On the Silk Road: Chronicles of a Sixty-Something Traveling Completely Independently
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PA Parigino Veteran ·
Two hours by bus from Ürümchi, summer 2000, a stroll to the stunning Heavenly Lake (Tianchi). Any fresh news (or not)?

I went there in 2013, and it had already turned into a massive amusement park with a paid entrance and hundreds of buses shuttling thousands of people around all day.





It was the second day of my life in China (I’d arrived the day before by train). I was still traveling without GPS or a translation app. I’d found the bus departure point in Ürümqi in the LP, headed there early in the morning, and hopped on. I was expecting a peaceful ride to the lake, but nope: 1/ there was an entertainer with a mic shouting all sorts of things, and 2/ the bus made shopping stops along the way, which wasted time every single time. By the time we finally arrived at the site, it was lunchtime! Since I’d had enough of hanging around, I set off alone to the lake. The entertainer told me, "Okay, meet back at the bus at this time." No problem, I’ll be there!

At the scheduled departure time, when I saw the ocean of buses in front of me, I wasn’t feeling so confident anymore... Still, I managed to find mine (everyone was already there—I wonder what they even saw of the site). We seemed to be on our way back, already entering Ürümqi, when suddenly... one last shopping stop in a center full of jewelers! That was the last straw for me. I bailed, thinking I’d just head back quietly... Except I had no idea where I was, and I didn’t have GPS. After a few attempts to ask for directions, I ran into a group of really nice young people who flagged down a taxi for me.

Anyway, for an introduction to China, I got a taste of post-economic-boom Chinese tourism: spend money whenever you can, especially if you absolutely don’t need what you’re buying 😎

As for the site itself, there were no more yurts around the lake. The Kazakhs were put on display like animals, and the Chinese tourists were snapping photos nonstop. Coming from Kazakhstan, it felt pretty strange...





That said, the lake with the snow-capped peaks in the background was still just as breathtaking.
SC Schischi Veteran ·
Thanks for this info. Chinese-style tourism... terrifying, sad, and so well described in words and images. Little respect for people or the environment.

In 2017, in Yunnan, at the best viewpoint to see stunning terraced rice fields, they had built a huge wall to block the view and charge admission. Trash tossed over the other side of the wall didn’t bother anyone.

Thanks also to SBecker for the photo of the beautiful mosque that, fortunately, still stands.
Schischi
FA FabGreg Globetrotter ·
Thanks also to SBecker for their photo of the beautiful mosque that fortunately still stands.

That was still the case in September 2018, and it will remain so because the "fragrant concubine" is reportedly buried there, a testament to historical Chinese influence. During my visit, I got the impression the gardens had just been restored.

However, not all historic mosques are safe. For instance, the Kargilik / Yecheng Mosque was demolished between 2017 and 2018. No wonder I was intercepted as soon as I got off the train and escorted to the west bus station for "deportation" to Yarkand.

Unaware that this historic mosque had been razed, I naively insisted on making a detour to see its façade (which was the main artistic interest). Not exactly helpful for my situation. 🤪

Fabrice
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SC Schischi Veteran ·
Thanks for these details—they really help explain why this one is preserved and restored.
Schischi
JI Jipeg Regular ·
A little flashback... During our last visits, which date back to 1985 and 1988, there was a cemetery all around the Abakh Khoja Mausoleum. It seems to have disappeared... In 1988, there was an earthquake that woke us up in the middle of the night, and many mosaics had come loose...

FA FabGreg Globetrotter ·
The cemetery was still there in September 2018; I caught a glimpse of it between the planks of a fence, east of the mausoleum. But there was no way to access it.

Some historic Muslim cemeteries don’t escape "redevelopments." I saw this in a village a little east of Turpan, and it led to me being "intercepted" by plainclothes police and having my photos of the "redevelopment" deleted. Yet it was a region far less troubled than Kashgaria.

Fabrice
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SO Sofinerazel ·
Great topic, thanks for sharing your experience!
BI Bidul38 Regular ·
Thanks for this interesting story and the photos. It really makes you want to go. However, I didn’t look at all of them closely—even though some seemed really beautiful—because seeing you in most of the photos, even though you seem nice, gets a bit repetitive.
SA Sarana Regular ·
You're right, I'll do a little sorting so you can come back.
sarana
SC Schischi Veteran ·
Thanks for all the work on this travel journal, which, beyond the joy of reliving great moments, allowed for mostly friendly and enriching exchanges.
Schischi
NA Naruwan ·
Thanks for this really interesting account. A few detailed remarks about Kashgar:

all the signage is in Chinese and Arabic

More precisely, in Chinese and Uyghur, a Turkic language that uses the Arabic alphabet (just like Turkish used to)

the city center has been well preserved

No, the original city center was completely destroyed between 2009 and 2011, and a pastiche was rebuilt afterward on a smaller area. Back then, I walked through hectares of ruins—every dwelling had been methodically gutted by excavators to make them uninhabitable and clear out those neighborhoods of their population.

Totally agree with Marathon. How can you call it a city center when there’s only one street... In 2013, I wrote: Nearby, an undestroyed part of old Kashgar undergoing "tourist facelifting"—acid-bright colors. Many artisans, including musical instrument makers, hatters, tinsmiths, and dozens of teahouses. Zero tourists, whether European or Chinese. https://www.naruwan.fr/chine/xinjiang-2013/
SA Sarana Regular ·
The "theater-set downtown" has now expanded to several streets.
sarana
PA Parigino Veteran ·
Personally, I wasn’t too "shocked" by the demolition and reconstruction in Kashgar. The Chinese have done much worse elsewhere. What really struck me was the lack of life—there’s hardly anyone around...
GO Gorkhette ·
Thanks to everyone for all the info and photos! I traveled the Silk Road by train from Beijing to Urumqi in July 2017. I wanted to go all the way to Kashgar, but the train duration and, especially, the reports about the destruction of the old town discouraged me. And given what I experienced in Xinjiang, I don’t regret not going further. In Xining already, during the visit to the Great Mosque, I noticed that all the shops had riot shields (like the French CRS) and batons, probably in case of protests, even though we weren’t even in Xinjiang yet. In Turpan, the night market was closed, one of the Uyghur restaurants where we’d eaten was depressing and as empty as could be, and our day guide took us through a street where, for nearly 1 km, identical brick houses were under construction. At least the government was trying to give them a Uyghur-inspired style, but the total lack of individuality was shocking. Finally, in Urumqi, the police presence, cameras everywhere, and especially the patriotic propaganda broadcast through loudspeakers in some streets really finished me off.

Too bad, because I loved Dunhuang and the rest of my trip in China. I hope one day to return to China and this time head back to France by train via Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Iran, and Turkey—but that’s not happening anytime soon!
FA FabGreg Globetrotter ·
Personally, I wasn't too "shocked" by the demolition-reconstruction of Kashgar.

Same here.

What shocked me was the lack of life: there's practically no one around...

On the main "tourist" street of Kashgar's new old town, I was struck by the density of Chinese flags—displayed on the facade of every house. I don’t recall seeing anything like it during my other stops in Xinjiang, even in the Uyghur part of Kuqa.

On top of that, the mass of Han tourists crowding the night market for a "big feast." Hardly a square meter was free. The only Uyghurs were the servers at the various stalls. I’ll add that there were patrols of three uniformed police officers every 100 meters or less.

I preferred to eat a traditional *laghman* in a small eatery north of the grand mosque. I was the only tourist there among Uyghur aksakals ("white beards," meaning the elders in Central Asia).

Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
PA Parigino Veteran ·
On the main "tourist" street of Kashgar’s new old town, I was struck by the density of Chinese flags—every single house had one on its facade.

Classic Chinese move. It’s like this in Tibet, even in the tiniest villages, and in Inner Mongolia. Anywhere there’s—or could be—even a hint of doubt (among a few non-Chinese minds) about China’s legitimacy to be there, they slap their flag *everywhere* in this giant fuck off display.
FA FabGreg Globetrotter ·
I was well aware of it, but in Kashgar, it went far beyond what I’d seen in the rest of Xinjiang, including Tashkorgan, Kuqa, Hotan, and Turfan (not a single Chinese flag in the Uyghur quarter leading to the Enim Minaret).

The same was true in Longwu / Tongren (Qinghai), where a distinctly Tibetan neighborhood remains right next to the great gonpa.

In Kashgar, the main tourist street was literally decked out for September 18th. I’d never seen anything like it in any other country.

Trying too hard to make a statement had the opposite effect. It struck me as heavy-handed, even if it was aimed at Han tourists.

Fabrice
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SB Sbecker Veteran ·
On the main "tourist" street of Kashgar’s new old town, I was struck by the density of Chinese flags—displayed on the facade of every single house.

Illustrated by the photo :) :

The night market left me with an excellent memory. So many dishes I’d never tried before, most of them really tasty.
FA FabGreg Globetrotter ·
Hi Samuel,

Your photo matches what I saw. However, the main street was much livelier. Maybe a question of time or season. When was your photo taken?

Fabrice
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SB Sbecker Veteran ·
Your photo matches what I saw. However, the main street was much livelier. Maybe a question of time or season. When was your photo taken?

It was late September, but I don’t remember the time—it was probably in the morning.
FA FabGreg Globetrotter ·
It was late September, though I don’t remember the exact time—probably morning.

Late September, same as me. Though I explored the "old town" on foot in the afternoon and evening.

When I applied for my visa in August 2018, I’d read in a Chinese magazine that Xinjiang was promoted as an exotic destination (for Han tourists). The appeal for Han travelers? A culturally immersive experience, very safe, with Mandarin speakers (among younger generations, not so much with the older bazaar merchants), and all without leaving China.

That might explain the heavy crowds I saw there in September 2018. At the very start of the month, trains leaving Kashgar were packed, mostly with students heading home for the new university term. By late September, organized groups of retirees made up the majority.

"Long noses" (foreigners) were *very* rare.

Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
RE Reidi ·
Great chronicle! A bit harsh with "the portrait of a standard package-tour traveler," but pretty realistic! There’s a difference between a traveler and a tourist. Best regards, Robert
PA Paris13eme ·
The authentic tale of a clichéd and narcissistic Western perspective. What a moralizing and biased account!
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
The authentic tale of the clichéd and narcissistic Western gaze. What a moralizing and biased account!

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