informations sur la Compagnie Egyptair
by Yniold
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
nous partons le 2 mai pour le caire puis louxor. C' est la première fois que nous prenons egyptair. Pouvez-vous me donner quelques infos sur leurs avions, leurs prestations ?
J' ai pris deux fois Egyptair. Tout s' était bien passé, rien de spécial à signaler à part qu' à notre grande surprise la compagnie accepte que les gens fument à bord !! 🤪 Ainsi on a été "enfumé" tout le vol et bien sur à l' intérieur d' un avion la ventilation n' est pas extraordinaire... Par contre je ne sais pas s' il y a une zone non-fumeur dans la cabine, au guichet d' embarquement on ne nous l' avait pas proposé en tout cas. N' oubliez pas de le demander quand vous partez.
Prestations correctes, rien à signaler. par contre, je ne sais si c'est la même chose pour la France mais de belgique leurs horaires sont immondes !
Chinook
Chinook
Chinook
Vous ètes sur pour vos histoires de vol fumeur!! Je croyais que c'était interdit maintenant
Libertad o muerte
Certain ! Je ne l' ai pas revée la fumée ! 😄
autre info : la flotte est en excellent etat, avec un peu de chance en regardant sur le site d'ADP (si vous partez de paris) en recherchant les horaires de votre vol (meme si vous les connaissez deja) vous pourrez connaitre sur quel appareil vous volerez. Ensuite sur le site d'EgyptAir (voir lien suivant : http://www.egyptair.com.eg/docs/inside/insideaircraft.htm ) vous pourrez en cliquant sur le type d'appareil utilisé, visualiser la configuration interieur et le placement des sieges et eds zones fumeurs ou non-fumeur.
voila. Bon voyage.
loic
voila. Bon voyage.
loic
Je reviens vers car d'après mes petites recherche, tu dois partir le 02/05/2005 pour le caire au départ de paris Orly sud sur un vol Egyptair MS800 décollage prévu à 16H00 (heure française) sur un Airbus A330-200 quasiment neuf puisque le premier a été livré à la compagnie le 21 Juin 2004.
Le plan de configuration intérieur n'est pas visible sur le site de la compagnie mais je crois savoir qu'il y a 275 places dont 263 en classe eco (tu trouvera ci join un plan interieur d'un A330-200 configuré pour 193 personnes, a prioris seul le nombre de place en première différe avec la configuration prise chez EgyptAir. L'A330-200 est connu pour etr eun avion tres confortable et spacieux. En classe eco les sièges sont séparé de 81cm (mesure entre le bord du dossier du siège précedent et le debut du dossier de ton siège) ce qui est on ne peut plus correcte.
Tiens j'ai meme trouvé une photo de ton avion, tu trouveras les 2 fichiers attachés à ce message.
Voila @ plus
Le plan de configuration intérieur n'est pas visible sur le site de la compagnie mais je crois savoir qu'il y a 275 places dont 263 en classe eco (tu trouvera ci join un plan interieur d'un A330-200 configuré pour 193 personnes, a prioris seul le nombre de place en première différe avec la configuration prise chez EgyptAir. L'A330-200 est connu pour etr eun avion tres confortable et spacieux. En classe eco les sièges sont séparé de 81cm (mesure entre le bord du dossier du siège précedent et le debut du dossier de ton siège) ce qui est on ne peut plus correcte.
Tiens j'ai meme trouvé une photo de ton avion, tu trouveras les 2 fichiers attachés à ce message.
Voila @ plus
Je me souviens d'un fait étrange, il y a quatre ou cinq ans, lors de notre vol Paris le Caire sur Egypt Air qui m'avait étonné et un peu inquiété:
Alors que nous voguions dans les airs depuis déjà quelques temps, j'eu soudain une envie de fumer pressante, et comme je ne voulais pas importuner les autres passagers (je fume la pipe), je me suis dirigé vers le compartiment des hotesses et stewarts. En arrivant à cet endroit, le rideau de séparation était entrouvert, et j'ai pu admirer les "postérieurs" des stewarts qui étaient en train de ....😮
Mais non, pas ce que vous pensez 🤪 ! Ils avaient juste étalés leur tapis de prière sur le sol en diagonale de l'axe de l'avion (certainement tournés vers la mecque), et étaient en train de faire leur prière! Je me suis mis à penser que peut-être à ce moment même, les pilotes et copilotes étaient en train de faire la même chose dans le cockpit, et j'ai espéré qu'ils rendaient un hommage au prophète, et non qu'ils offraient nos âmes aux dieux pour cause d'incident majeur😕
Quand j'ai eu fini de fumer ma pipe en espérant que je n'allais pas me la casser😉, ils se sont relevés et ont continué normalement leur travail.
Le voyage étant relativement long, j'ai recommencé ce manège deux fois, et à chaque fois je suis tombé sur le même cérémonial.
Je n'ai pas osé aller, pendant la phase d'attérissage, dans le cockpit pour voir si l'équipe naviguante était à cheval sur son tapis volant😏
En tout cas, tout s'est bien passé, et je garde un souvenir très correct de la compagnie; je me souviens toutefois d'un de leur vol dont l'avion avait mal fermé sa porte de soute arrière, celle ci s'est ouverte en vol, et une bonne partie des baggages des passagers sont tombés à la mer😠
Bon voyage
Christian
Alors que nous voguions dans les airs depuis déjà quelques temps, j'eu soudain une envie de fumer pressante, et comme je ne voulais pas importuner les autres passagers (je fume la pipe), je me suis dirigé vers le compartiment des hotesses et stewarts. En arrivant à cet endroit, le rideau de séparation était entrouvert, et j'ai pu admirer les "postérieurs" des stewarts qui étaient en train de ....😮
Mais non, pas ce que vous pensez 🤪 ! Ils avaient juste étalés leur tapis de prière sur le sol en diagonale de l'axe de l'avion (certainement tournés vers la mecque), et étaient en train de faire leur prière! Je me suis mis à penser que peut-être à ce moment même, les pilotes et copilotes étaient en train de faire la même chose dans le cockpit, et j'ai espéré qu'ils rendaient un hommage au prophète, et non qu'ils offraient nos âmes aux dieux pour cause d'incident majeur😕
Quand j'ai eu fini de fumer ma pipe en espérant que je n'allais pas me la casser😉, ils se sont relevés et ont continué normalement leur travail.
Le voyage étant relativement long, j'ai recommencé ce manège deux fois, et à chaque fois je suis tombé sur le même cérémonial.
Je n'ai pas osé aller, pendant la phase d'attérissage, dans le cockpit pour voir si l'équipe naviguante était à cheval sur son tapis volant😏
En tout cas, tout s'est bien passé, et je garde un souvenir très correct de la compagnie; je me souviens toutefois d'un de leur vol dont l'avion avait mal fermé sa porte de soute arrière, celle ci s'est ouverte en vol, et une bonne partie des baggages des passagers sont tombés à la mer😠
Bon voyage
Christian
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
je comprend tout l'effet de surprise d'une telle scene, quoique tout a fait normal si l'on part du principe que la religion musulmane est majoritaire en egypte et que fidèle à celle-ci l'equipage fait sa prière et ne sert pas d'alcool à bord.
le pilote et copilote peuvent en faire de meme si l'on considère que sur un moyen courrier, + de 50% du temps l'avion est en pilotage automatique.
concernant l'incident. je ne pense pas que cela soit la faute de la compagnie, car comme dans tout les aeroport, ce sont de sociétés privées et étrangère à la compagnie, qui s'occupent de mettre les bagages en soute et autres.
le pilote et copilote peuvent en faire de meme si l'on considère que sur un moyen courrier, + de 50% du temps l'avion est en pilotage automatique.
concernant l'incident. je ne pense pas que cela soit la faute de la compagnie, car comme dans tout les aeroport, ce sont de sociétés privées et étrangère à la compagnie, qui s'occupent de mettre les bagages en soute et autres.
Amusant...
Moi s'etait sur MEA (les Libanais), entre Istanbul et Beyrouth... J'avais herite d'une issue de secours dans l'A321, et face a moi le siege hotesse, en sens inverse des autres et repliable ; au moment du decollage, elle s'assieds, s'attache, et tres serieusement se met a ... prier 😉... (une chretienne).
Heureusement que je ne suis pas trop impressionnable..
Michel
Moi s'etait sur MEA (les Libanais), entre Istanbul et Beyrouth... J'avais herite d'une issue de secours dans l'A321, et face a moi le siege hotesse, en sens inverse des autres et repliable ; au moment du decollage, elle s'assieds, s'attache, et tres serieusement se met a ... prier 😉... (une chretienne).
Heureusement que je ne suis pas trop impressionnable..
Michel
encore merci pour ces nouvelles infos. Qu'il est beau, l'Aiiiirbussss !!!
en revanche, j'espère qu'egyptair, le 5 mai, ne va pas supprimer encore un, vol (cair-loux) sinon, je dois rester squatter le mena house ( 15h30 annulé, 18h20 annulé, je me retrouve sur le 21h sans savoir s'il sera maintenu !).
Bon, tout de même, je pinaille un peu, mais air france est plus reposant en terme de préparation vacances (mais c'est mon côté tout doit marcher pour satisfaire mes petites envies de citadine bourgeoise : donc, je me calme et vais repartir examiner le plan de l'airbus pour passer le temps)
merci ! (ah, j'oubliais, comme en plus, j'ai peur en avion, si j'en vois un faire sa prière, peu importe le motif, je vais faire un infarctus !!!!!!!)
en revanche, j'espère qu'egyptair, le 5 mai, ne va pas supprimer encore un, vol (cair-loux) sinon, je dois rester squatter le mena house ( 15h30 annulé, 18h20 annulé, je me retrouve sur le 21h sans savoir s'il sera maintenu !).
Bon, tout de même, je pinaille un peu, mais air france est plus reposant en terme de préparation vacances (mais c'est mon côté tout doit marcher pour satisfaire mes petites envies de citadine bourgeoise : donc, je me calme et vais repartir examiner le plan de l'airbus pour passer le temps)
merci ! (ah, j'oubliais, comme en plus, j'ai peur en avion, si j'en vois un faire sa prière, peu importe le motif, je vais faire un infarctus !!!!!!!)
encore moi. Puisque tu sembles adorer les avions, je continues à poser des questions.
J'ai acheté un loux_par via cair, le 11 mai avec un départ 7h55, arrrivée le caire 8h55 et départ pour paris 11h.
Trop tard pour changer, les billets sont émis. Le changement en 2 heures est-il périlleux ? Faisable ?
Ou bien mes vacances vont-elles être prolongées malgré moi ?
A bientôt pour ta réponse (je suis sûre que tu as la bonne info !)
J'ai acheté un loux_par via cair, le 11 mai avec un départ 7h55, arrrivée le caire 8h55 et départ pour paris 11h.
Trop tard pour changer, les billets sont émis. Le changement en 2 heures est-il périlleux ? Faisable ?
Ou bien mes vacances vont-elles être prolongées malgré moi ?
A bientôt pour ta réponse (je suis sûre que tu as la bonne info !)
A prioris je dirai que 2 heures pour faire la correspondance c'est on ne peut plus suffisant, il faut seulement espérer que tes baggages suivent... mais il y a de fortes chance que tu ne changes meme pas d'avions, ton avions fera louxor - Paris via Le caire pour embarquer de nouveaux passagers. quoiqu'il en soit je ne pense pas que cela soit un problème.
Petite question car je n'ai jamais pris Egypt'air, mais qui concerne la prière sur leur vols... Si les passagers doivent faire la prière pour X raison et que des turbulences interviennent? Ou si tous, une centaine de personne, veut prier en même temps, et que les plateaux repas sont en cours de "livraison", qu'est-ce qui se passe?
Voyager, c'est ma devise...
Bonjour,
Il y a un élément dans ton explication que je ne comprends pas:
De nombreuses compagnies de pays majortairement musulmans (Syrian Air, Mea ) ou tres majoritairement musulmans et certains à 99% ( Royal Air Maroc, Tunisair, Gulf Air, Quatar Airways, Biman Bengladesh airlines, .... ) servent de l'alcool aux passagers qui le souhaitent !
L'Egypte compte une minorité chrétienne importante (qui a le droit de faire partie de la compagnie nationale ou de l'utiliser pour voyager....enfin je l'espere!!) et des voyageurs business et touristiques qui ne sont pas forcement musulmans.
Certaines compagnies de pays musulmans ayant une vision "traditionnelle" ou autre (chacun la qualifiera comme il le souhaite et le pense) ) ne servent pas d'alcool: Iran, Arabie Saoudite, Soudan....
Il y a un élément dans ton explication que je ne comprends pas:
De nombreuses compagnies de pays majortairement musulmans (Syrian Air, Mea ) ou tres majoritairement musulmans et certains à 99% ( Royal Air Maroc, Tunisair, Gulf Air, Quatar Airways, Biman Bengladesh airlines, .... ) servent de l'alcool aux passagers qui le souhaitent !
L'Egypte compte une minorité chrétienne importante (qui a le droit de faire partie de la compagnie nationale ou de l'utiliser pour voyager....enfin je l'espere!!) et des voyageurs business et touristiques qui ne sont pas forcement musulmans.
Certaines compagnies de pays musulmans ayant une vision "traditionnelle" ou autre (chacun la qualifiera comme il le souhaite et le pense) ) ne servent pas d'alcool: Iran, Arabie Saoudite, Soudan....
je ne peux malheureusement pas te donner plus d'explications, je ne fais que relater les faits dont on m'a informé. Il est vrai les khopts chrétiens d'egypte sont encore présent, mais je ne peux pas dire pourquoi l'alcool n'est pas servi à bord des avions egyptair. Je n'y vois personnellement aucun inconvenient etant donné que je ne fume ni ne bois, mais je comprend que cela puisse géner certaines personnes. Une seule chose à faire, écrire à la compagnie via son site web :
www.egyptaire.com.eg
je pars demain sur un vol Air Cairo. Airbus A321-200, je vous raconterai...
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www.egyptaire.com.eg
je pars demain sur un vol Air Cairo. Airbus A321-200, je vous raconterai...
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oui mais les faits dont on a informé sont partiaux ...
on peut être sur une compagnie d'un pays majortairement musulmans et pouvoir demander ce que l'on veut comme ne pas pouvoir le faire dans d'autres!
Le fait d'interdire est révélateur d'une vision des choses. je ne vais pas écrire à la compagnie pour changer la politique egyptienne....!
Par contre ce soir, je vois un copain egyptien et nous allons boire ensemble un bon verre de vin!
Bon voyage
on peut être sur une compagnie d'un pays majortairement musulmans et pouvoir demander ce que l'on veut comme ne pas pouvoir le faire dans d'autres!
Le fait d'interdire est révélateur d'une vision des choses. je ne vais pas écrire à la compagnie pour changer la politique egyptienne....!
Par contre ce soir, je vois un copain egyptien et nous allons boire ensemble un bon verre de vin!
Bon voyage
Interdit de fumer à bord des avions !!! Un conseil faite attention, je ne connais pas la réglementation des pays étranger mais en France sa pourrait aller très mal à l'atterissage.
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Antoine K. and as your chief purser. I am pleased to welcome you aboard this Airbus 380. Boarding is finished by now. We shall be leaving shortly for JFK. The cabin crew is now doing safety demonstration.
effectivement il n'y a pas d'alcool sur Egyptair, mais vous verrez les vols sont super agréables, je fais Bruxelles-Le Caire 3 à 4 fois par an !
Bonjour
Je suis surpris par l'histoire des vols fumeurs. J'étais en Egypte il y a 3 ans et tous les vols étaient non fumeurs, ça a peut-être changé. Du reste rien de particulier, j'ai pris des A320 A321 A300 et B737 tous étaient plutôt en bon état, le service était très correct et il y avait de la place pour les jambes. Pas une seule minute de retard.
Le personnel était bof moins question aimabilité à chaque fois que ce soit à l'éroport ou dans les avions mais bon...
J'ai quant même trouvé le prix un peu execessif sur les vols intérieurs.
Sinon RAS c'est quand même une compagnie que je reprendrai si l'occasion se représente.
Je suis surpris par l'histoire des vols fumeurs. J'étais en Egypte il y a 3 ans et tous les vols étaient non fumeurs, ça a peut-être changé. Du reste rien de particulier, j'ai pris des A320 A321 A300 et B737 tous étaient plutôt en bon état, le service était très correct et il y avait de la place pour les jambes. Pas une seule minute de retard.
Le personnel était bof moins question aimabilité à chaque fois que ce soit à l'éroport ou dans les avions mais bon...
J'ai quant même trouvé le prix un peu execessif sur les vols intérieurs.
Sinon RAS c'est quand même une compagnie que je reprendrai si l'occasion se représente.
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
Pour le non-alcool, il peut y avoir une explication autre que religieuse... Certains passagers abusent (par peur de l'avion notamment) et cela entraine parfois/souvent des comportements désagréables que les PNC doivent régler... Je ne suis pas pour les interdits mais je le comprends d'une certaine manière. Personnellement, c'est vrai que j'aime bien un petit whisky coca pour m'assoupir un peu au début du vol, mais tout réside dans la modération.
J'ai quant même trouvé le prix un peu execessif sur les vols intérieurs.
Sur le site internet d'Egypt'air, j'ai trouvé des vols interieurs CAI/LXR a 55 euros TTC l'aller retour pour le mois de mai en les reservant hier pour le 22 mai prochain. En revanche, il faut accepter de partir tot le matin (decollages vers 7h30). Les prix varient du simple au triple a quelques heures de départ d'intervalle.
Sur le site internet d'Egypt'air, j'ai trouvé des vols interieurs CAI/LXR a 55 euros TTC l'aller retour pour le mois de mai en les reservant hier pour le 22 mai prochain. En revanche, il faut accepter de partir tot le matin (decollages vers 7h30). Les prix varient du simple au triple a quelques heures de départ d'intervalle.
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Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi,
Air Cairo offers good prices on domestic flights and schedules that work for us, but is this airline reliable?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
Hi there,
I have a question...
Has anyone managed to get a refund from Oman Air?
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
Hi!
Sri Lanka has announced it could run out of fuel in the coming weeks if the Strait of Hormuz remains blocked. The government has implemented a mandatory four-day workweek to save oil, and there are long lines at gas stations due to fears of an early shortage.
In Vietnam, the government has warned all airlines that flights will need to be reduced due to a lack of kerosene. The country imports two-thirds of its jet fuel from China and Thailand, but both countries have now banned exports out of fear of domestic shortages.
The state is asking airlines to plan ahead and park aircraft to drastically reduce operations, starting with domestic flights and then international ones. International carriers will also need to cut back on their rotations.
This will begin in the coming days. 🙁
Hi there,
I’ve got a long layover (about 10 hours) in Seoul on an upcoming trip.
I arrive from Phnom Penh at 7:20 AM and depart for Montreal at 6:00 PM.
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!





