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Vlo75 4 months ago · Chrissand
Car rental rates in Finland with drop-off in Norway
Hi there,

We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.

This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.

I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?

Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
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Castorbreton 7 months ago · Pepino13
5 weeks to tour Scandinavia: what are the best routes and tips?
Hi there, We’re planning to tour Scandinavia by camper van—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway (in that order)—for 5 weeks from late May to late June 2026. I’ve done it before, but that was way back in 1980 😎 and by hitchhiking! We’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trip about the best routes, great tips, must-know advice, and what to do or avoid (ferries, campsites, etc.). Thanks in advance!
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Anso56 9 months ago · Rotabe
2 months cycling as a family: Denmark/Sweden/Finland and Estonia?
Hello fellow cycle-tourers! First post on this site for our first big family cycling adventure with our two teens (12 and 16 years old) over 2 months. We're preparing to leave in June/July from Erdeven by bike, then take the train from Auray to Paris, followed by a FlixBus from Paris to Copenhagen with our 4 bikes. After that, we're looking to refine our route: Should we go to Sweden via Helsingborg and then head up to Stockholm along the west or east coast? Maybe passing through the Gotland islands, then via the Åland Islands, why not Turku? Then off to Estonia to Tallinn, ride a bit along the coast, and return by bus if we can find one that takes 4 bikes. :))

Could you share any tips on routes in Sweden: west coast or east coast to prioritize in the south? We’ve heard it’s a shame not to go up to Norway, but we’re worried about the elevation and don’t see how to make a loop work in our 2 months / 1500 km. Any ideas? And the southern Finnish coast: should we go all the way to Helsinki or not? Maybe at the expense of Estonia?

In short, we know choosing means giving something up, but if we can do it with advice from fellow cyclists, that would be amazing! Thanks in advance for your tips! Anne-Sophie and the whole Breton family: David, Axel, and Maude
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Dj93 10 months ago · Sucy
Scandinavian Road Trip, July 2018
EDITOR’S NOTE: As with every travel journal I publish, I won’t force anyone to agree with my comments—they’re my own, I share my feelings, and that’s it. Your comments are, of course, welcome, but I’ll refrain from responding to any hint of controversy, as has happened in the past.



For the summer holidays of 2018, we decided to take a break from long-haul, transcontinental trips. They’re expensive and exhausting, and this year, we also had to consider our young student’s limited vacation days. So, it was a short 14-day circuit in Scandinavia. Very quickly, I had to abandon the unrealistic idea of driving door-to-door with our personal car (unlike last year—see my "Balkan Stroll" story). Too many kilometers and stops. Still, crossing Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia before taking a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki and Finland was tempting—what a shame.



As usual, I planned ahead and started booking in early February for a mid-July departure, typically the best time weather-wise for this destination. Browsing tour operator catalogs didn’t offer much insight—just the usual circuits. Most aim for the North Cape, but we didn’t have time for that. First, via Expedia, we booked our flight tickets: Paris to Stockholm, Helsinki to Paris for the return (880 euros for three), plus a domestic flight from Oulu to Helsinki in Finland (220 euros). The unanimous advice was that there’s not much to see between the two cities, so this saved us a night’s accommodation and a day of car rental. However, the "drop-off" fees (not returning the car to the country of origin) were unavoidable. Out of 1,100 euros for 12 days of rental, this fee was significant—I say this from memory because I never received a detailed document or even the contract itself after picking up the car, despite my complaints. That said, Holiday Autos offered the best rates at the time with Hertz. Plus, I think we were unknowingly upgraded to a Volvo XC 40 T5 automatic, packed with electronics and an incredibly efficient GPS (so I lugged around my updated TomTom for nothing). I wasn’t used to it, and I’ll come back to that. For 50 euros, I also booked one of the many mandatory ferry crossings in Norway—unless you want to drive kilometers around the countless fjords. Specifically, the Bognes-Lødingen route to reach the Lofoten Islands, a must-see in Norway (though not necessarily the best choice I made—I’ll come back to that). Then, gradually via Booking.com, I reserved hotel accommodations, which wasn’t easy at reasonable prices. For three people, it’s nearly impossible to find a room with three real beds—often a sofa bed or even two separate rooms!!!! Norway isn’t a budget-friendly destination for us, yet French tourists are everywhere—groups or families traveling independently. Okay, you’re probably wondering when I’ll get started—I’m getting there... First up, Stockholm, a two-hour flight from Paris. A first for us: we’d gotten used to online check-in within 30 hours of the flight and sometimes printing our boarding passes. But, as progress never stops, at Roissy, we now also print our baggage tags at a kiosk, then place them on the conveyor belt ourselves, scan the barcode with the handheld scanner, and watch the luggage disappear—hoping it doesn’t get misrouted. With all this reduced staff, I hope ticket prices will drop. What? Huh? I’m naive... Okay, fine! Plus, during the flight, don’t expect any snacks—everything’s paid for now, except for water and coffee. I didn’t think I was on a low-cost flight!!! Picking up the car at Arlanda Airport went smoothly, except the contract signed on a tablet (progress, right?) was never emailed to me as promised—too bad... The Volvo SUV packed with electronics: as usual, aside from adjusting the mirrors and seat, I didn’t bother learning all the features and accessories for better handling. So, from the start, I felt jerky movements in the steering, independent of my control. The white-line detection was activated and corrected my direction whenever I got too close... And that’s not all—there’s also driving assistance. Besides the speed limiter, the car accelerates or brakes on its own based on the distance from the vehicle ahead. You still have to keep your hands on the wheel, though—too bad, we could’ve played cards and let it drive itself. When you slow down, if you signal to overtake and turn the wheel, it accelerates to pass. Soon, we won’t even need a driver’s license... Not to mention the little light in the side mirror to signal vehicles in the "blind spot"—very useful. But given the excessively strict speed limits in these parts, it’s still handy. I’ll unfortunately come back to this later!!!!!! In the end, we covered 4,700 km in 8 days of actual travel—no small feat!!!!!! Stockholm: still loyal to the hop-on-hop-off sightseeing buses (or the reverse), I booked our tickets online with a discount. It remains (for us) one of the best ways to visit and get around big cities. The tourist attractions aren’t that numerous. Forty kilometers from the airport, we reached our hotel, Clarion Amaranten. At reception, we were told our reservation was for four days, not two. I insisted, and they told me to call Booking.com to fix it—they couldn’t do anything themselves. Luckily, a nice blonde understood the situation and asked where we were from to lighten the mood. For me, it worked... After a few minutes of back-and-forth, we realized a namesake had booked at the same time. I think the intern got mixed up—oh well. We finally dropped off our bags and headed out under the sun for the included boat tour. It’s beautiful and relaxing under 26°C. We glided past massive cruise ships, very common in these Nordic countries, especially for fjord tours.



We passed Djurgården, one of the city’s 14 islands, home to the Tivoli amusement park and several museums, including the ABBA Museum and the Vasa Museum. I’m not talking about the crispy sandwiches sold since 1919 but the infamous warship that sank in the harbor on its maiden voyage in 1628 after sailing just a few hundred meters. Its intact hull was salvaged in 1961, and since then, it’s one of Sweden’s most visited museums. The country is a quarter smaller than France and has 10 million inhabitants, mostly in the three big cities (Stockholm, Gothenburg, Malmö). The rest is empty, filled with lakes and forests. The currency is the krona, with 1 euro worth about 10 SEK. Dinner in the Old Town consisted of a so-called Viking burger (more like a kebab) and meatballs—the famous Swedish meatballs with potatoes, just like at IKEA... I have to say, here, it seems the Vikings have long been just blond heads—I get it... It still cost us 550 SEK. A beer alone costs at least 9 euros!!!!

DAY 2. Sunny skies. After a hearty buffet breakfast with salmon, herring in all forms, eggs, cold cuts, bread, and pastries (don’t worry, the classics are there), we started the day by visiting the City Hall tower, famous for hosting the Nobel Prizes (except the Peace Prize, awarded in Oslo). At 106 meters tall, with 365 steps and 9 clocks, it weighs twice as much as the Eiffel Tower. Access is at fixed times in small groups for safety. You can climb up to 73 meters for a 360° view of the city. Next, we visited the Royal Palace, still the official residence of the King of Sweden, and its Treasury (entry: 160 SEK). We skipped the 12:15 PM changing of the guard—three-quarters of an hour before, dozens of onlookers were already crowding the front rows in the sun.



So, we took our favorite bus to rest a bit and tour the city. We also took the subway to see several "decorated" stations—love it or hate it, but it’s original. In the late afternoon, we returned to the Old Town and its Gamla Stan to find some souvenirs, even if it feels more like Bollywood than Viking country, complete with music in the shops—a nice sign of integration... One of the first things that surprised us was the very light car traffic—no traffic jams in this capital. But there are tons of electric and regular bikes, skateboards, and scooters. Also, lots of roadwork and housing construction—apparently a big need. For dinner (our only meal of the day), we treated ourselves to something local at Borgmästaren (Stora Nygatan 35). DECIDEDLY, I’M TELLING YOU EVERYTHING...

DAYS 3 & 4. Contrary to what I was told upon arrival, the hotel parking (700 SEK for 2 nights) didn’t open at 7:00 AM but at 9:00 AM on Saturday. After having to call myself (the French-speaking African receptionist couldn’t do it for me, especially after I told him I thought Croatia would win against France in the World Cup final), the kind parking attendant (partnered with the hotel—there’s the catch) arrived early and let us leave at 8:30 AM to start our east-to-west route to Norway and Oslo, 530 km away, finally beginning our summer adventure. At the border, absolutely no checks, and on the road, aside from lakes and forests, not much to see. However, tolls are very common—don’t overlook this in your budget. In Sweden, everything’s covered by the rental company, but not in other countries. In Norway, there are many automatic toll sections—cameras film your license plate and send you the bill later. So, you must register online at www.epcplc.com/rental, with or without your credit card details, and wait for the final bill. As of now, I haven’t received it, but after noting almost all of them, it should easily reach 200 euros. Roads, tunnels, and bridges are often toll-based to fund maintenance or new constructions. We reached the Norwegian capital at 3:00 PM and checked into our room. Small hiccup: the hotel parking, not reservable, was full on Saturday. Parking meters only take coins for a max of 2 hours. Luckily, tomorrow’s Sunday—free parking from 8:00 PM until Monday morning. After circling the neighborhood, I finally found a spot for my little car—even if it’s not mine, I still care about it...



The Thon Slottsparken Hotel is slightly off-center, but a little walking won’t hurt. The nearby Hertz agency was closed—too bad, I would’ve liked to complain about still not receiving my rental contract by email... With the nice weather, we started with a walking tour of the main sights: the palace, Karl Johans gate (the main street), and some souvenir shopping to fill the display cases back home—if there’s space. We also visited the deserted Akershus Fortress, where two poor young soldiers stood guard in the scorching sun. Below it, the World Cup final fan zone was being set up. Dinner was at Rorbua for 90 euros—ouch. Hard to find, tucked away from the harbor pier. We skipped the paid ascent of the city’s only "tower" with a panoramic view—tickets had to be paid by credit card, and given the fees my bank charges, I’d had enough. Note that card payments are widely accepted here, even for small amounts. When I tried to get change in cash for a 50-euro equivalent bill, some café owners were embarrassed.

DAY 4. After discussion, we planned the day: first up, one of Oslo’s must-sees, the Vigeland Sculpture Park, featuring bronze, granite, and cast-iron works by Gustav Vigeland (1869–1943). Given the distance, we took the tram—some cars still had their old-school charm!!!! Despite the early hour, hordes of Asian tourists were already there, making photo-taking a nightmare—same everywhere they go. The park is a matter of taste... The 17-meter monolith with 121 intertwined bodies is remarkable, and rightly so. Lazy, we took the tram again to save time—same name, tight schedule. I stopped by the Hertz agency, where the overwhelmed employee promised to try to help. Given his enthusiasm, I doubted it. From the start, I’ve really felt the welcome here, at least for French visitors, isn’t great. Remember my previous reports—it’s becoming a habit. Tourist brochures aren’t available in French here either—strange... Anyway, we took a relaxing fjord cruise. Besides the quirky opera house, the beautiful summer homes on the islands were really tempting. Next, with another paid boat, we headed to the Bygdøy peninsula and its museums. We skipped the Viking Ship Museum in favor of the Norwegian Folk Museum. It features different buildings from across the country, by era and region. Unfortunately, few actors in period costumes—common in this type of tourist attraction. Its real highlight is the stave church, very beautiful. On this late Sunday afternoon, bars and restaurants competed to become World Cup 2018 fan zones—crowds everywhere. So, we decided to head back to rest and catch a glimpse of the African French team against Croatia. It’ll go down in history: a 4-2 victory, with a beautiful goal by Lloris... Go "Les Bleus"—I get it...

DAY 5. Oslo to Bergen: 450 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. The real journey begins. Departure at 7:00 AM after sleeping in and a mediocre breakfast. Arrival at 5:00 PM—yes, driving’s slow... More tolls, but under 26°C, the real beauty starts around Geilo. First real fjord—it’s stunning. Then those houses with vegetated roofs blending perfectly into the landscape, sometimes nearly invisible... (Not bad, right? And it’s all me!!!)



We also discovered tunnels with "indoor roundabouts" and underground roads crossing—never seen that before!! We followed the shores of Lake Tyrifjord and the Hallingdal valleys. After Geilo, views of the Hardangerjøkulen glacier (achoo!) and the Vøringfossen waterfall (Norway’s highest at 163 meters) and Steinsdalsfossen in the Hardangerfjord (the country’s second-longest). Bergen, Norway’s second city, is built between seven mountains. Aside from the colorful old docks along the wharf, there’s not much to see. At the market, stalls of fresh fish, jars of various fish eggs (all called "caviar" here), and cold cuts made from reindeer, moose, and whale.



For 10 euros per person, we queued for the steep funicular for a great view of the city. Dinner was at "Fish Me," very busy. The salmon looked appetizing, and my first whale steak for 27 euros was... interesting. Our hotel, Augustin, is near the center. They charged me 150 NOK to park in the nearby public lot...

DAY 6. Bøverdalen, our evening stop, was less than 300 km away, but along the way, we had our first two scenic routes and first ferry crossing. When I got back in the car, I noticed the seagulls—rightful tenants of the harbor—had turned it into a Picasso painting overnight... First stop in Voss to peek inside its Vangskyrkja church (for a fee). The mural icons all have a marked squint, making the angels on the ceiling smile—quite the original touch. In 1277, it shocked people.



Gudvangen at the end of the Nærøyfjord offers beautiful views and a waterfall. An 11 km tunnel took us to Aurland and the Sognefjord, the king of fjords at 180 km long. Then we took Route 243 to Lærdal instead of a second long tunnel. A 47 km very narrow road with no passing except in designated spots. Buses, RVs, and trailers were in the mix—between backing up and moving forward, how do you expect me to... pass? At some spots, I had to "burn some oil" (non-edible). The beautiful viewpoints along Jotunheimen Park and its high peaks were hard-earned.



By midday, the 26°C of previous days gave way to 11°C with downpours and gusts. To reach Kaupanger, its stave church, and Route 55 (108 km), we took the Fodnes-Mannheller ferry for 119 kr (about 13 euros) for a 20-minute crossing. For these short trips, rotations are frequent, and wait times are short. The Sognefjellet route took us along lakes and snow-capped peaks—too bad the weather wasn’t cooperating. In Bøverdalen, in the middle of nowhere, we reached the Elveseter Hotel, the only one in the area, and it was packed. Luckily, it’s big. Recent reviews had us a bit worried, but personally, all the well-maintained wooden buildings gave the place charm. Our two small, simple rooms had character, and the common areas’ decor was interesting—a pile of antiques... Unless you dine on-site (reservations required for one of two sittings), the only option is to drive 20 km to Lom to see its beautiful stave church—but we didn’t go in (7 euros per person, and that’s enough). Dinner was three pizzas for 70 euros—yes, it’s expensive here.



Note that in most establishments, bars, or restaurants, you have to order and pay at the counter yourself. A *stavkirke* or *stavkyrkje* (in Norwegian Bokmål and Nynorsk) is a medieval wooden church typical of Norway, though excavations suggest similar churches may have existed elsewhere in Northern Europe. About 1,300 medieval churches were recorded, with 28 preserved in Norway. In French, they’re called "églises en bois debout" (standing wood churches) because masts or posts support the roof and nave elevation, as well as the walls. The stave church is one of the most elaborate and technically advanced types of wooden construction in Northwestern Europe during the Middle Ages. This technique is represented by the Urnes Stave Church (a UNESCO World Heritage Site), Borgund (the best-preserved in its medieval form), and 25 others—from the largest, Heddal, to the smallest, Undredal, in the stunning Sognefjord, plus a few others in Northwestern Europe.

DAY 7. Heading to Trondheim—supposedly 320 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. Unpredictable weather until about 1:00 PM, but it’s better because it’s the day of the "triples": 3 scenic routes, 3 ferries, and 3 "underwater" tunnels. No rush—here, there’s no need to "hurry to arrive before night" because as you head north, the sun lingers and sets less and less, eventually not setting at all. First, in Grotli, we took the 27 km of Route 258, *Gamle Strynefjellsvegen* (achoo), also very narrow and unpaved in the first section. Luckily, campers and RVs aren’t early risers—otherwise, I’d have had to make not just oil but olives this time. We only passed four other users. However, despite the early hour, local road workers were already on the job, and we had to ask the excavators to move several times to let us pass. At Langvatnet, we joined Route 63, called the Eagle Road here—mediocre, except for Geiranger at the end of the narrowest fjord in the country. A cruise ship had just unloaded its passengers, who rushed into the few shops. After the Eidsdal-Linge ferry (10 minutes) and Gudbrandsjuvet with its waterfalls, we tackled the famous Trollstigen (Troll’s Path), winding and very touristy. Coming from the south, we descended it. Mandatory photo stop at the tourist center and its impressive walkway. The descent into the valley was tough—the bus driver ahead of us must’ve been disabled, blind, and quadriplegic, taking two tries at every hairpin turn, causing a traffic jam behind and for those "going up" waiting at passing spots!!!



On Route 64, we took the Åfarnes-Solnes ferry instead of the initially planned 660 because my young passenger insisted on part of the "Atlantic Road." From what we’d read on blogs, only the last 11 km are spectacular, with arched bridges connecting islets. So, in Molde, we headed to Eide, then Vevang—beautiful but nothing more. The rain spoiled the scenery. Quick photo stop in Kristiansund, then a long underwater tunnel and the Kanestraum-Halsa ferry (7 km, 20 minutes) to reach the E39 toward Trondheim.



We all agreed that all these wooden houses and churches reminded us of the U.S. in their architecture—especially since, like there, a flagpole with the national flag often stands in front of homes. Trondheim, Norway’s third city, doesn’t have much to see. A university town in the country’s center, aside from its Nidaros Cathedral (closed when we arrived late), its wooden bridge, and colorful old docks on pilings—nothing else. Even finding food was complicated. As for accommodation, Booking.com had forgotten to mention that the Nidaros Pilgrimsgard is a "pilgrim hostel" on the Camino de Santiago. Monastic atmosphere and spartan rooms for reflection—same for the frugal breakfast in silence... Anyway... Luckily, the night before, in a kitschy place run by hip youngsters, I’d stocked up on a hearty assortment of marinated herring with aquavit that burned the rest of my esophagus. (BAKLANDET SKYDSSTATION) I’m really doing all the work for you...

DAY 8. Heading to Mo i Rana—633 km actually covered instead of the planned 480 through Nord-Trøndelag!!! After Steinkjer and its fjord, we decided to take Route 763, parallel to the E6, for less traffic and to see pretty mountain villages. We also stopped in Bola to see a petroglyph (Stone Age rock carving) of a reindeer. After Medja, we skipped Kjerringfoss and Europe’s largest salmon ladder (paid access). Instead, via the Holm-Vennesund ferry, we took a bit of the scenic Route 17 before reaching Mosjøen and Mo i Rana (too many ferries if you do the whole route). Along the way, we saw reindeer and moose relaxing on the road several times. Mo i Rana is small. The Ole Tobias Hotel was packed, and parking was complicated. For dinner, we crossed the street to "No. 3," the only option. Two spicy bacalao and a whale steak cost us 90 euros... At this rate, I had to find an ATM to finish the Norwegian stay properly. The 2,000 euros exchanged before leaving (at 9.28) were already partially gone. Cigarettes cost 13 euros a pack here—twice as much as in Sweden—while unleaded gas is 1.85 euros per liter.

DAY 9. Heading to the main event of the trip: the Lofoten Islands. First programming mistake: not studying the subject well, I preferred a shorter ferry crossing from further north on the mainland. But that also meant arriving further north on the islands.



I booked for 50 euros (vehicle, driver, and two passengers included on the official Torghatten Nord site) for Bognes-Lødingen—a one-hour crossing. I should’ve left from Bodø to Leknes or better yet Moskenes and the town of Å for three hours—it would’ve saved time by avoiding the drive north and crossing to the south before heading back up the islands. Luckily, we still managed two different routes. Fortunately, the great weather returned, and I have to say, IT’S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY... BEAUTIFUL... Memory cards are melting—not just from the heat.



Two things worked in our favor, if I may say so, and countered my little blunder: first, I’d booked the 2:30 PM ferry, but arriving at the departure at noon, we easily took the earlier one—two hours saved. With the longer crossings, rotations with only two boats are much less frequent (8 to 12 per day depending on the season, vs. 6 to 8 for the southern route). Second, after Mo i Rana, we crossed the Arctic Circle, and today, the sun only "sets" from 12:20 AM to 1:50 AM. What luck! With a 7:40 AM departure (after sleeping in), I could drive until 11:00 PM easy!!!!!! And cover only 740 km!!!!!! Here, winters don’t drop below zero, but from early November to late January, it’s night almost all the time, with a supposed daylight clarity from 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM like a rainy day back home. But apparently, the northern lights and reflections on the snow also provide light!! I’d love to see that, but I’ll have to come back... We crisscrossed everything humanly possible, sometimes stopping abruptly in the middle of the road for photos—much to the locals’ dismay, but they’re used to the madness of temporary invaders enchanted by the place... These steep mountains "falling" into the water with all those colorful "rorbu" villages are magnificent. Rorbu are traditional fishermen’s cabins on stilts by the water, which over time have become the must-stay accommodation here—many have never housed any fishermen!!! The villages follow one after another, each more beautiful than the last. In Nusfjord, in season, pedestrians are even charged an access fee between 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM. At 7:00 PM, the booth was closed—lucky us, no crowd. The ochre wooden facades are beautiful, but don’t get too close—the seagulls nest there and see any approach as aggression. The result? Bomb-like droppings that can leave unpleasant memories. Go peek inside the grocery store—it’s kept its old-world charm. With the season, the many cod drying racks are empty. The hour turned, and our southward journey stopped in Reine—too bad for Å, not far, but fatigue got the better of me. We had to "go back up" to Kabelvåg for our rorbu at Nyvågar. We’d stocked up on groceries to eat quietly in this cozy little place (very small single beds upstairs).

DAY 10. We headed back north on the islands to reach Tromsø (grandiosely nicknamed the "Paris of the North"), with a late 7:50 AM departure despite 450 km to cover—things are getting lax at the end of the trip!!! However, this stop didn’t reveal much of interest—it’s the lake region, but meh. Tour operators include it as the last stop toward the far north. Aside from the Målselvfossen waterfall and its (paid) salmon ladder, nothing to report. We arrived at 3:00 PM, and the second room in our Quality Saga Hotel wasn’t ready yet. Plus, the parking we’d requested wasn’t accessible—the eight spots were taken. Even in this small town, free and easy parking is rare. Two souvenir shops and a main street (Storgata)—that’s it. Not to mention a nice storm that cooled things down. The only curiosity is the church, but it’s closed and under renovation—the exterior scaffolding ruins the only photo opportunity here. Otherwise, the Arctic Cathedral is visible from afar—that’s enough for us. The sun only sets for 20 minutes, from 12:40 AM to 1:00 AM!!!!! Last note before leaving this country: every morning at the breakfast buffet with all those eggs, I asked for a Norwegian omelet. Believe it or not, they don’t know the recipe for a Norwegian omelet!!!! 😏😛😉

DAY 11. Heading to Finland (with an extra hour time difference) and Rovaniemi, self-proclaimed official Santa Claus Village—it’s not nice to play on kids’ heartstrings for money!!!! On the 400 km of road (that or avoiding the Lofoten), nothing to see except two sad "Sami" shops. But there’s also AND ESPECIALLY: The run-in with a police radar mounted on the dashboard to welcome me to this country: alone, on a straight, flat road in the middle of the forest, I had this privilege—especially at a spot limited to 80 km/h instead of 100 as I thought. Of course, most well-meaning readers will think: serves him right... Only here’s the thing: in Finland, for years, speeding fines depend on the "Päiväsakko," meaning based on your income and number of children, a subtle calculation of average daily money is made and multiplied proportionally to the estimated severity of the offense... Ignorant of this, I naively but honestly answered the questions. The result? The fine was enormous—I won’t say the amount out of shame, but especially out of hatred for this country that ruined my vacation. Others like me, potential murderers, have been fined up to 170,000 euros (I wrote ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND EUROS) for a 40 km/h speeding offense!!!! I hope the clowns running France quickly adopt this particularly SOCIAL measure. Let the lazy and parasites of the country freely enjoy the road in their BMWs and MERCs!!! Let me tell you, I’ll spend my savings elsewhere in the future. So, a tip: be as dishonest as these conscientious police—say you’re unemployed with five kids, and maybe they’ll give you money!!!!! I’m really disgusted. No wonder in this nothing-to-see town, drivers sheepishly drive in a "little train" at 40 behind an RV without anyone daring to overtake. I think sometimes human stupidity should have limits, and the word freedom should regain its meaning!!! To those who understand, cheers. And as written at the start: trolls, abstain. I stand by what I said and sign it. After this brutal introduction to Finnish discriminatory laws, you can imagine Rovaniemi and its two-bit Santa Claus—I couldn’t care less. Even under the storm, at 6:00 PM on Sunday, even in summer, the scammer shops and profiteers of the Santa Claus Village (conveniently located on the Arctic Circle...) were already closed. Good riddance!!! The Arctic City Hotel is fine. I struggled to swallow my Tex-Mex at Pancho Villa (local chain).

DAY 12. Toward Oulu via Tornio, 200 km, and again, nothing to see in this land of lakes and forests. Detour and only photo stop in Tervola for a wooden church—my vacation is officially ruined... The Cumulus City Hotel is fine in this pleasant but empty and dull city, though it’s a university and tech hub. To cheer myself up, we splurged on a supposedly Viking meal at Harald—don’t know if the recipes are authentic, but my "Viking" knowledge stops at Vik, the animated boobs... Anyway, it’s good, unusual, and hearty.

DAY 13. After struggling to fill the tank (no station open with cash payment, only cards), we returned the chariot at the airport. The offices weren’t open yet at this early hour (8:35 AM flight), so I left the key in a mailbox without any inspection—I didn’t like that at all. I thought we’d get a propeller plane, but it was a well-filled Airbus. One-hour flight to Helsinki, the capital. Impossible to get clear information on buses to the city center, 40 km away. So, for 37 euros, we took a taxi with a trunk big enough for our three suitcases and three "cabin" bags. I’m not counting the cost anymore. At 10:00 AM, we could finally check into our large triple room at the Cumulus City Hotel on Hakaniemi Square—again, despite the size, with a fold-out armchair bed. Off to visit our last city, with the obvious purchase—you guessed it—a 24-hour bus ticket with a 1.5-hour mini-cruise for 43 euros per person...



The boat tour showed that the standard of living seems high here too—summer homes (or not) on the islands are very beautiful. A small canal was even dug to save these lucky owners time on maritime transport. Apartments sell for a fortune. Back at Market Square, we grabbed a snack at the market—a reindeer kebab with dried reindeer, cheese, and a mini cracker—simple but delicious. No time to waste—ours is limited. Even if there’s not much to see tourist-wise. Four churches compete: the very busy and beautiful Helsinki Cathedral (better outside than in), its direct rival the Orthodox Uspenski Cathedral (same), the Rock Church (Temppeliaukio) and the Wooden Church (Kampin)—both as beautiful inside as out!!! Here too, very little car traffic, but tons of people—tourists or not—and joggers. In the evening, a bit tired, we headed to the off-center hotel to try the Scandinavian Hesburger chain. For connoisseurs and 29 euros, decent fries and burgers resembling Burger King’s—while the other American giant is left behind. Personal taste, I guess. The next day, we took the bus tour again, passing the Parliament and the controversial Sibelius Monument—a 24-ton pile of clanging iron pipes. Then, to kill time, we headed to Linnanmäki amusement park, on a hill overlooking the city. Rides are packed together, and a new one appears every year. Mostly family-oriented, but two or three thrill rides were packed. Despite my advancing age, I gave it a try—obviously regretted it afterward... Europe’s oldest wooden roller coaster (1950) shows the genius of its creators, with a brakeman at the back—worth the detour and passes the time. We ate (if you can call it that) on-site for 19 euros. Back "in town," classic shopping centers are numerous, but souvenir shops can be counted on one hand. No matter—we had to pack because tomorrow’s the return. We ate burgers again near the hotel and Hes... but served at the table for 67 euros. The next morning, to kill time before the 4:00 PM flight, we went to the port and its tourist market, where I splurged 15 euros on a cap to add to (or clutter) my already well-stocked collection. We finally learned that bus 615 goes to the airport, with a stop in front of our hotel where the luggage was left in storage after checking out. Still, count 40 minutes with this indirect route. Via an Air France flight operated by Finnair, after 3 hours, we returned to Roissy CDG—our vacation is truly over!!!!!!

CONCLUSION (if I may) Among the three capitals we visited, our unanimous ranking is: Oslo, Helsinki, and Stockholm—period. Despite a few imperfections in my itinerary, I’d say the Lofoten Islands are really worth it—two days on-site is a minimum. Finland, and not just because of the radars, is way below—nothing to see tourist-wise. I didn’t say nothing to do for those with time—nuance... Norwegian fjords, even if once you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all, are really beautiful, though this destination is quite expensive for us. Norway, thanks to its oil and gas, is very wealthy, near full employment, with an annual GDP per capita of 70,000 euros!!! A pack of cigarettes at 13 euros and beer at 10 euros doesn’t make this a dream destination for an addict like me. We were very lucky with the weather—only two and a half days of rain over 14, unlike many bloggers whose stories I read before leaving. The welcome wasn’t always what we expected. Despite the massive French presence, we’re not always as welcome as Asian conquerors, to whom the West, racing to its doom, continues to roll out the red carpet—literally! I don’t regret our choice—it’s worth seeing once, but only once. At least now we know what we’re talking about!!!!! Finally, as always, here’s the link to my public slideshow on YouTube. For the private one, some spicy scenes (especially with Santa and a troll) could cause me more problems—I’ve had enough!!! www.youtube.com/...zbIgZC6Pk&t=165s See you soon, maybe for new adventures and getaways. DJ93.
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Nelleaben 11 months ago · Chrissand
Arctic activities in Finland: choosing agencies
Hi everyone, we’re heading to Rovaniemi from December 6th to 10th with our 6-year-old and would love to do one reindeer ride and one husky safari. There are so many agencies that it’s hard to choose! Since we’ll have our own car, we’d prefer tours without big crowds—something authentic if possible. Thanks in advance for your recommendations!
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Mimi290305 last year · Chrissand
What clothes should we pack for a trip to Finnish Lapland in February?
Hello, We’re heading to Finnish Lapland near Rovaniemi as a family at the end of February with two kids (8 and 14 years old). We’ve got direct flights with Luxairstours. The itinerary is already set, but I’m wondering if anyone has traveled with Luxair before and knows exactly what kind of clothes they provide on the second day? The agency just told me it’s a heavy-duty cold-weather suit. I’m thinking we should get Sorel Caribou boots, maybe second-hand. Here’s what I’ve already planned: - Thermolactyl leggings and tights from Damart for the whole family as a base layer. - A first layer of Damart socks + Nordic Stocks socks in 70% merino wool for all four of us. - Loose fleece layers, including some Polartec. - Ski pants for hikes. - For my son and me, a The North Face Himalayan down parka with a hood. - A ski parka for my husband and my 14-year-old daughter (she *really* wants a Roxy one—I hope it’ll be warm enough). - For myself, for the flight and the first day at Santa’s village, I’ve packed The North Face winter hiking pants, a long-sleeve merino wool top from Decathlon (thin), a fleece, and my big parka.

I’m wondering if I should just pack fleece joggers or sweatpants for the kids and my husband, at least for the first and last days, to be comfortable on the plane? I’m also planning to buy balaclavas and neck warmers in addition to our beanies, as well as mittens for all of us. I really need advice because I have no idea—I’ve never been skiing! Also, for a 4-night, 5-day trip, should I pack a second set of base layers, like from Odlo?

Of course, I’ll be leaving cotton clothes out of the suitcase.

As you can tell, I’m someone who gets cold easily—especially my feet, hands, and ears—so that’s my biggest worry. I *don’t* want to be cold, even at -20°C during dog sledding, snowmobiling, or aurora hunting when we might be standing still. We won’t be in the city, and the kids will likely spend most of their time outside, as they usually do.

Thanks in advance for your tips!
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VoyageForum 2 years ago
Lapland: The magic of Christmas threatened by lack of snow
In Finnish Lapland, in Rovaniemi, the iconic Santa Claus Village is facing an unexpected challenge: a lack of snow, which is essential for the Christmas magic and the region's tourist appeal.

With record temperatures reaching up to 11.1°C in November and persistent rain, climate change is disrupting not only the landscapes but also the lives of reindeer and Arctic residents.

Despite this, tourists are flocking to meet Santa Claus and hoping to admire the northern lights, reflecting the global attachment to this unique destination, now weakened by climate change. Read more...
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Darkwright 2 years ago
Traveling with kids in Finnish Lapland in winter
Hi everyone,

We’re planning a week-long trip to Finnish Lapland in February 2026 with two kids aged 7 and 4.

I’ve spent quite a bit of time browsing websites and this forum, but I still have a few questions left.

We’ll be landing in Rovaniemi but won’t be staying there, so we’re planning to rent a car. Do you have any recommendations for rental companies? Is a Golf-sized car sufficient, or should we opt for something better suited to the conditions?

I found some nice accommodations near Akaslompolo. Is the area nice? Are there restaurants, shops, etc.? If it were just me, I’d go for total isolation, but I’m not alone 😎 If not, do you have any alternatives within a 2-hour radius of Rovaniemi? I’d also spotted Luosto.

We’re planning the classic activities: - Visiting a reindeer farm (but no sled ride); - A dog-sledding excursion; - Ice fishing; - A few evenings hunting for auroras using our car and a dedicated app; - A day in Rovaniemi for Santa Claus Village, the Arctic Museum, and the small Ranua Zoo; - An ice hockey game; - And maybe a day of skiing.

Do you have any recommendations for activity providers?

What kind of clothing layers do you recommend for the kids at this time of year?

Is the amethyst mine in Luosto worth it? I think the prices are over the top and can’t figure out why… Maybe there’s a good reason?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Best regards.
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Ambre67 2 years ago · Ticapi
15-Day Family Road Trip: Rovaniemi - Swedish Lapland - Lofoten
Hello,

I’m starting to plan our summer 2025 trip. We’ll be traveling as a family (2 adults and 2 teens), most likely in mid-July. Here’s a first draft of our itinerary. I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether this 15-day route is doable. We’ll be renting a car in Rovaniemi.

- Rovaniemi (2 nights) - Jokkmokk (1 night) - Kiruna (1 or 2 nights???) - Narvik (1 night) - Lofoten Islands (3 or 4 nights???) - Bodø (2 nights) - Return through Sweden, but where to stay between Bodø and Luleå to break up the drive????? (1 night) - Luleå (1 or 2 nights???) - Return to Rovaniemi (1 night)

What do you think of this route? I’m open to all suggestions—whether there are places to add, remove, or adjust. Thanks in advance for your help!
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16Nanou 6 years ago · Chrissand
Voyage en Laponie finlandaise en février 2021
Bonjour,

Je dois confirmer un voyage en Laponie fin février 2021 et je ne sais pas quoi faire.

Avez-vous des conseils à me donner. Nous partons à 7 avec enfants et petits enfants.

Merci
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Mika0721 6 years ago · Girardinpho
Pays du Nord en décembre en camping-car (Finlande-Suède-Norvège)
Bonjour à tous, J’ouvre cette discussion en espérant que certain pourront m’aider . A partir de mai 2021 , je pars faire un tour d’Europe d’environ 9 mois :) Mais faire l’itinéraire n’est pas simple .. il faut considérer plusieurs facteurs, et c’est la que j’ai besoin de votre aide :) Le problème est que ça nous fait arriver dans les pays du Nord ( Finlande suede norvege ) en décembre ( ou en novembre si on fait quelques changements) A la base c’est ce qu’on voulait pour fêter noël en Laponie . Mais on se rend compte que c’est peut être pas la meilleure idée avec un camping car à cause des températures ... que le ciel est pas très dégagé en décembre ( aurores boréals..) , et que la nuit dure toute la journée ... je veux absolument pas gâcher cette partie du voyage qui je pense est magnifique.

Certain d’entre vous ont ils été amené à y être à cette période également ? En camping car ? Que me conseiller vous

Merci beaucoup
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Benharper770 6 years ago · Krikri6792
La Laponie finlandaise en été
Je suis en Laponie avec mon van aménagé jusqu'à fin septembre. Aucun programme de prévu. Connaîtriez-vous des endroits à ne pas manquer, des endroits cachés (genre cascades, formations géologiques, ...). Les parcs nationaux offrent-ils des paysages variés ? Pour le moment, je suis dans la région de Rovaniemi pour un peu de bénévolat mais je vais monter vers le nord ensuite. Le nord semble être un peu plus vallonné même si il n'y a pas toute la diversité qu'on peut trouver en Norvège. J'espère bien me faire plaisir.

Merci d'avance.

Julien
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Chabcha 6 years ago · Benharper770
Activité safari-traineau à rennes en Finlande
Bonjour,

Cela fait deux e mails que j'adresse à posti@luostonporosafarit.fi pour faire une ballade en traineau tiré par des rennes à la ferme Jaakkola. D'après leur, site, la ferme serait située à 10kms de Luosto.Le guide s'appelle Vera. Aucune réponse à ce jour. Si vous aviez fait cette activité à cet endroit, vos informations me seraient très utiles. J'avais contacté l'office de tourisme de Sodankyla qui ne connaît pas cette ferme. Apparemment, il n'y a pas d'office de tourisme à Luosto. Merci; Chabcha
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Yelena81 6 years ago
Chalets Ounasvaara Lakituvat à Rovaniemi (Finlande)
Bonjour,

J'envisage dans le futur un séjour en laponie en avril (car c'est moins cher qu'en février) avec mon mari et mes 3 enfants. Je ne souhaite pas recourir à une agence pour créer mon séjour et nous ne pensons pas louer de voiture. Je souhaite séjourner dans un des chalets ounasvaara lakituvat car ils ont l'air très chouettes (s'il y en a d'autres aussi bien et moins chers, je suis preneuse). Les chalets proposent directement des sorties (donc agence). Je voulais savoir si partant de ces chalets à pied, il était possible de faire des randonnées en raquette, sans avoir recours à un guide (donc sans agence). Et s'il y avait des transports en communs menant aux diverses activités classiques (chien de traîneau, ferme de rennes, ...). Le tout évidemment par souci d'éconiomie.... Je vous remercie de m'éclairer.
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Purepoison 6 years ago · Mick53
Aurores boréales en Laponie finlandaise
Bonjour, Je voudrais partir en Laponie finlandaise soit fin décembre, soit fin février, près de Rovaniemi. J’aimerai savoir si nous avons beaucoup de chances de voir des aurores Boreales dans cette région, et si il y en a en général plus fin décembre ou fin février ? Merci pour vos réponses.
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Huacha 6 years ago · Derene
Partir de Paris pour la Finlande en voiture
bonjour

pouvez vous m'aider pour le trajet le plus facile avec ferry

j'ai pensé quand meme à l aller ou retour

passer par la suede .....ou non

et le danemark

Nous partons 3 semaines environ

hebergement en hotel budjet 100eus par nuit environ avec petit dej

2 seniors avec voiture

merci

à bientot

huacha
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Lenylise 6 years ago · Mick53
Location vêtements grand froid à Rovaniemi (Finlande)
bonjour a tous !!!! je prepare (déjà) ma valise pour mon sejour a Rovaniemi en famille . j'ai farfouillé un peu partout dans le forum mais pas de reponse a ma question :-( je sais qu il est possible de louer les vêtements grand froid a Rovaniemi mais je n arrive pas a savoir quel serait le prix approximatif de la location . j'ai tout ce qu'il faut mais je prefere partir legere si cela ne me coute pas trop cher ;-) si quelqu'un a cette reponse ???? merci mille fois
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Isaclau 6 years ago · Elgar
Circuit de 20 jours au départ d'Helsinki jusqu'en Laponie en septembre
Bonjour à tous,

J'ai beaucoup de mal à préparer un circuit de 20 jours au départ d’Helsinki jusqu'en Laponie (nous partirions le 1er septembre à condition de le pouvoir bien sûr ^^)

Il n'y a pas énormément de carnets de voyage et lorsque j'en trouve, les destinations ne sont jamais les mêmes et je suis donc un peu perdue pour organiser l'itinéraire.

Nous sommes déjà aller à Kittila passer le réveillon en 2016 : ce fut un coup de coeur ! et nous avons décider d'explorer ce pays l'automne étant amoureux bien évidemment de la nature et des animaux. L'idée de dormir dans un chalet au bord d'un lac serait tout simplement magique !

et peut on bivouaquer éventuellement quelques fois ?

Nous lourions donc une voiture à Helsinki (en y restant 2 jours).

Pourriez vous m'aider et me donner les incontournables des parcs ou lacs à ne pas manquer sur la route jusqua'u nord .. nous resterions 2 jours à chaque étape à peu près.

Nous avons pensé à la location d'un camping car mais nous ne pourrions alors faire l’expérience de loger dans chalet ..

Je vous remercie de votre aide !

Bonne journée

Isabelle
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Zag07 6 years ago · Glamys24
Ferry Tallinn-Helsinki
Bonjour, Je devrais faire la traversée courant Août de cette année en CC , mais je n'ai pas de date arrêtée. Combien de temps avant faut-il réserver ? Ou alors peut -on prendre le billet sur place ? Si on prend le billet sur place y a t'il un écart significatif de tarif ? Voilà, si quelqu'un a des infos récentes sur le sujet cela m'aiderai bien pour la prépa de notre voyage. Mci.
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Berengiermar 6 years ago · Communod
Périple à vélo Malmö (Suède) - Turku - Helsinki - Saint-Pétersbourg
Bonjour, Je prépare un périple qui doit me conduire de Paris à Saint Petersbourg en Mai/Juin prochain. J'aimerais obtenir des informations sur : l'intérêt et la qualité de la route cotière de Malmö à Stockholm, puis de l'étape finlandaise de Turku/Helsinki à la frontière Finlando Russe, et enfin des quelques kilometres en Russie. Merci d'avance. Marc
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Daniel133 6 years ago
Voyager en camping-car l'hiver en Scandinavie
Bonjour, Nous voudrions changer notre Van contre un Hymer MLT 580 4X4 ou un intégral Rapido M96. Nous aimons les pays du Nord, en été et en hiver. Le problème c'est que nous voudrions de l'espace pour passer quelques mois à l'intérieur et faire certains pays en hiver qui sont parfois isolés. J'aimerais avoir des retours de certains qui auraient pu avoir des expériences similaires. merci et bon voyage. Daniel
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Bluestorm 6 years ago · Barneyg
Partir de Paris pour Saint-Pétersbourg par les Pays baltes et retour par l'Ukraine
Bonjour,

Nous souhaiterions partir en ce futur mois de juillet (si tout va bien) et de préparer ce voyage va m'aider a supporter le confinement.

Le but est de partir en avion pour un des pays baltes, de les faire tous les trois (LITUANIE, LETTONIE, ESTONIE) et ensuite prendre le ferry à TALLINN pour HELSINKI et rejoindre le train pour ST PETERSBOURG pour arriver à la gare de Finlande ....

Des conseils, des suggestions, afin de ne rien laisser au hasard.

Et au retour peut-être revenir par MOSCOU et KIEV ou bien MINSK et VARSOVIE ....

Merci de vos commentaires bienveillants ... et prenez soin de vous.... pour que nous puissions repartir sur les routes en nouvelle conscience.
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SoiréesTrek 6 years ago
Soirée Trek à Paris mercredi 19 février 2020: Finlande, promenade en Laponie


La prochaine Soirée Trek à Paris aura lieu le mercredi 19 février 2020. Adrienne nous présentera son parcours dans la Laponie finlandaise. Les inscriptions pour cette soirée sont ouvertes. Venez nombreux 🙂

Les rencontres Les Soirées Trek sont un rendez-vous pour se retrouver entre marcheurs et futur-marcheurs autour d'un verre, d'un repas. Randonneurs, trekkeurs, mule ou mulet, que ce soit en solo, en groupe ou par agence, tous les marcheurs sont les bienvenus pour venir partager leurs expériences, découvrir de nouvelles destinations, échanger des informations, trouver des équipiers... Ou tout simplement passer une bonne soirée.

Ce rendez-vous mensuel, animé par des amoureux de la marche, vous est proposé gratuitement.

Rendez-vous aux inscrits à partir de 19h30 au sous-sol du restaurant : Earth'K Bar 5 Rue Daunou 75002 Paris

A bientôt, les Soirées Trek www.lessoireestrek.org
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Chabcha 6 years ago
Location de voiture à l'aéroport de Kittyla en Finlande
Bonjour,

Mon fils a réservé une voiture à l'aéroport de Kittyla. Son permis date de 1977 ( pas de date de validité indiquée). J'ai consulté le site service-Public.fr permis de conduire et les licences délivréesavant 2013 sont valables jusqu'au 19 janvier 2033. Avez-vous été dans ce cas lorsque vous avez réservé une voiture en Finlande? Nous avons réservé chez Hertz; je pense que l'agence locale doit être au courant. Merci. Chabcha
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MaitreGijom 6 years ago · Tve64
Voyage à vélo de Oulu jusqu'à Helsinki en Finlande
Bonjour à tous !

Je planifie avec mes amis un voyage en Finlande cet été. Notre objectif est de faire un périple à vélo de Oulu jusqu'à Helsinki. Nous nous posons plusieurs questions à ce sujet : Est ce que ce voyage semble faisable compte tenu des routes / hébergements / difficulté... ? Y a t-il un chemin à privilégier plutôt qu'un autre ? De préférence nous préférons éviter les côtes. Est il possible de louer des bons vélos à Oulu et les rendre à Helsinki ? Quel est le budget à prévoir ?

N'hésitez pas si vous avez des recommandations à me faire sur ce projet :)

Merci ! Guillaume
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MirandaMouse 6 years ago · Angkhor
Retour en Russie pour un mois (Moscou, Saint-Pétersbourg, Rostov-le-Grand) et Tallinn - Helsinki
Me voilà revenue d’un voyage d’un mois pile. 24 jours en Russie et une semaine entre Tallinn et Helsinki. Des pays somme toute plutôt différents !

La visite de Tallinn et d’Helsinki n’était pas au programme j’ai donc découvert ces villes dans un contexte un peu particulier ! En effet, comme une idiote je me suis trompée dans la date de mon vol retour ! Les billets retour-simple Air France étant hors de prix (290 € chacun!), nous avons décidé de reprendre un vol nettement moins onéreux depuis Helsinki avec la compagnie Norwegian (70 € !) ; et d’en profiter pour découvrir également Tallinn.

Plutôt que de mettre l’argent dans un simple vol retour, on pouvait visiter deux villes pour à peine plus cher au global, autant en profiter ! Puis rester à Tallinn revenait bien moins cher qu’à Helsinki…

Bien sûr je raconterai tout ça en détail !

Pour en rajouter une couche avec mes boulettes, le jour du retour mon liquide démaquillant s’est renversé dans ma valise cabine (c’est çà d’être coquette, oups!) signant ainsi l’arrêt de mort de mon ordi… Heureusement j'ai pu m'en procurer un autre, je vais donc pouvoir rédiger tranquillement ce carnet 😛

Ce premier post concernera plutôt mes impressions et quelques aspects pratiques et un résumé de ce que nous avons vu. Le reste viendra après...

En attendant, vous pouvez déjà consulter mes précédents articles sur la Russie, sur mon blog, ou bien mon premier carnet de voyage.

www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/voyage-russie/

voyageforum.com/...ost=8256849;#8256849

Pour ceux intéressés uniquement par Tallinn et Helsinki, ça commence là : voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9243964;a=9243964

AVANT LE DÉPART Ceci étant un second séjour en Russie, à plus ou moins un an d’intervalle de date à date (ce qui m’a valu de confondre justement) nous étions rôdés :- un AR Air France à 213€ chacun pour un tarif sans bagage en soute, soit moins cher que l’an dernier (305), tant mieux !- un voucher obtenu via Russie Autrement (gratuit pour les blogueurs).- attestation d’assurance via nos cartes bancaires, demandées en ligne. - le tout déposé chez Action Visas à Paris.

Je ne vais pas entrer dans les détails j’explique toute la procédure sur mon blog :

www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/...isa-tourisme-...

LE PARCOURS Estimant ne pas avoir vu tout ce qui nous intéressait à Moscou et Saint-Pétersbourg, nous y avons repassé respectivement 9 et 11 jours (on aime prendre notre temps…), mais étant désireux de découvrir autre chose nous avons passé deux jours à Rostov-le-Grand.Le séjour s’est découpé ainsi :

- Arrivée à Saint-Pétersbourg, 3 jours pleins, puis départ pour Moscou en train rapide Sapsan (4h). 2 jours pleins à Moscou puis 2 jours et demi à Rostov (deux nuits), AR Moscou-Rostov en train express (2h30) .

De nouveau une semaine pleine à Moscou, trajet en Sapsan puis 8 jours à Saint-Pétersbourg, dont une journée en plus du coup… (qui compte pour moitié)

En supplément : train Allegro pour Helsinki et bateau pour Tallinn dans la foulée. 3 jours pleins à Tallinn, bateau pour Helsinki et deux nuits dans la capitale finlandaise (un jour et demi sur place)

HÉBERGEMENTS Comme souvent nous sommes passés par le site Airbnb et n’avons pas été déçus.

- Joli et assez grand deux pièces à Saint-Pétersbourg pour 24€/nuit, au calme sur cour, tout équipé et avec une hôte très sympathique, arrangeante et aidante. Une de mes meilleures expériences à ce jour… situé rue Rubinstein, rue animée avec des bars et des restos, juste après la Fontanka et à deux pas de Nevski donc plutôt pratique, et à deux pas du métro. - T1 «soviétique» à Moscou, un peu resté dans son jus mais confortable, au calme et très bien placé, à côté du métro Paveletskaya sur les lignes 2 et 5 (lignes très pratiques) à 2 km au sud du Kremlin et 1 km de la galerie Tretiakov. 35€/nuit pour les 3 premières nuits puis 25 quand nous y sommes retournés pour une semaine. Hôte arrangeant, pendant notre escapade de deux nuits à Rostov nous avons pu laisser un bagage, et avons pu partir à 15h30 le jour du départ.

- Petit hôtel (Lion hotel) à Rostov, 20€/nuit pour une chambre double correcte et refaite à neuf avec salle d’eau, en plein centre face au Kremlin, petit déjeuner inclus. Bon cela confirme que je préfère louer des apparts mais bon rapport qualité/prix.

- Première nuit réservée à l’arrache à Tallinn dans un hôtel pas cher près du port et pas trop loin de la vieille ville. Pas trop eu le choix… 36€/nuit pour une petite chambre avec deux lits simples et une salle d’eau, mais surtout un petit dej avec buffet à volonté donc ça c’était sympa ! Nous sommes de toute façon arrivés à 1h du mat donc peu nous importait.

- 3 nuits dans un petit studio sympa à 15 mn à pied de la vieille ville pour 33€/nuit je crois. Bon accueil et bon plan de notre hôte d’origine italienne, juste un bémol sur le bruit de la route et les rideaux quasi inutiles. Réservation à l’arrache la veille donc bon…

- Joli petit deux pièces à Helsinki, sur cour, bien placé à deux pas du bord de mer et 10 mn du centre. Hôte très sympa. 116€ pour deux nuits tout compris (frais Airbnb et frais de ménage), le meilleur rapport qualité/prix quand on a cherché et bon prix pour Helsinki où les hébergements sont chers.

TRANSPORTS SUR PLACE - Environ 40€ de Sapsan chacun pour un AR entre Saint-Pétersbourg et Moscou, en classe éco.

- 20€ par personne pour l’AR en train express Moscou-Rostov. Tout fut acheté sur le site officiel des chemins de fer russes environ un mois avant le départ.

- 70€ chacun pour le trajet simple en train Allegro entre Saint-Pétersbourg et Helsinki, mais les billets furent achetés la veille donc forcément plus chers… Ce fut une expérience intéressante et nous comptions la vivre un jour de toute façon ! Contrôle des passeports à bord !

Article détaillé sur le train Allegro ici :

https://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/train-allegro-helsinki-a-saint-petersbourg-prix-conseils-photos/

- 70€ chacun pour l’AR en bateau entre Helsinki et Tallinn avec la compagnie Tallink. Traversée en ferry agréable. Billets achetés la veille mais les prix n’ont pas l’air de trop bouger, par contre c’est plus cher le week-end, nous avons pu éviter.

- Pour la fin, 70€ chacun de billets Norwegian Helsinki-Paris, achetés une semaine avant.

BUDGET SUR PLACE Nous avons dépensé environ 1400€ sur place pendant ce mois de vadrouille. Ceci inclut surtout les repas, quasi tous pris à l'extérieur (sauf les déjeuners à Moscou et Helsinki), les transports locaux (métro tous les jours à Moscou, quelques fois le bus à Saint-Pétersbourg) et bien sûr les visites, surtout des musées et des palais. Honnêtement, pas de folies ! Plus quelques bricoles à ramener, des petites choses pas très chères (un sac en toile, un calendrier, des magnets, une boite faussement laquée...)

Globalement nous avons profité du rouble assez faible, avec un taux moyen de 78 roubles pour 1€, contre 68 l'an dernier, donc une petite augmentation du pouvoir d'achat.

NOURRITURE Le plus gros du budget donc ! Nous avons alterné avec quelques cafétérias vraiment pas chères à Saint-Pétersbourg (il y en a partout), la chaine très typique de crêpes Teremok (ils font aussi les soupes, salades et pelmenis) surtout pour le déjeuner, et quelques restos moyen de gamme certains soirs. Surtout des restaurants géorgiens, une des cuisine préférée des Russes ! A Moscou et Saint-Pétersbourg nous avons diné pour environ 20-25€ à deux.

A Rostov ce fut différent, nous avons enfin trouvé des restaurants de cuisine russe et les écarts de prix avec les deux "capitales" sont flagrants ! A titre d'exemple nous avons fait un très bon repas avec deux plats parmi les plus chers, deux boissons, un gros desserts à partager, pour... 8€ à deux ! Le retour à Moscou fut douloureux, hum. Il semble un peu compliqué de trouver des restos de cuisine russe dans les deux principales villes, qui ne soient pas à destination des touristes, hélas.

A Tallinn nous avons été étonnés de voir des prix très proches de ceux de la France (pas le cas du salaire moyen...) voire proches de ceux de Paris dans la vieille ville ! Nous avons tout de même réussi à trouver des bons plans, donc au final pas trop de dépenses (cantine de centre commercial à 5€ le plat, crêpes géantes dans le centre, burgers, nouilles chinoises à 5€)

Évidemment ce fut un peu moins facile à Helsinki mais on s'est débrouillé (buffet à volonté boissons incluses pour 13€ chacun, pizzas 10-12€ le dernier soir)

RÉSUMÉ DES VISITES Ne s’agissant pas d’un premier séjour nous avons pu approfondir nos connaissances des deux villes, donc peu d’ « incontournables » cette fois, du moins à Moscou. Nous nous sommes de nouveau baladés à Saint-Pétersbourg, au soleil (nous n’avions pas vu toute la ville au soleil l’année précédente) et avons complété avec les musées et palais. Séjour très « culturel » donc, alors qu’à Moscou nous avons privilégié les parcs et les monastères (entre autres).

En gros à Saint-Pétersbourg nous avons vu les palais Youssoupov (le plus beau de la ville selon nous), Menchikov (le plus ancien), Stroganov, le palais de marbre et le château des Ingénieurs.

En musées nous avons de nouveau arpenté l'Ermitage ainsi que le bâtiment de l'Etat major en face, où se trouvent les toiles impressionnistes et "avant-gardistes" (Picasso, Gauguin, Matisse...) et avons complété avec le musée Russe, grand musée de peinture, sculpture, et artisanat russe, et avons découvert l'étonnante Kunstkamera, "cabinet des curiosités" de Pierre le Grand.



A Moscou, nous avons donc été voir:

- Le domaine de Kolomenskoye, listé au patrimoine mondial de l'UNESCO et son étonnant palais de bois reconstruit (lieu de naissance de Pierre le Grand) avec ses églises anciennes et bâtiments en bois

- Le domaine royal de Tsaristyno et son palais

- Le parc Gorki, plus central (une partie)

- L'esplanade du VDNKh (prononcé VDNra) et ses pavillons dédiés aux anciennes républiques soviétiques

- Le Kremlin d'Izmaïlovo et son marché de souvenirs, étrange endroit entre Las Vegas/Disney et un marché aux puces, adapté de l'architecture traditionnelle russe; un brin kitsch mais lieu de sortie des Moscovites, à voir selon moi !

- Les deux galeries Tretiakov, deux musées à voir à Moscou quand on aime l'art !

- Les monastères Donskoï et Novospasky, véritables havres de paix.

- De nouvelles balades dans le centre, le vieil Arbat, autour de la galerie Tretiakov...

- Et bien sûr, de nouvelles visites des stations de métro, on est fan !



A Rostov nous avons bien sûr visité le très beau Kremlin, principal attraction, ainsi qu'un autre monastère au bord du lac, nous sommes baladés le long du lac et dans différents endroits de la ville, puis avons passé pas mal de temps à tester les spécialités locales 😛 😇



A Tallinn, balades dans la ville close et sa colline, le parc de Kadriorg et ses alentours, le musée d'art estonien KUMU, le bord de mer.



A Helsinki, tour du centre, du port, place du Sénat, balade Art nouveau, bord de mer (en même temps ce fut rapide...)



IMPRESSIONS GLOBALES Bien sur dur de donner une seule impression pour un voyage d'un mois et autant de villes différentes !

Connaissant déjà Moscou et Saint-Pétersbourg pas de grosses surprises, mais alors que l'an dernier j'avais été plutôt mitigée sur Moscou, j'ai beaucoup mieux apprécié mon séjour cette fois-ci ! J'ai mieux aimé ce que j'ai vu, puis nous avons volontairement choisi de privilégier les endroits au calme et au vert, plus supportables que les horribles autoroutes urbaines qui composent la ville.On s'est senti bien dans notre petit appart soviétique, on n'avait pas envie de partir 😛 Toujours le même bémol que l'an dernier : les jolis coins du centre font un peu "Disney" pour nouveaux riches, et l'omniprésence de chaînes de restauration ou salons de thé finit par agacer tant il ne semble y avoir de place pour rien d'autre...

Pour Saint-Pétersbourg, même avis, une très belle ville, pour moi une des plus belles d'Europe, mais au bout d'un moment, envie de m'en évader car TROP TROP polluée... des voitures partout, deux pauvres petites rues piétonnes (oui j'aime les rues piétonnes et je n'aime pas les voitures dans les centres-villes...) mais surtout qui FONCENT et qui PUENT. Essence mal raffinée, normes différentes des nôtres donc les bronches souffrent. On a vu des camionnettes laisser une bonne trainée noire derrière elles 🤪 Mon manteau blanc est vite devenu tout gris (oui je sais c'est idiot d'avoir un manteau blanc en voyage) Je sais que c'est comme ça dans beaucoup de pays, mais je ne connais que l'Europe (et Marrakech) alors au bout d'un moment j'avais juste hâte de me mettre au vert ! Car justement, contrairement à Moscou on ne peut pas dire que ça grouille sous les grands parcs... Oui je parais sévère mais à part ça pas de défauts 😛

Puis la ville est plus "sympa" que Moscou car plus de petits restos, bars, plus d'endroits où aller pour les petits budgets, etc

Nous avons apprécié notre petite escapade à Rostov, LA découverte du séjour ! Petite ville typique russe, très différentes des deux capitales, un peu décrépite, tranquille, on voit la différence de niveau de vie aussi...

Pour la dernière partie du séjour, petite déception pour Tallinn, non pas pour son aspect esthétique mais plutôt pour son aspect trop touristique (et nous étions toute fin septembre), la très jolie vieille ville nous a fait l'effet d'un Disney à touristes... en revanche nous avons bien aimé le KUMU. Bon 3 jours c'est pas énorme, et nous n'y étions pas dans les bonnes circonstances (stressés, fatigués, et... frigorifiés !) En revanche très contents de voir un centre historique piéton ! Après Saint-Pétersbourg ça faisait du bien justement !

Pour finir, on n'attendait pas grand-chose d'Helsinki, au final elle nous a bien plu. Là encore, le calme, les rues piétonnes ou peu fréquentées par les voitures, la verdure, furent les bienvenus ! Cela nous a paru plus authentique que Tallinn et on a trouvé l'accueil BEAUCOUP plus sympathique que dans cette dernière. Car oui à Tallinn ce fut un autre point négatif (pas partout ouf).

Et pour finir sur l’accueil en Russie, nous n'avons pas à nous plaindre à part pour quelques gardiennes de musées, de véritables caricatures 😏

Voilà pour le petit topo avant-carnet, n'hésitez pas si vous avez déjà des questions 😉

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