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 | | | | | Vacation Dolma · 7 July 2025 à 11:09 · 2 photos 60 messages · 12 participants · 1 761 affichages | | | | À: Jojoone1 · 14 July 2025 à 13:05 Re: Vacation Message 21 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 563 affichages · Partager Things really need to change by putting all these folks back to work! We’ve got to pay for our pensions (well-earned at 55, mind you) after all  We’re counting on our government | | | À: Dolma · 14 July 2025 à 14:02 Re: Vacation Message 22 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 545 affichages · Partager Hi there, if you're going on vacation, enjoy it to the fullest because things might get rocky when you return. Today, the CAC 40 is in the red, and if you're a manager in a company, you might even be called back to the office in August. All because of the unpredictability of the person leading the USA. Seeing that their measures aren't working, it wouldn't surprise me if they pull another Trafalgar on us. | | | À: Kate · 14 July 2025 à 18:45 Re: Vacation Message 23 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 518 affichages · Partager I did a little research, and if what I read is correct, in the United States, only 15 days of vacation per year are granted at the employer’s discretion! In most Asian countries, it’s 5 to 10 days per year depending on seniority. More fortunate, Austrians get 38 days. At the top of the podium for public holidays: Colombia with its 18 days.
I once read that it was one week at the start of a career, two weeks later, and if all went well, three weeks by the end of a career. At least for those who could have a linear path in the same company. | | | À: Jojoone1 · 14 July 2025 à 18:54 Re: Vacation Message 24 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 515 affichages · Partager That's what some Americans told me.
More seniority, more vacation days!
We could adapt this for France.
Retirement at 65, but one extra week of vacation per year starting at 60 (funded by the state, not the employer, based on a minimum wage, for example)!
60: 6 weeks 61: 7 weeks 62: 8 weeks 63: 9 weeks 64: 10 weeks 65: time to retire... | | | À: Dolma · 14 July 2025 à 21:52 Re: Vacation Message 25 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 495 affichages · Partager And here’s the provisional lineup for the shadow government:
Dolma is appointed Minister of Culture Attila is appointed Minister of Holidays, in charge of Labor Mathews is appointed Minister of the Economy and Phynances JojoOne is appointed Secretary of State in charge of Remigrations Djalma is appointed Undersecretary of State for Soft Mobilities, in charge of Vacuity | | | À: Voyajou · 15 July 2025 à 7:24 Re: Vacation Message 26 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 451 affichages · Partager And of course Voyajou in First Class Disaster. | | | À: Voyajou · 15 July 2025 à 13:48 Re: Vacation Message 27 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 422 affichages · Partager Dolma is named Minister of Culture Attila is named Minister of Vacations, in charge of Labor Mathews is named Minister of the Economy and Phynances JojoOne is named Secretary of State in charge of Remigrations Djalma is named Undersecretary of State for Soft Mobilities, in charge of vacuity
Still that irresistible need to display your superiority? To feel above the fray, pulling the strings and handing out the good and bad points? 
Djalma is named Undersecretary of State for Soft Mobilities, in charge of vacuity
It's funny, but this role you so easily assign me—I can just picture you already having done it as a petty bureaucrat behind a desk somewhere in South Africa or in a Parisian closet | | | À: Voyajou · 15 July 2025 à 13:52 Re: Vacation Message 28 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 416 affichages · Partager Wasn’t that the Ministry of Free Time?  So, I’m taking over from Edwige Avice.
I don’t know if I can handle work *and* everything else in just 35 hours a week... I’m a realist, me! | | | À: Attila · 15 July 2025 à 16:31 Re: Vacation Message 29 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 387 affichages · Partager Wasn’t it the Ministry of Leisure Time? 
Yes, the Ministry of Leisure Time actually existed. But now it’s become the primary ministry since civil servants do all the work in its place. All that’s left is to delegate.... | | | À: Voyajou · 15 July 2025 à 16:32 Re: Vacation Message 30 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 386 affichages · Partager Mathews is appointed Minister of the Economy and Finances
I’d have preferred the Ministry of Culture so I could hang out with artists, especially at Hellfest or Printemps de Bourges... | | | À: Mathews · 15 July 2025 à 17:54 Re: Vacation Message 31 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 374 affichages · Partager Civil servants do all the work for him.
I don’t understand the meaning of this sentence? | | | À: Mathews · 15 July 2025 à 18:27 Re: Vacation Message 32 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 364 affichages · Partager now it’s become the top ministry since civil servants are doing all the work for him.
But isn’t he currently, right now, sweating it out and working hard? | | | À: Attila · 15 July 2025 à 18:30 Re: Vacation Message 33 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 361 affichages · Partager I don’t understand the meaning of this sentence?
What I meant was that politicians are mainly there to do PR, so all the actual work is delegated (which is what I wrote) to the administrative services. | | | À: Kola · 15 July 2025 à 18:30 Re: Vacation Message 34 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 358 affichages · Partager But isn't he currently, right now, sweating it out?
yes, most definitely  If he wants to save money, retirees might take a hit. So that’ll mean fewer trips to Thailand, Portugal | | | À: Mathews · 15 July 2025 à 18:53 Re: Vacation Message 35 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 348 affichages · Partager I don’t think a small non-indexation will make much of a difference. At most, they’ll dip into their full savings accounts and other life insurance policies. Nothing new—it’s always us who end up paying for other people’s mistakes; our spot in travelers’ paradise is already secured. | | | À: Mathews · 15 July 2025 à 19:24 Re: Vacation Message 36 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 340 affichages · Partager all the work is delegated (that's what I wrote, after all) to administrative services
To ministry employees who aren't necessarily civil servants and even less so "small hands."
The result wouldn't be such bureaucratic nightmares otherwise. | | | À: Dolma · 16 July 2025 à 9:40 Re: Vacation Message 37 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 300 affichages · Partager @ everyone
Four words that intertwine and two pages of replies  ! Wow, that’s something else 
Comments on politics, retirement, work, and vacation (seems like ecology is missing) are bickering and applauding, questioning and congratulating each other. I think we’ve just formed a new National Assembly that, of course, looks just like the previous ones—because, as we all know, nothing ever really changes.
I’m really enjoying reading you all 
Just one thing that strikes me: I wonder how it’s possible to choose a job (with little interest?) just to get the vacations. A passionate job is still a huge advantage when you calculate how many years we spend working! | | | À: Dolma · 16 July 2025 à 10:09 Re: Vacation Message 38 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 291 affichages · Partager Unless you're really passionate, even a job you love can't withstand the wear of time. Everything becomes routine so quickly.
Many who chose a boring job probably don’t have an exciting private life either. My job didn’t often excite me, but once I was out, I enjoyed the pleasures and freedom it afforded me even more. I think some people deliberately choose a well-paid but less interesting job over one they’d enjoy but that pays less.
You could even write a poem about those first moments of vacation—a gulp of pure happiness. A blank page, broken chains, a vast horizon filled with dreams and discoveries, a long-lost energy returning as if by magic, a life coming back to life. | | | À: Dolma · 16 July 2025 à 11:25 Re: Vacation Message 39 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 275 affichages · Partager hi there,
4 words that intertwine and 2 pages of replies  ! Wow, that’s too much 
Not that off-topic... isn’t *otium*—briefly, free time—a contradiction of work? Etymologically, and everyone knows this, *travail* means torture. But boredom can also be mental torture  It’s certain that when traveling, you eventually get really bored, whether on vacation or in retirement. Patong Beach or Miami Beach or Ibiza—it’s almost deadly dull... No retirement reform on the horizon since retirees are happy being retired and living by the sea, QED. But that’s another topic, already discussed on this forum, I think, ha ha. | | | À: Jojoone1 · 16 July 2025 à 11:30 Re: Vacation Message 40 de 60 · Page 2 de 3 · 272 affichages · Partager Unless you're really passionate, even a dream job won't stand the test of time. Everything becomes routine so quickly.
It's true that if you want to reach the holy grail at work, it's tough. But I feel like saying "Get out of here, Sisyphus!" You should consider a craft job like watchmaking, for example. The Swiss do it that way. | Trouvez des offres de séjours uniques avec nos partenaires All rights reserved © 2026 MyAtlas Group | 4 845 visiteurs en ligne depuis une heure! | |  |
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