Ryanair, le dossier noir
by Frontliner
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
😉 peut etre que plus tard je serai pro major quand vous aurez reussi avec votre propagande anti low cost à me faire changer d'avis 😛
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Tout n'est pas si noir dans le dossier Ryanair : en juillet, ils ont transporté 6, 73 millions de passagers, 19 % de plus qu'en juillet de l'an passé, avec un taux de remplissage de 89 %.
http://www.ryanair.com/site/IE/news.php?yr=09&month=aug&story=pax-en-050809
Je crois qu'on peut sans acheter un billet sur Ryanair sans crainte de perdre son argent (comme les infortunés clients de MyAir viennent de le faire tout récemment).
Et il y a en ce moment des promotions fort intéressantes sur RYR pour octobre-novembre (ceci étant dit pour rendre service aux forumistes, pas comme publicité).
et à Stansted alors!!
700 passagers manquent leur avion parce que Ryanair n'ouvre pas assez de desk!
Ce coup de pub là même Ol'eary n'y aurait pas pensé😉
je voudrais pas prendre la défense de MOL, c'est pas mon genre , mais sur ce coup là c'est plutot de la faute à Swissport !
Quelques jours avant , pour le meme volumes de vol il y a avait beaucoup plus de guichets d'ouvert mais seulement 11 le jour du couac pour traiter tout les vols .
C'est Swissport qui a mal geré le truc
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Si le prestataire est mauvais, il faut le changer. ça c'est de la responsabilité de la compagnie.
sans parler des pressions que met Ryanair pour conclure des contrats intenables pour ses prestataires en général.
Dans toutes les compagnies aériennes, chez Ryanair comme ailleurs, il y a de temps en temps des incidents regrettables. Celui de Stansted l'autre jour en est un, RYR ne le conteste absolument pas.
D'autre part, les statistiques de l'AEA (Association of European Airlines) montrent que Ryanair est excellent dans le domaine de la perte de bagages : 0, 67 bagages perdu pour 1000 passagers - Lufthansa en est à 10, 9 et Air France à 18, 9 bagages perdus par 1000 passagers !
http://www.ryanair.com/site/IE/news.php?yr=09&month=jun&story=gen-en-300609
Tout n'est décidément pas si noir que ça chez Ryanair...
Ryanair a un avantage pour baisser ces stats là : pas de vol en correspondance (là où surviennent la plupart des "pertes").
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Bonsoir,
Il y'a un autre aéroport qui va attirer les low cost et d'autres ( qui, pour certain, lorgnent déjà dessus), c'est l'aéroport de Bretigny-sur-Orge. En 2011, l'armée aura normalement desertée les lieux et la situation géographique est plutôt bonne. 1km de la station du RER C, en 30 min de St Michel Nôtre Dame (avec un seul arrêt hors Paris: Juvisy Sur Orge). Pareil, la N104 passe juste à côté, même pas 1km.
De même que la taille, de la piste, 3 000 mètres, ce qui veut dire que quasiment tous les appareils peuvent s'y poser sans limitation de poid.
Et il y'a la place pour construire un terminal puisque la surface est assez grande (un terminal low-cost je parle)
Le problème reste la proximité de certaine ville, comme Bondoufle, Bretigny, Fleury Merogis et Marolle en Hurepoix principalement.
Assez difficilement viable pour cet aéroport d'accueillir des dessertes régulières à cause d'Orly.
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Pour le moment, par les militaires, ensuite probablement par ADP. Mais regarde l'orientation des pistes et tu comprendras pourquoi ça ne peut pas marcher...
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Je ne suis pas convaincu...
Regardes aux USA, les avions font beaucoup de manoeuvres, des virages tres serrés juste apres le décollage à peine quitté le seuil de piste, parfois meme juste avant le toucher ! Pour Bretigny, ca leur permettrai de se mettre dans un axe parallele à Orly et de ne pas géner le trafic !
Apres il y a la question de l'orientation par rapport au vent, les avions risquent d'atterrir par vent de travers. Mais les périodes de fort vent sont plutot occasionnelles sur l'Ile de France
Regardes aux USA, les avions font beaucoup de manoeuvres, des virages tres serrés juste apres le décollage à peine quitté le seuil de piste, parfois meme juste avant le toucher ! Pour Bretigny, ca leur permettrai de se mettre dans un axe parallele à Orly et de ne pas géner le trafic !
Apres il y a la question de l'orientation par rapport au vent, les avions risquent d'atterrir par vent de travers. Mais les périodes de fort vent sont plutot occasionnelles sur l'Ile de France
Le vent de travers c'est pas un problème. Le problème, c'est que le vent souffle d'ouest 95% du temps, et que les approches de ces deux aéroports se croisent un peu quand même... Et puis quid des habitants là-dessous, qui en ont déjà un peu marre d'orly...
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Le vent de travers c'est pas un problème. Le problème, c'est que le vent souffle d'ouest 95% du temps, et que les approches de ces deux aéroports se croisent un peu quand même... Et puis quid des habitants là-dessous, qui en ont déjà un peu marre d'orly...
Pour Orly, la piste 02/20 est très peu utilisé, seulement en cas de travaux et de conditions venteuses particulière. Je le sais assez bien, parce que quand, c'est le cas, j'ai les avions qui passent pile juste au dessus de chez moi (et quand, je dis pile, y'a pas mieux). Par ex, si il me venait à l'idée de prendre des photos des avions qui passent au dessus, on ne voit que le ventre.. Bref, c'était pour la parenthèse. Cette configuration est très peu utilisée, principalement à cause de la densité de population, qui commence à partir de Ste Geneviève des Bois et jusqu'au nord d'Orly, Vitry, Alfortville et même encore plus loin sur les axes de la 02/20. Pour rappel, la densité sous les axes de pistes de CDG dans un rayon de 15km atteint 400 habitants/km2. Pour Orly, c'est 2300 habitants/km2. Et dans le cas des villes situés au nord d'Orly, elle est plus élevée. Rien que pour Ste Geneviève des bois, c'est 3400 habitants au Km2. Les habitants de cet endroit de l'Essonne sont pour le moment, relativement épargné par les nuisances sonores.. Cet axe de piste n'est pas donc pas un problème, et le sera seulement très rarement. La question du vent est plus problématique. Ce que je sais, en tout cas, c'est que beaucoup d'entreprises se sont installés à proximité dans l'espoir de voir l'aéroport s'ouvrir au public, fret et passager compris..
Pour Orly, la piste 02/20 est très peu utilisé, seulement en cas de travaux et de conditions venteuses particulière. Je le sais assez bien, parce que quand, c'est le cas, j'ai les avions qui passent pile juste au dessus de chez moi (et quand, je dis pile, y'a pas mieux). Par ex, si il me venait à l'idée de prendre des photos des avions qui passent au dessus, on ne voit que le ventre.. Bref, c'était pour la parenthèse. Cette configuration est très peu utilisée, principalement à cause de la densité de population, qui commence à partir de Ste Geneviève des Bois et jusqu'au nord d'Orly, Vitry, Alfortville et même encore plus loin sur les axes de la 02/20. Pour rappel, la densité sous les axes de pistes de CDG dans un rayon de 15km atteint 400 habitants/km2. Pour Orly, c'est 2300 habitants/km2. Et dans le cas des villes situés au nord d'Orly, elle est plus élevée. Rien que pour Ste Geneviève des bois, c'est 3400 habitants au Km2. Les habitants de cet endroit de l'Essonne sont pour le moment, relativement épargné par les nuisances sonores.. Cet axe de piste n'est pas donc pas un problème, et le sera seulement très rarement. La question du vent est plus problématique. Ce que je sais, en tout cas, c'est que beaucoup d'entreprises se sont installés à proximité dans l'espoir de voir l'aéroport s'ouvrir au public, fret et passager compris..
Par "le vent souffle d'ouest 95% du temps", je sous entendais que "donc les approches de ces deux aéroports se croiseront 95% du temps", ce qui donnerait une configuration assez difficilement utilisable avec des vols commerciaux relativement plus fréquents que l'utilisation qui en est faite aujourd'hui par les militaires.

L'approche d'orly n'étant pas modifiable car trop proche de la piste, les avions qui veulent se poser à brétigny vont donc devoir faire un gros détour par l'est, avant de s'aligner relativement proches de l'aéroport. Pas idéal...
Et les habitants de toutes les villes survolées (l'approche d'orly se faisant globalement au-dessus de zones relativement peu habitées), pas sûr qu'ils apprécient le changement.

L'approche d'orly n'étant pas modifiable car trop proche de la piste, les avions qui veulent se poser à brétigny vont donc devoir faire un gros détour par l'est, avant de s'aligner relativement proches de l'aéroport. Pas idéal...
Et les habitants de toutes les villes survolées (l'approche d'orly se faisant globalement au-dessus de zones relativement peu habitées), pas sûr qu'ils apprécient le changement.
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D'autre part, les statistiques de l'AEA (Association of European Airlines) montrent que Ryanair est excellent dans le domaine de la perte de bagages : 0, 67 bagages perdu pour 1000 passagers - Lufthansa en est à 10, 9 et Air France à 18, 9 bagages perdus par 1000 passagers !
http://www.ryanair.com/...;story=gen-en-300609
Tout n'est décidément pas si noir que ça chez Ryanair...
Aille c'est incomparable. Les aéroports ne sont pas les mêmes et surtout une grande partie des bagages se perdent dans les correspondances.
M'enfin continuez c'est toujours aussi agréable à lire, un paquet de pop corn à la main 😛
Aille c'est incomparable. Les aéroports ne sont pas les mêmes et surtout une grande partie des bagages se perdent dans les correspondances.
M'enfin continuez c'est toujours aussi agréable à lire, un paquet de pop corn à la main 😛
La vie en allers simples...
Ce que je sais, en tout cas, c'est que beaucoup d'entreprises se sont installés à proximité dans l'espoir de voir l'aéroport s'ouvrir au public, fret et passager compris..
Bretigny 3eme aéroport parisien ... je crois qu'il ya des elus locaux qui fument un peu trop la moquette ! Autant de chance que de voir ryanair faire un Paris CDG/Nice en bizz ou first avec jacuzzi
Cherchez pas le futur aeroport a Paris pour ryanair ... si elle souhaite survivre, c'est CDG
Bretigny 3eme aéroport parisien ... je crois qu'il ya des elus locaux qui fument un peu trop la moquette ! Autant de chance que de voir ryanair faire un Paris CDG/Nice en bizz ou first avec jacuzzi
Cherchez pas le futur aeroport a Paris pour ryanair ... si elle souhaite survivre, c'est CDG
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Cherchez pas le futur aeroport a Paris pour ryanair ... si elle souhaite survivre, c'est CDG
http://www.leparisien.fr/oise-60/l-aeroport-gagne-mille-passagers-par-jour-04-08-2009-598104.php
http://www.leparisien.fr/oise-60/l-aeroport-gagne-mille-passagers-par-jour-04-08-2009-598104.php
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Cherchez pas le futur aeroport a Paris pour ryanair ... si elle souhaite survivre, c'est CDG
Je ne crois pas que Ryanair a besoin de CDG - ou même de Paris - pour survivre (sic) : Paris n'est pas une base de Ryanair, qui n'y exploite que moins de vingt liaisons. Peu de chose à côté de Madrid, Rome, Bruxelles, Londres, Dublin, etc.
Je ne crois pas que Ryanair a besoin de CDG - ou même de Paris - pour survivre (sic) : Paris n'est pas une base de Ryanair, qui n'y exploite que moins de vingt liaisons. Peu de chose à côté de Madrid, Rome, Bruxelles, Londres, Dublin, etc.
...Je ne crois pas que Ryanair a besoin de CDG - ou même de Paris - pour survivre (sic) : Paris n'est pas une base de Ryanair, qui n'y exploite que moins de vingt liaisons. Peu de chose à côté de Madrid, Rome, Bruxelles, Londres, Dublin, etc.
Intéressant ce post ! Il semble bien confirmer que tu ne connais pas trop le système ryanair, aspect économique bien sur, car sur les billets a 1-5-10 € avec Mathieu vous êtes incollables !
En fait c'est tout l'inverse, ryanair est une grosse machine financière qui ne tourne très bien que si elle est alimentée en permanence.C'est un concept surtout basé sur le court terme, d'expansion permanente, bien rodé mais dangereux au moindre grain de sable.
Et donc les pax faudra les trouver ! ryanair devra aller partout gros aéroports avec de vilaines taxes compris … enfin ou on voudra l'accueillir et ça aussi ça coince parfois a force de dire des conneries dans les affaires ça retombe souvent en pluie fine !
Sinon … ploufff car l'avenir de cette Cie sera assez différent de son passé ! ou il n'y aura pas !
Pas de honte a faire ça ... Southwest présentée comme modèle de ryanair a bien ouvert des vols de/vers New York … pour de vrai … aéroport La Guardia ou elle va cotoyer les majors du domestique US, tout en gardant son aéroport historique de Long Island !
Intéressant ce post ! Il semble bien confirmer que tu ne connais pas trop le système ryanair, aspect économique bien sur, car sur les billets a 1-5-10 € avec Mathieu vous êtes incollables !
En fait c'est tout l'inverse, ryanair est une grosse machine financière qui ne tourne très bien que si elle est alimentée en permanence.C'est un concept surtout basé sur le court terme, d'expansion permanente, bien rodé mais dangereux au moindre grain de sable.
Et donc les pax faudra les trouver ! ryanair devra aller partout gros aéroports avec de vilaines taxes compris … enfin ou on voudra l'accueillir et ça aussi ça coince parfois a force de dire des conneries dans les affaires ça retombe souvent en pluie fine !
Sinon … ploufff car l'avenir de cette Cie sera assez différent de son passé ! ou il n'y aura pas !
Pas de honte a faire ça ... Southwest présentée comme modèle de ryanair a bien ouvert des vols de/vers New York … pour de vrai … aéroport La Guardia ou elle va cotoyer les majors du domestique US, tout en gardant son aéroport historique de Long Island !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Et dessert de même SFO en parallèle d'Oakland depuis quelques mois.
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Le concept de Southwest est différent de celui de Ryanair. C'est le patron de Southwest qui le reconnait de plus.
Southwest est d'offrir "plus pour votre argent", c'est à dire de conserver des tarifs bas, mais pas extrêmement bas, avec un maximum de services inclus ! Réservation par téléphone, boisson et snack à bord, bagages enregistrés, enregistrement à l'aéroport, choix du siege, tout est inclus dans le tarif !
Le concept de Ryanair est au contraire d'offrir le tarif le plus bas possible, d'exterioriser tous les "services annexes" du prix du billet pour les faire payer en supplément. Le but final de Ryanair est même de faire voyager gratuitement les passagers et de se faire payer sur tous les services annexes.
Tout le monde reconnait que Southwest est le modele des low cost. Mais si les major américaines font payer beaucoup de frais annexes (bagages, snacks à bord), un peu comme les low cost européenes, Southwest, de même que Jetblue, inclus tous ces frais, comme les major européennes ! C'est interessant de voir ce systeme inversé entre les deux continents...
Southwest est d'offrir "plus pour votre argent", c'est à dire de conserver des tarifs bas, mais pas extrêmement bas, avec un maximum de services inclus ! Réservation par téléphone, boisson et snack à bord, bagages enregistrés, enregistrement à l'aéroport, choix du siege, tout est inclus dans le tarif !
Le concept de Ryanair est au contraire d'offrir le tarif le plus bas possible, d'exterioriser tous les "services annexes" du prix du billet pour les faire payer en supplément. Le but final de Ryanair est même de faire voyager gratuitement les passagers et de se faire payer sur tous les services annexes.
Tout le monde reconnait que Southwest est le modele des low cost. Mais si les major américaines font payer beaucoup de frais annexes (bagages, snacks à bord), un peu comme les low cost européenes, Southwest, de même que Jetblue, inclus tous ces frais, comme les major européennes ! C'est interessant de voir ce systeme inversé entre les deux continents...
Le concept de Southwest est différent de celui de Ryanair. ..
La comparaison portait sur les implantations aéroportuaires des 2 Cies ( surtout suite au gag Bretigny qui n'a aucun sens ) pas sur les services a bord ... et sur ce point les 2 Cies etaient proches, Southwest a evolué sur pas mal d'AP principaux dans les grandes metropoles mm en gardant ses AP "historiques" ce que ryanair ne semble pas faire, le comique n'a que "pas/peu de taxes" a la bouche !! ... maintenant moi je pense que ryanair sera a LGW et CDG plus d'autres ... ou ne sera plus dans le paysage aerien
La comparaison portait sur les implantations aéroportuaires des 2 Cies ( surtout suite au gag Bretigny qui n'a aucun sens ) pas sur les services a bord ... et sur ce point les 2 Cies etaient proches, Southwest a evolué sur pas mal d'AP principaux dans les grandes metropoles mm en gardant ses AP "historiques" ce que ryanair ne semble pas faire, le comique n'a que "pas/peu de taxes" a la bouche !! ... maintenant moi je pense que ryanair sera a LGW et CDG plus d'autres ... ou ne sera plus dans le paysage aerien
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Ryanair est à LGW, MAD , DUB , PRG, BUD...ce sont de gros aeroports !
Ryanair est très bien comme elle est , et MOL va pas changer son business plan pour te faire plaisir .
Preuve en est que BVA cartonne , c'est un des seul AP en France qui gagne en PAX .
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et MOL va pas changer son business plan pour te faire plaisir ...
non pas pour me faire plaisir .... seulement pour suirvivre et bien sur au passage exit le comique !
PS pour LGW et CDG je parlais de base car BVA pour ça c'est out .... mini mal equipé (mm avec le futur ILS III) et surtout ho hrrrrrrrrrrreur couvre feu a 22h
PS2 pourquoi les grands projets BVA sont visiblement au frigo d'apres toi ?
non pas pour me faire plaisir .... seulement pour suirvivre et bien sur au passage exit le comique !
PS pour LGW et CDG je parlais de base car BVA pour ça c'est out .... mini mal equipé (mm avec le futur ILS III) et surtout ho hrrrrrrrrrrreur couvre feu a 22h
PS2 pourquoi les grands projets BVA sont visiblement au frigo d'apres toi ?
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
ah non couvre feu à 00H00 !
et t'inquietes pas, il y a des gens chez Ryanair qui connaissent leur métier , aussi bien que toi et qui savent ce qu'ils font !
Il n'ont pas besoin de nous pour avancer et conforter leur place de leader en Europe !
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..et t'inquietes pas, il y a des gens chez Ryanair qui connaissent leur métier , aussi bien que toi et qui savent ce qu'ils font ! !
je sais ... j'ai mm des noms ... et il y a ausi un comique a virer
... et mon PS2 suis tristre de ne pas retrouver les beaux projets de BVA
ni 22 ni 24 >>> 23H mais le matin 7h15 c pas terrible ! IFR-VFRnuit heures d'ouverture : aérogare : 6h - 23h30 navigation aérienne : 7h15 - 23h00
je sais ... j'ai mm des noms ... et il y a ausi un comique a virer
... et mon PS2 suis tristre de ne pas retrouver les beaux projets de BVA
ni 22 ni 24 >>> 23H mais le matin 7h15 c pas terrible ! IFR-VFRnuit heures d'ouverture : aérogare : 6h - 23h30 navigation aérienne : 7h15 - 23h00
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
un comique comme tu dis qui a pris Ryanair en faillite pour en faire la compagnie numero 1 en Europe , avec 67 millions de passagers transportés !
J'aimerais etre aussi comique que lui !
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Et oui repondre aux questions précises est difficile !
allez bonne soirée
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Ryanair a envie de s'étendre, d'accord, mais peut parfaitement se passer d'aller à Paris. CDG n'est pas le centre du monde, ni même de l'Europe.
Ryanair ... peut parfaitement se passer d'aller à Paris. CDG
je ne faisais que répondre a l'évocation de l'utilisation pour Paris d'une base militaitre, Bretigny, sans réél fondement ! sinon pour moi ryanair peut parfaitement se passer d'aller ou que ce soit en France !
je ne faisais que répondre a l'évocation de l'utilisation pour Paris d'une base militaitre, Bretigny, sans réél fondement ! sinon pour moi ryanair peut parfaitement se passer d'aller ou que ce soit en France !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
et super beau coup de MOL en ouvrant une base à Leeds Bradford en Mars 2010 , qui va ejecter Jet2.com , la low cost de Leeds qui a les memes pratiques que FR (15 euros de bag soutes payant , check in aeroport payant ...) mais avec des billets d'avions beaucoup plus cher !
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Éjecter une compagnie qui dessert des aéroports différents des tiens à 75%, c'est dur quand même 😇
Un peu de réalisme...
Un peu de réalisme...
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beaucoup de destinations similaire et je vois pas comment cette petite compagnie déjà en difficulté financière va faire le poids face à l'ogre de Ryanair !
Ca va tenir un an ...
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Pour en revenir au futur aéroport "parisien" de Ryanair, un entrefilet dans "Airports of the world" de Jul/Aug 2009, page 4 :
- Paris/Vatry, aéroport de frêt jusqu'à présent, ambitionne de devenir 'le futur Stansted de Paris".
- Philippe Wittwer, chargé du développement économique de l'aéroport, déclare qu'il espère s'assurer du trafic Low Cost pour la fin de cette année.
- un accord de principe avec Ryanair est en vue, pour ouvrir trois lignes, mais l'accord définitif reste à finaliser.
- Paris/Vatry, aéroport de frêt jusqu'à présent, ambitionne de devenir 'le futur Stansted de Paris".
Eh bah c'est pas gagné, parce que Stansted est à 1h de route du centre de Londres, et Vatry à 2h du centre de Paris...
Eh bah c'est pas gagné, parce que Stansted est à 1h de route du centre de Londres, et Vatry à 2h du centre de Paris...
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Ils envisageaient plutot que de viser Paris centre d'etre l'aeroport "officiel" de Disneyland .
Vatry Disney , c'est pas bête , Disneyland resort Paris est un des lieux les plus prisés en Europe et la distance en bus entre Vatry et Disney est d'une heure .
http://www.tourmagazine.fr/Paris-Vatry-le-futur-aeroport-low-cost-de-Paris_a10042.html
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Ça se tient, et Disney doit être assez intéressé par subventionner l'idée... Reste à voir si le trafic serait suffisant.
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- Paris/Vatry, aéroport de frêt jusqu'à présent, ambitionne de devenir 'le futur Stansted de Paris".
Aéroport situé à 161 kms de Paris, dont 74kms sur autoroute, environ 2h de route par voiture, Et à 128 kms de Disneyland, dont 13 sur autoroute, soit 1h50 de route par voiture En car ca risque d'être plus long... et plus cher !!
Pour info, Beauvais est à 83kms de Porte Maillot, dont 63kms sur autoroute et les cars ont une durée de trajet de 90 minutes pour 13 EUR le trajet.
Ryanair avait déja tenté de lancer des vols pour Disneyland via Reims, l'expérience avait échouée ! Alors Vatry est un projet oui... quand à la réalisation...
Aéroport situé à 161 kms de Paris, dont 74kms sur autoroute, environ 2h de route par voiture, Et à 128 kms de Disneyland, dont 13 sur autoroute, soit 1h50 de route par voiture En car ca risque d'être plus long... et plus cher !!
Pour info, Beauvais est à 83kms de Porte Maillot, dont 63kms sur autoroute et les cars ont une durée de trajet de 90 minutes pour 13 EUR le trajet.
Ryanair avait déja tenté de lancer des vols pour Disneyland via Reims, l'expérience avait échouée ! Alors Vatry est un projet oui... quand à la réalisation...
Oui Disney s'est positionné sur le projet
http://www.tourmagazine.fr/Paris-Vatry-le-futur-aeroport-low-cost-de-Paris_a10042.html
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Et à 128 kms de Disneyland, dont 13 sur autoroute, soit 1h50 de route par voiture
Yup et pas 1h, je viens de voir ça...
Yup et pas 1h, je viens de voir ça...
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bien sur que si des sondes Thales equipent Boeing , et elle sont de qualitée identique a Goodrich bien sur l La DGAC ne fait pas son marché chez Aldi ou Le Mutant
Un ami Français dis cela souvent et cela te concerne et te va comme un gant Si c est pour dire de telles anneries il vaut mieux fermer sa gueule
Un ami Français dis cela souvent et cela te concerne et te va comme un gant Si c est pour dire de telles anneries il vaut mieux fermer sa gueule
Si c est pour dire de telles anneries il vaut mieux fermer sa gueule
En Deutshland, on dit peut-être "ferme ta geule" (ça ne m'étonnerait pas) - en Français, on demande éventuellement de se taire - et il vaut mieux se taire que d'écrire ce genre de grossiéreté. Merci d'avance.
En Deutshland, on dit peut-être "ferme ta geule" (ça ne m'étonnerait pas) - en Français, on demande éventuellement de se taire - et il vaut mieux se taire que d'écrire ce genre de grossiéreté. Merci d'avance.
Modif de la politique bagage en soute :
* Avant : limite à 15kg quel que soit le nombre de bagages jusqu'à 3 bagages. 10€ le premier, 20€ le second et le troisième
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Hi there,
I’m planning a winter trip across India. Departing in early December and returning to France in mid-April.
My main concern is finding an airline that offers this round-trip with the fewest hassles regarding cancellations or flight schedule changes. The unstable geopolitical situation in the Middle East isn’t making this search any easier—recent reviews online about airlines from Gulf states describe quite a few struggles over the past few months.
The direct Paris-Delhi round-trip flights offered by Air France or Air India are probably the safest options, but not the cheapest!
Given this uncertainty, I’m still holding off on finalizing my ticket purchase... Maybe some of you India lovers on VoyageForum have tips or experiences to share?
Thanks, and happy travels to all.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Madagascar in early October to cycle from Tana to Diego along the east coast.
I really want to visit the Masoala Peninsula and its primary forest. If anyone’s interested, I’m open to company.
Maybe see you soon!
Hi,
I’m thinking of heading to Malaysia soon.
I’ve seen some great prices and direct flights from Paris with Malaysia Airlines.
Is it a reliable airline?
Thanks for your feedback!
Hello,
Back in February, I booked a flight with Air France-KLM from Lyon to San Diego with a layover in Amsterdam (flights operated by KLM). The flight is scheduled for late August. My Lyon→Amsterdam flight was canceled by KLM in June, and a replacement flight the evening before was booked for me. So, I’ll end up spending the night at Amsterdam Airport to catch my flight to San Diego the next morning.
Since the cancellation happened more than 14 days before departure, I know I’m not entitled to financial compensation (EU Regulation 261/2004). But am I entitled to reimbursement for a hotel night in Amsterdam?
Back in February, I booked a flight with Air France-KLM from Lyon to San Diego with a layover in Amsterdam (flights operated by KLM). The flight is scheduled for late August. My Lyon→Amsterdam flight was canceled by KLM in June, and a replacement flight the evening before was booked for me. So, I’ll end up spending the night at Amsterdam Airport to catch my flight to San Diego the next morning.
Since the cancellation happened more than 14 days before departure, I know I’m not entitled to financial compensation (EU Regulation 261/2004). But am I entitled to reimbursement for a hotel night in Amsterdam?
Hi there,
We had planned a trip to Sicily in August, and due to the volcanic eruption of Mount Etna, my flight was canceled. The airline is refunding the outbound flight, but none of the non-refundable expenses: accommodation booked through Booking, rental car, and the return flight aren’t covered. My SUPER Gold card doesn’t work in this specific case! :( If anyone has been in this situation, could you let me know if you were able to get any recourse and, if so, how?
Thanks in advance
I’ve been traveling regularly for over twenty years,
but this is the first time an airline has treated me as poorly as Air France.
Two trips, two problems. The latest:
Trip from Seoul to Rennes. Last leg from Paris CDG to Rennes with Air France.
I arrive in Paris and go straight to Air France to get my boarding pass to Rennes. They assure me my baggage is continuing to Rennes.
Arriving in Rennes, no baggage—same as five other people.
The Air France office is closed, and the airport staff tell me there’s rarely anyone there.
With the help of the airport staff, I file a claim online, and my baggage is almost immediately located. As a result, I’m told I’ll have it the next day.
Four days later, the baggage is still in the same place at CDG—nothing’s moving.
The problem is Air France has no customer service. What they call customer service is a department that takes an hour to answer and just repeats what’s on the online form. No coordination, no way to get things moving. I guess Air France would rather pay the compensation after 21 days than actually do something.
I’ve had lost baggage on other trips, but this is the first time I’ve seen such indifference and lack of professionalism.
but this is the first time an airline has treated me as poorly as Air France.
Two trips, two problems. The latest:
Trip from Seoul to Rennes. Last leg from Paris CDG to Rennes with Air France.
I arrive in Paris and go straight to Air France to get my boarding pass to Rennes. They assure me my baggage is continuing to Rennes.
Arriving in Rennes, no baggage—same as five other people.
The Air France office is closed, and the airport staff tell me there’s rarely anyone there.
With the help of the airport staff, I file a claim online, and my baggage is almost immediately located. As a result, I’m told I’ll have it the next day.
Four days later, the baggage is still in the same place at CDG—nothing’s moving.
The problem is Air France has no customer service. What they call customer service is a department that takes an hour to answer and just repeats what’s on the online form. No coordination, no way to get things moving. I guess Air France would rather pay the compensation after 21 days than actually do something.
I’ve had lost baggage on other trips, but this is the first time I’ve seen such indifference and lack of professionalism.
Hi,
Air Cairo offers good prices on domestic flights and schedules that work for us, but is this airline reliable?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
I booked an Etihad ticket on their website for Dusseldorf-Abu Dhabi. In the first name field, I entered all my first names (something I never do and I regret it, but the site was confusing). Everything is spelled correctly, but the problem is that I just received my new passport and only my first two first names and the first letter of the third appear—there’s no trace of the last one.
I called Etihad, and of course, they tried to charge me $100 USD to remove that last first name. But I’m hesitant because usually, I only put my first first name and not the others, and I’ve never had an issue... So I’m wondering if having that extra first name, which isn’t on my passport, could get me denied at check-in. Thanks for your feedback!
I called Etihad, and of course, they tried to charge me $100 USD to remove that last first name. But I’m hesitant because usually, I only put my first first name and not the others, and I’ve never had an issue... So I’m wondering if having that extra first name, which isn’t on my passport, could get me denied at check-in. Thanks for your feedback!
Hi everyone,
Next January, I’m heading to India.
My outbound flight is with Emirates from Paris to Dubai, then another Emirates flight from Dubai to Calcutta.
Could anyone tell me how the connection works? I’ve heard there’s a dedicated Emirates zone, but how does it actually work in practice—I’ve got a 2-hour layover.
Thanks so much!
Take care.
Hi there,
I’d like to fly to Malta from Lyon. I’ve read a lot of negative reviews about KM MALTA, especially regarding baggage fees at the airport. Of course, I don’t want to book through third parties (like SkyScanner, Opodo…). AIR FRANCE offers tickets to MALTA in partnership, if I understood correctly. On AIR FRANCE, the tickets include everything (checked baggage, cabin bag, small personal item, seat), whereas with KM MALTA, everything is extra and the final price is almost double! In this case, is AIR FRANCE considered the same as sites like Opodo or others? Given the price difference, I’m hesitant… Have any of you booked with AIR FRANCE for this destination? How did it go? Thanks, HERVE
I’d like to fly to Malta from Lyon. I’ve read a lot of negative reviews about KM MALTA, especially regarding baggage fees at the airport. Of course, I don’t want to book through third parties (like SkyScanner, Opodo…). AIR FRANCE offers tickets to MALTA in partnership, if I understood correctly. On AIR FRANCE, the tickets include everything (checked baggage, cabin bag, small personal item, seat), whereas with KM MALTA, everything is extra and the final price is almost double! In this case, is AIR FRANCE considered the same as sites like Opodo or others? Given the price difference, I’m hesitant… Have any of you booked with AIR FRANCE for this destination? How did it go? Thanks, HERVE
Hi everyone, I’ve unfortunately only just noticed that I booked two flight tickets, but I made a mistake on the second first name. Basically, my computer auto-filled and typed my first name twice, so both tickets are in my first name. Only the last names—mine and my friend’s—are correct.
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric






