipe Cactus NM, which we were lucky enough to see in bloom!

Just these three spots alone make a winter trip worth it! 😉

Given we probably experienced the worst weather possible in February, if you go, your trip will likely be less chaotic... Plus, you’ll probably avoid the voodoo doll that followed us the whole time! 😏

The big flop of the trip: our 3 days in Kanab-Page, where I’d planned an ultra-packed itinerary (7 days’ worth), but nearly all the outings fell through due to torrential rain the day we arrived...

Two months after returning, we still remember our unforgettable hike in the White Domes as if it happened yesterday—even though it ended in failure.

We also remember our "bad luck" at Joshua Tree with that snow, which turned into an extraordinary stroke of luck far more memorable than an ordinary visit! 😮

I also appreciate the huge help from VF members, who allowed us to pivot quickly and set off on new adventures without a single dull moment. That’s the VF spirit!

Of course, the incredible experience in Organ Pipe NM made me want to find that same vibe in another country. So next summer, we’ll likely explore northwestern Argentina, where we can enjoy desert landscapes with saguaros (around Salta), some Red Rocks, colonial towns, and a bit of adventure on the high plateaus among lagoons, salt flats, and other stone deserts.

Thanks to everyone for keeping this story alive and motivating me to finish writing it!
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
The California coast is really gorgeous under this beautiful sunshine 😎. When we went there a few years ago, we had thick fog 🙁 and yet it was in August 😮. No more travel journal to write... you're gonna be bored now 😛.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Thanks Guillaume for sharing! 🙂
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Not really, I’ve got work to do on Plan B in Lesotho, then finalizing the NOA route—wilder than Peru 😛—and still free from mass tourism... but not for long! And since we’ll be doing a self-drive trip, we can’t afford to get lost in the Puna at 3,500–4,000m. Otherwise, no travel journal... and I won’t be able to convince you to go there either ;)!
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Not really, I’ve got work to do on Plan B for Lesotho, then finalizing the NOA route—wilder than Peru 😛 and still off the mass-tourism radar... but not for long!

It’s true that Peru is way more touristy, but I’ve got a friend who’s dreaming of Machu Picchu, so I promised to take her for her 50th 😎.

And since we’re doing a self-drive trip, we can’t afford to get lost in the Puna at 3,500–4,000m. Otherwise, no travel journal... and I won’t be able to convince you to go either 😉!

Yeah, you’d better not , but now that I’m already tempted by Bolivia, you’re just making my top list even longer...
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Not really, I've got work to do on Plan B in Lesotho, then finalizing the NOA route, which is wilder than Peru 😛, and still free from mass tourism... But it won't last! And since we're doing a self-drive trip, we can't afford to get lost in the Puna at 3,500-4,000m. Otherwise, no travel journal... and I won't be able to convince you to go there next 😉!

And you still find time to work with that schedule? 😛
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
TI Tifi2012 Regular ·
Good evening,

This coast really looks inviting—well, off-season at least... it’s invigorating! But it seems like you’re breaking a lot of rules on this trip. Some other forum member might say, ‘great example for the kids’ 😎

Vinciane
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
And you find time to work with that schedule? 😛

Work... I don’t get the feeling Guillaume works much—he’s always on vacation 😉. On the other hand, Laeticia’s working for two, poor thing 😕.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
TI Tifi2012 Regular ·
It’s weird, I can’t really picture Guillaume getting bored... He’s got tons of roadbooks to prepare for the coming years (up to 2030 at least), Plan Bs, Plan Cs, even Plan C-bis... GPX tracks to create, info to share with all the forum members who ask him, and maybe some tiling if he has any time left! 😊🙂😉😎
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
It's weird, I can't really picture Guillaume getting bored... he's got tons of roadbooks to prepare for the coming years (at least until 2030), Plan Bs, Plan Cs, C-bis... GPX tracks to create, info to share with all the forum members who reach out to him, and maybe some tiling if he has any time left! 🙂😉😎

Yeah, you're right Vinciane, he's so hyperactive... we can barely keep up with all his plans 😉.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
And since we'll be self-driving, we really don’t want to get lost in the Puna at 3,500–4,000m. Otherwise, no travel journal... and I won’t be able to convince you to go there next time 😉!

Yeah, you really don’t want to , but now that I already want to go to Bolivia, you’re just making my top list even longer...

The NOA (Northwest Argentina) has the advantage of being at lower altitudes, so less freezing wind, less cold, and a slightly lower risk of AMS. Plus, except in Antofalla, they at least try to heat the rooms, even if it doesn’t save you from buying expensive -20°C comfort sleeping bags for safety reasons (in case of mechanical breakdown). Also, I forgot to mention... The main reason is that Diamina advised me to do it this way so the kids can acclimatize gradually to high altitudes... and I’m going to follow her expert advice 😉! But like you, I dream of the Bolivian Altiplano for later
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
And you find time to work with that schedule? 😛

Well yeah, yesterday and today, I planned a 12-day sightseeing and hiking trip for my dad in Ardèche and the Vercors 😛...
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
On the other hand, it seems to me you're breaking a lot of rules on this trip—"great example for the kids," as another forum member might say 😎

Yeah, you're right, Vinciane—I feel a little guilty 🤪... But it's so tempting when you see on a map that it's possible to mix things up and get off the beaten path...
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Actually, it was you... and the desire to see the West in winter that drew me in 😉.

I’d definitely like to go back, let’s say in the medium term, but in winter. My dream is to see Monument Valley under snow and go snowshoeing in Yellowstone 😛

I’m between Scherwiller and Lapoutroie, so I know the area. As for tarte flambée, I’m pretty traditional: plain or with cheese 😏 You could make a detour to Darwin in Chatenois—they’re pretty good there.

A +

Jef
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
You could make a detour to Darwin in Chatenois, they’re pretty good there.

Thanks for the tip, we’ll give it a try next time 😉!
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hello Guillaume

the NOA route, wilder than Peru 😛, and still free from mass tourism... But it won’t last! And since we’ll be doing a self-drive,

Were you able to find a "reliable" rental company? That’s one of the issues in the area 🤪

Are you planning to go all the way to Chile? Paso Sico and others?

Cheers,

Jef
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
And were you able to find a "reliable" rental company? That’s one of the issues in this sector

For now, I only have this link, where I found half a dozen agencies that rent real 4x4s: http://www.arodarrentacar.com.ar/ https://www.activarentacar.com/ http://www.rentacarensalta.com/ http://www.andarsalta.com.ar/web/index/flota/ http://www.andinacarrental.com.ar/ http://www.wcrrentacar.com/

But as for reliability, I don’t know... I’ll start a thread about their reliability and do some more digging, since it’s a must for committing to such an adventure...

No plans to venture into Chile—the three weeks are already packed without even diving deep into the possible hikes around Salta, and with only two travel journals read plus some Google Earth research. Later!
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
I’ll be following this with great interest! 🙂

Argentina doesn’t have a great reputation when it comes to rental vehicles 😮.

When we were in Patagonia, we rented in Chile with papers that allowed us to cross the border. Plus, Chile was significantly cheaper for border crossings.
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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
By the way, what about Namibia...? I thought it was in the pipeline for 2020 😛. Oh right, you're waiting for my return to see if I survived... 😕😏.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
By the way, what about Namibia...? I thought it was in the pipeline for 2020 😛. Oh right, you're waiting for my return to see if I survived... 😕😏.

Namibia was my first choice, but after consulting influential family members (the kind who work a lot and haven’t seen any saguaros this winter 😛), some want to switch continents and not do two trips in a row in Southern Africa. I did tell them that South Africa and Namibia have absolutely nothing in common in terms of landscapes and vibe, but oh well... She’d rather discover South America, and since her wishes are my command... 😛 I’m playing it cool for now 😏.

The final decision will depend on ticket prices. Two months ago, flights to Argentina were 550 € from Nice, but now they’re back up to 850 €. We’ll have to keep an eye out for good deals. At least for Namibia, it’s simple: flights are always expensive, at 900 € each... 🤪 So for 5 of us...
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
She’d rather explore South America, and since her wishes are my command... 😛 I’m playing it cool for now 😏.

Someone once told me, "What a woman wants, God wants." I was skeptical, but maybe it’s true 😏.

The final decision will depend on flight prices. Two months ago, tickets to Argentina were 550 € from Nice, but now they’re back up to 850 €. We’ll have to watch for good deals. At least for Namibia, it’s simple: flights are always expensive, at 900 € each... 🤪 So for 5 people...

Yeah, with 5 people, the costs add up fast 🙁. 550 € for Latin America? That’s not too bad—I’m looking at Peru, and there’s hardly anything under 900–1000 €. For Namibia, we couldn’t find anything for August under 1100 € 😕. Maybe July is a bit cheaper... Ugh, planning these vacations is such a headache 😇.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
VA Valmichel86 Regular ·
Thanks for this fascinating account—I followed it with a bit of a delay after it was written. After my first trip to the West in Oregon last year, I’m heading back in a few days, and your travel journal (along with your previous ones) has been really helpful in my planning. I mostly focused on the first few days, which overlap with some of what I’ve got planned to see.

Michel
Valmichel86
NO Noyellebis Veteran ·
Safe travels, Michel !!!! 🙂
SO Sonia67 Veteran ·
Have a nice trip Michel

SONIA
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Thanks Michel. Enjoy yourself—you’re so lucky to be able to go at the best time! 🙂 !
DI Didier10 Regular ·
Hi Guillaume, I just found your travel journal, and of course I’m super interested because in September/October we’ll be passing through Death Valley—and White Domes too, I’m taking notes ;)! That family enthusiasm is always contagious. Gotta get back to reading now!
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hi Guillaume,

I’ve been swamped with work lately...

then finalize the NOA route, wilder than Peru 😛, and still free from mass tourism... But it won’t last!

In places like that, mass tourism has very little chance of developing: - very few accommodation options, - just landscapes to look at, and if you don’t speak Spanish, well, it’s almost worse than in Turkey when you don’t speak Turkish! - the Chinese haven’t invaded Argentina yet...

And since we’ll be self-driving, we’d better not get lost in the Puna at 3,500–4,000m. Otherwise, no travel journal... and I won’t be able to convince you to go there too 😉!

Tttttut... You don’t get lost in the Puna... There are no roads (just tracks)!!! And actually, the Puna is between 3,500 and 5,000m, but watch out for Google—some real tracks aren’t marked!! So it’s really hard to estimate real distances! That’s why it’s best to fill up the tank.

For now, I only have this link, where I found half a dozen agencies that rent real 4x4s

Once you’ve filled out all the forms and they’ve sent you the prices, I’d be really curious to hear about them, and especially whether they accept credit cards and if you’re allowed to take the vehicles on the tracks!!

The final choice will depend on flight prices. Two months ago, tickets to Argentina were 550 € from Nice, but now they’re back up to 850 €. We’ll have to watch for good deals.

Flight tickets to Argentina for 550 €!!!!!!!! Which airline?

The NOA has the advantage of being at lower altitudes, so less freezing wind, less cold, and a slightly lower risk of AMS. Plus, except in Antofalla, they make an effort to heat the rooms, even if it doesn’t replace buying expensive -20°C comfort sleeping bags for safety reasons (in case of mechanical breakdown).

I’ve never bought a -20°C comfort sleeping bag just in case!!!! We had old, basic sleeping bags bought at Walmart in Mendoza. They were more than enough, even in Antofalla where the temperature was around -14°C at night.

In August, temperatures are quite manageable, around 0°C during the day, 😉 at 4,000m! The wind is the biggest problem!!😊 Be careful—it’s not all of the NOA that’s at lower altitudes; many passes exceed 4,500m. It’s mainly the accommodations that are at lower altitudes!!!😄 And that’s great for ensuring better nights of sleep!

Also, I forgot... The main reason is that Diamina advised me to do it this way so the kids can acclimatize gradually to high altitudes... and I’m going to follow her expert advice 😉!

I’m no expert at all!!!! 😇I’m not even an expert on Martinique, can you imagine!!!😏 The Argentine Puna, with its pumice stone fields, the Galan Volcano and its Laguna Diamante, the Antofalla salt flat—it’s every bit as stunning as the southern Lipez region!

Do you speak Spanish?

Have a great trip to Lesotho. Is that right?
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Hi Didier, Yeah, I saw you’re about to head out again for like the tenth time! Happy reading! 🙂
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Hi Diamina,

Tttttut.... You don’t get lost in the puna.... There are no roads (tracks) like that!!! And actually, the puna is between 3,500 and 5,000 m, but watch out for Google—real tracks aren’t marked there!!

I know people who prefer driving next to the track rather than ON it 😛! Apparently, it shakes less... All the traces for the 10 days in the Puna are already ready. I don’t use Google Maps, which doesn’t seem very reliable, but only Google Earth to spot the tracks, and Maps to confirm. Then I transfer them to OSM maps, which are just as reliable as GE and Maps. Dozens of hours of prep to feel at ease once there, at least on that level. For mechanics and fuel, that’s another story. A huge THANK YOU, by the way, for your two travel journals—they’re an invaluable help for prep 😇!

So it’s really hard to estimate real distances! So it’s better to plan a well-filled tank.

With the planned days in Tolar Grande, Antofalla, and Antofagasta, that’ll be 950 km without a gas pump—we’ll fill up on nafta from locals (you see, I’ve already learned the lesson...😄). We’ll need 2-3 jerry cans.

Once you’ve filled out all the forms and they’ve sent you the prices, I’d be really curious to hear about it, and especially if they accept credit cards, and if you’re allowed to go on the tracks with the rental!!

Now you’re making me a little nervous... We’ll need to find the rental company before buying the tickets, and I’ll keep you posted.

Tickets to Argentina for 550 €!!!!!!!! Which airline?

Lufthansa flight from Nice to Buenos Aires, Thursday 11/07 to Saturday 03/08, barely more expensive with a Friday departure! The deal lasted 15 days in March, then prices went back to normal 😕 We’ll look for departures from Barcelona instead.

It was more than enough, even in Antofalla where the temperature was around -14°C at night.

If we can settle for a cozy -12°C, our wallet will thank you!

Be careful, not all of the NOA is at lower altitudes—many passes exceed 4,500m

Yeah, I saw that. For the first time, in my itinerary table, I’ve included the min and max altitudes for each day. It’s quite the rollercoaster: for example, the Tuzgle volcano at 5,330 m, the pass to the gold mountain and Laguna Diamante at over 5,000, or even Mina Julia at over 5,000 m! By the way, Mina Julia still doesn’t seem accessible—the last 7 km have been snowed in since your 2016 attempt!! On Google Earth, you can even see a big pile of shoveled snow 😛😏!

The Argentine puna, with the campo de piedras pomes, el volcán galán and its laguna diamante, and its salar de Antofalla, has nothing to envy the southern Lipez—it’s the main thing!!

Uhhh... Campo de Piedra Gomes and Salar de Antofalla, I’ll take your word for it... But Volcán Galán and its Laguna Diamante? I have a small, or rather a big, doubt 😉. It seems to me you compensated the guide so he wouldn’t say you didn’t go, and he even charged you for 2 nice jerry cans of fuel 😏!! Unless I missed an episode...

Do you speak Spanish?

Maxime speaks a little, and I’m going to do a year of intensive training because I don’t know any at all—except for La Liga soccer matches! And it seems more than essential in those areas off the tourist highways. Have a great day.
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey, if you’ve started a thread about this, point me to it so we can keep chatting about Argentina outside of your West USA travel journal... that said, I had way fewer mishaps there than you did in the US in winter!!!

I know some people who’d rather drive next to the track than ON it 😛! Apparently, it shakes less...

I know some who’ve read my travel journal well... That said, we were driving on the track because the paved road was so full of potholes it was unbearable. But the track ran parallel to what was left of the paved road. Maybe the road’s been redone since—roadworks were underway when we passed!

A huge THANK YOU, by the way, for your two travel journals—they’re an invaluable help for prep !

You’re welcome... back then, a certain Max was supposed to go!!!!! I wrote the journal thinking of those who were leaving soon after...

With the planned days in Tolar Grande, Antofalla, and Antofagasta, that’ll be 950 km without a gas pump, so we’ll fill up on *nafta* from locals (see, I’ve already learned the lesson... ). We’ll need 2-3 jerry cans.

Why? There’s a woman who sells gas in Tolar Grande, and there’s a gas station and a man selling gas in Antofagasta de la Sierra. I think filling up with these folks has an unmatched folkloric vibe! 2 jerry cans for safety is good. Olivier 13031 talks about it here.

This worries me a bit... We’ll need to find the rental company before buying the tickets, and I’ll keep you posted.

Oh no, don’t worry!!!! Things change fast in Argentina, so I’m just curious.

You’re lucky—in France, there are tons of airlines to choose from. In Martinique, it’s American Airlines with a layover in Miami, or a bunch of flights via Barbados...

If we can settle for -12°C comfort, our wallet will thank you!

Yeah, and honestly, I have no idea how warm the sleeping bags we bought were, but they were *super* low-end. You know Walmarts in the US? Well, imagine something way worse—that’s Mendoza’s version!!!

By the way, Mina Julia still doesn’t seem accessible—the last 7 km are still snowed in since your 2016 attempt! On Google Earth, you can even see a huge pile of shoveled snow 😛!

All the more reason for you to go!!!! No way we should be the only ones to get stuck in a snowdrift!!!!! But honestly, I’d rather be snowed in *in* a car than on foot with an innocent kid on my back!!!! But we do have one thing in common—we’re both great at finding trouble! Anyway, I’m heading back to Chile at the end of July, and I *really* hope to visit Nevado Tres Cruces Park near the Argentine border. I haven’t planned anything yet... just the tickets are bought.

But Volcán Galán and its Laguna Diamante—I have a small, or rather a *big* doubt 😉. It seems like you paid off the guide so he wouldn’t say you didn’t go, and he even charged you for 2 nice jerry cans of gas !! Unless I missed an episode...

For a second, I thought about letting you figure it out.... Even if we didn’t go, I’ve seen photos, and I can confirm that Olivier 30130 went with guide Horacio. Check out message 25!!!

That’s the main reason I’d go back!! Maybe this year, who knows? I haven’t planned my 3-week itinerary yet.

Maxime speaks a little, and I’ll do a year of intensive training since I don’t know any Spanish at all—except for La Liga soccer matches! And it seems *more* than essential in those off-the-tourist-highway spots.

That’ll motivate you to improve fast. Think it’s easier than Turkish???????? 😛

See you soon!
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hey there, musician! 🙂

You're welcome... back then, a certain Max was supposed to go!!!!!🤪 I made the travel journal thinking of those who were leaving shortly after...

It's the elasticity of time... 😊

Anyway, your travel journals are really great, and when the time finally comes, they’ll be useful... not just to make us dream 🙂.

The biggest issue is that the best time is October (just like for southern Lipez), and in October, it’s hard to get away for more than 10 days.😕

By the way, I’m heading back to Chile at the end of July, and I really hope to visit Nevado Tres Cruces National Park, near the Argentine border. I haven’t prepared anything yet...

Looks like an amazing plan ahead... otherwise, it reminds me that I need to seriously dive into planning this summer’s itinerary. 😮
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DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey Max,

Otherwise, it reminds me that I really need to dive into planning this summer’s itinerary. 😮

Sometimes, a little improvisation is great too!!!

The biggest issue is that the best time is October (like for the southern Lipez), and in October, it’s hard to get away for more than 10 days.😕

What perspective are you coming from? I went to southern Lipez during the austral winter, and it was amazing!!! Even when some passes are heavily snowed in, most of the time, you just have to wait until December to get through!

There’s a forum member, Marclamarre, who gave it a shot in southern Lipez in January.

Anyway, your travel journals are super nice, and when the time finally comes, they’ll be useful... not just to make us dream 🙂

Thanks..... Well, ......... apart from the one about Ladakh, you mean😉

Happy planning.
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DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey Guillaume,

About the hike at Zabriskie Point, wouldn’t you say the Golden Canyon section is the most interesting of all? In case some folks who aren’t absolute hiking fans are wondering which part is really worth it, you know?[🤪]

Since we’re backlit, you should always turn around to soak in the view. I think it would’ve been better to do the loop the other way: Golden Canyon first, then Gower Gulch.

I’ll keep in mind that we’ll start with Golden Canyon anyway.

I can see a trail branching off to the left, which might reconnect with the Golden Canyon Trail. The kids prefer backtracking, even if it means a detour, rather than taking a trail that could lead to a dead end and a big detour as punishment.

Could that be a solution?[🤪]
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Hi Diamina,

I can see a trail branching off to the left, which might reconnect with the Golden Canyon Trail. The kids prefer backtracking, even if it means a detour, rather than taking a path that could lead to a dead end and a long detour as punishment.

Could this be a solution?🤪

I wouldn’t recommend this route because you have to climb a steep, slippery hill. Two of us slipped, so with JF’s knee issues... 🤪

The best option is to go back up Golden Canyon along a gentle 1.5 km incline and turn right at the sign at the Golden/Red Cathedral fork (you can’t miss it). Then the real climb begins, with Red Cathedral on your left and this stunning trail. It’s pretty steep, so just turn back whenever you’ve had enough.



The following route is 2.2 km one way: 1.5 km of gentle incline and 700 m of ascent to the best viewpoints. There’s no need to go further because you’ll end up with the same views as Zabriskie Point without the extra walking.



In red, our route, and in blue, the 2.2 km one-way trail. That said, it’d be a shame not to hike a few hundred meters uphill, because the panorama is absolutely worth the effort 😇 😇!

I’d recommend catching the sunrise at Zabriskie Point, but don’t rush off right after the first rays (like most people do), then head to Golden Canyon.
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey Guillaume,

Thanks for the tips. We’ll follow them—I’m adding them to my road book.
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
I’m posting this message just in case to try and reactivate the inboxes of some forum members who might not have heard that VF is back up and running 😉. For those who are interested, I’m starting the travel journal of the Southwest Must-Sees for fall 2022... Link HERE

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