Prix traversée Ancône (Italie) Zadar (Croatie) et conseils sur logement en Croatie
by Jojopique
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
😉 J'aurais voulu avoir quelques infos quant au prix de latraversée Ancône( Italie) Zadar sachant qu'il faut compter ma voiture et que nous sommes quatre personnes. De plus si l'on pouvais me donner des tuyaux sur des campings biens, pas chers....
Pour la traversée, je ne sais pas. Moi j'avais fait tout le trajet en voiture.
Si non, pour le camping, il y a un principe de base: plus tu descends et moins c'est cher. Si tu passe par l'intérieur des terres, c'est moins cher aussi.
Petit conseil pour la route et la traversée en bac: les infrastructures sont nettement sous dimentionnées en Croatie alors il faut être patient... Ca m'étonnerai que tu dépasses le 80 km/h sur la route qui longe le litoral. La route est superbe mais surchargée. N'hésites pas à prendre des axes plus dans les terres si tu veux gagner du temps (tu verras des traces impressionantes de la guerre alors que tout a été reconstruit sur le litoral, d'ailleurs tu verras, tous les toits sont neufs !)
PS: Ne te fies pas trop au guide du routard, celui de la Croatie est nul (il faut dire que nous avions la première édition: 2002-2003. A moins qu'ils ne l'aient nettement remis à jour...)
Si non, pour le camping, il y a un principe de base: plus tu descends et moins c'est cher. Si tu passe par l'intérieur des terres, c'est moins cher aussi.
Petit conseil pour la route et la traversée en bac: les infrastructures sont nettement sous dimentionnées en Croatie alors il faut être patient... Ca m'étonnerai que tu dépasses le 80 km/h sur la route qui longe le litoral. La route est superbe mais surchargée. N'hésites pas à prendre des axes plus dans les terres si tu veux gagner du temps (tu verras des traces impressionantes de la guerre alors que tout a été reconstruit sur le litoral, d'ailleurs tu verras, tous les toits sont neufs !)
PS: Ne te fies pas trop au guide du routard, celui de la Croatie est nul (il faut dire que nous avions la première édition: 2002-2003. A moins qu'ils ne l'aient nettement remis à jour...)
« Le paradis n'est pas sur la terre, mais il y en a des morceaux » Jules Renard
Pourquoi limité ta réflexion qu'a la Croatie, le guide moustache est nul tous court !!! (sauf pour savoir ou dormire de temps en temps !!!!), vive loonly...
Bon pour le rest tu as bien décrit les route de croatie, sauf pour les 80km/h, sur certaine route de la cote, les croate vont beaucoup, mais alors beaucou plus vite ...
Pour la traversé en bateau, sa serait dommage, tu aurat de super paysage entre tes deux destination !!!
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Philo
Bon pour le rest tu as bien décrit les route de croatie, sauf pour les 80km/h, sur certaine route de la cote, les croate vont beaucoup, mais alors beaucou plus vite ...
Pour la traversé en bateau, sa serait dommage, tu aurat de super paysage entre tes deux destination !!!
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Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
le guide moustache est particulièrement nul pour la Croatie. Cela dit, il a le mérite de t'indiquer où sont les français, histoire de les éviter si tu veux du dépaysement... 😉
PS: en plus, lorsqu'il t'indique un prix, ils se sont fait roulés à tous les coups (et là ce n'est pas réservé qu'au guide de Croatie ! )
PS: en plus, lorsqu'il t'indique un prix, ils se sont fait roulés à tous les coups (et là ce n'est pas réservé qu'au guide de Croatie ! )
« Le paradis n'est pas sur la terre, mais il y en a des morceaux » Jules Renard
Ha mince je pensait être le seul a utilisé la technique du guide pour évité les francais, LOL
Philo
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
J'ai pas prit le bateaix, par contre c'est trés largement fesable de le faire en 3 semaine (je trouve sa trés long d'ailleur) par ce que mise a pas La ville du sud, quand tu remonte c'est sur c'est tres beau, mais au bout d'un momant tu te lace de ces magnifique paysage et des cars d'allemands
Bon aller hein, sinon faut passée a Zagreb, y'as pas trop de touriste (pour te dire on a galèrer a trouvé des cartes postales ..) et mes yeux se souvienne encore des agréables formes de la ville (il faut lire netre les mots ...) ...
Un conseille évite juste l'ambassade des Etats Unies le 10 septembre au soir, nous ils ont pas trop apprécier qu'on tente de ce garé au pied du batiment et nous on gentiment manacé avec un AK 47 ...
Philo
Bon aller hein, sinon faut passée a Zagreb, y'as pas trop de touriste (pour te dire on a galèrer a trouvé des cartes postales ..) et mes yeux se souvienne encore des agréables formes de la ville (il faut lire netre les mots ...) ...
Un conseille évite juste l'ambassade des Etats Unies le 10 septembre au soir, nous ils ont pas trop apprécier qu'on tente de ce garé au pied du batiment et nous on gentiment manacé avec un AK 47 ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
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J'y suis allé 4 semaines. Pour remonter, une grosse journée suffit, si tu remontes par les routes intérieures.
Si tu part d'une île, prévoie une journée de plus, au cas où...
Lorsque j'ai quitté l'île de Hvar, à ma grande surprise il y avait une file d'attente de plusieurs km. Résultat: je suis resté une journée de plus sur l'île, car lorsque mon tour est arrivé, j'ai vu partir le dernier bateau (c'est mon chef qui était content, lorsque je me suis présenté au boulot tout bronzé, avec une journée de retard...). Tu sais, dans le premier message que je t'ai laissé sur le forum, je ne te disais pas par hasard que les infrastructures étaient largement sous dimentionnées...
Si tu part d'une île, prévoie une journée de plus, au cas où...
Lorsque j'ai quitté l'île de Hvar, à ma grande surprise il y avait une file d'attente de plusieurs km. Résultat: je suis resté une journée de plus sur l'île, car lorsque mon tour est arrivé, j'ai vu partir le dernier bateau (c'est mon chef qui était content, lorsque je me suis présenté au boulot tout bronzé, avec une journée de retard...). Tu sais, dans le premier message que je t'ai laissé sur le forum, je ne te disais pas par hasard que les infrastructures étaient largement sous dimentionnées...
« Le paradis n'est pas sur la terre, mais il y en a des morceaux » Jules Renard
😉 Merci pour ta réponse. En fait j'ai pris quatre semaines de congés mais je compte m'arrêter un peu en Italie avant de partir en Croatie. Je vais m'arrêter à Sennigalia, une ville balnéaire près de Ancôna où il n'y a que de grandes plages sans atrait mais il y a beaucoup d'ambiance, de monde ...
Puis au retour je m'arreterai à Venise ( je retournerai dans un petit camping qui figure dans le guide du routard. Il y a beaucoup de Français, raté pour le dépaysement, mais le camping est pas cher, propre et tout près de l'arrêt de bus pour aller à Venise.
Encore merci. Jojopique
Ouais je connait ce camping, j'en est fait les fraie la première fois que je suis aller a venise !!!!
Je me suis promit de plus y retournée (a l'entrée du camping, y'as les autocolant des millier de guides qui le conseille !!!!)
Je me suis laisser dire qu'il y'avait des campings a la ferme, super simpas, mais un peut plus loingt ...., a voir ...
Philo
Je me suis promit de plus y retournée (a l'entrée du camping, y'as les autocolant des millier de guides qui le conseille !!!!)
Je me suis laisser dire qu'il y'avait des campings a la ferme, super simpas, mais un peut plus loingt ...., a voir ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Les Francais !!!!, et pas les plus representatifs de la race des voyageur, mais pltot de celle des touriste (aïe je sent déja la modération et les coups de certains membre !!!)
Pour le reste il est propre et tous, le resto, j'ai pas tenté je me fait a mangé tous seul avec les aliments locaux !!! (j'était cuisinier au tous debut de ma formation)
Philo
Pour le reste il est propre et tous, le resto, j'ai pas tenté je me fait a mangé tous seul avec les aliments locaux !!! (j'était cuisinier au tous debut de ma formation)
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Je ne parlais pas du resto du camping mais d'un autre en dehors du camping. Celui du camping, je n'y suis pas allé.
Moi aussi je préfère faire ma bouffe moi même rien ne vaut de bonnes pâtes à la sauce tomate ! (j'ai des origines italiennes). En fait on a mangé dans ce resto le soir en rentrant de Venise, la flem de faire à bouffer le soir à 9h30 / 10h00....
Je suis d'accord avec toi, quand on voit certains compatriotes, on a parfois honte d'être français...🤪
Hey ouais je me souviendrait longtemps de la tête de nos voisin quand on a allumé le feux, qu'on a sortie la pierre a grillade (une ardoise taillé maison), er qu'ona fait cuire les escalope entourée de fromage du coin !!!
ils nous ont prit pour des ouffs ....
Philo
ils nous ont prit pour des ouffs ....
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Salut Jojopique,
Ce matin, je me suis souvenue que c'était ce soir que je débutais vraiment mon voyage. Aïe Aïe ^¨¨, je suis 1 peu réveuse...
Je monte dans les alpes du sud pour quelques jours pour ensuite descendre vers l'Italie, par la côte ou les Alpes? puis direction la Slovénie. Tu sembles faire à peu près le mm trajet au mm dates, que dirais tu de se retrouver un jour en chemin?
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Tiphaout
Ce matin, je me suis souvenue que c'était ce soir que je débutais vraiment mon voyage. Aïe Aïe ^¨¨, je suis 1 peu réveuse...
Je monte dans les alpes du sud pour quelques jours pour ensuite descendre vers l'Italie, par la côte ou les Alpes? puis direction la Slovénie. Tu sembles faire à peu près le mm trajet au mm dates, que dirais tu de se retrouver un jour en chemin?
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Tiphaout
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There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
Hi there.
I’d like to know what the daily budget is for Greece in December. I’ll be landing in Athens and staying there for a week, then heading to some other islands—I don’t have a set itinerary yet. Also, I’ve heard that in December, or early January, the temperature is around 11–16°C. Is that accurate?
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
hi
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week trip in late September with our camper van to explore Bulgaria and Romania.
What routes would you recommend, starting from the South?
Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!